Will they be removed or not?

Based on the following interchanges I have some questions that I seemingly can't answer myself. Therefore, I need the community to help me to point me in the right direction.

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Hey,

I've had reliable intel come to me that says that utopia management has decided to remove Ronins from the charts at EoA. As a fellow competitor I'd like to know if that is true, and if so, why only a small part of the community was informed of this (those close to the game owners). Some competitors having this information while other don't might severely affect the progression of the age. If you do find them guilty of cheating, please inform us and freeze/delete their kingdom until EOA. If not, please confirm that as well so everyone can continue as planned.

Greetings,
Bart.

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I’m sorry I don’t understand your email to support; are you reporting a bug or problem with the game?

Regards,
UtopiaSupport

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Hey UtopiaSupport,

Let me write it down more schematically, so you understand what I mean.
1. Last age a precedent was set as to how the devs will be dealing with "dodgy" behavior or cheating --> removal from charts.
2. This age the Kingdom of Ronins have had some wars that in the eyes of some of the community were "dodgy".
3. Word has reached my ear that Ronins therefore will be removed from the EOA charts (reliable source).

Based on the above 3 statements I'd like to know whether this is the case or not. Because if information is spread selectively this will lead to an unfair playing board (Sleepy for instance could use this knowledge to be content with finishing #2 behind Ronins etc.).

So in summary:

Will Ronins be removed from the charts or not?
If yes, why was this information shared selectively and not with the entire community through the official channels?

Greetings,
Bart.

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Hi,

We don't share info on admin actions.

Regards,
Bishop

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The entire following conversation is unsubstantiated.
Whoever "Rororororo" might be (if they exist at all) is fabricating all information related to knowing anything about Administration actions and decisions.
I won't speculate what motives this person may have had for making these statements, but for future reference for all of the community to know if anyone ever says something like this to you you can safely know that they are lying to you. I mention in the last post of this thread that Game Administration will never release information of this nature to anyone, ever; period.
-DavidC

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[5:44 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: yeh
[5:44 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: and even if u win
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: u might not get over us
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): ronin will
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): if they beat us
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: cause if u war for 4-5 days I get extra land
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: with a 50-60k land advantage ...
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): and they really gotta make erorrs if they wanna lose
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: doubt u will get to it
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: yeh ... is fine
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: they will be removed from the charts
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: I know it 100%
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: so I do not care about them
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): 100%?
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: yes
[5:45 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: I spoke with whom I had to
[5:46 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): what reason?
[5:46 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: when people were discussing to **** em up
[5:46 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: and stoped them
[5:46 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): the TBB war?
[5:46 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: yes
[5:46 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: and tbb farming now
[5:46 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: i told someone about it
[5:46 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: and said ... we will remove them from chart don;t bother
[5:47 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): its great you have such contacts
[5:47 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): I wish the mods were as openhearted to all
[5:47 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): you know this is BS
[5:53 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: I didn't speak with owners directly
[5:53 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: I don;t have contact with them
[5:54 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): ok
[5:54 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): so who?
[5:54 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): and how they got this knowledge?
[5:54 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): you see this is what ****s the game
[5:54 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: I asked someone else if it's reasonable to farm your buttfriends all age and he said it's already discussed
[5:54 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): the close circle around the owners
[5:54 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): get more info
[5:54 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): than the rest
[5:54 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: info around whom gets banned?
[5:54 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: i agree
[5:55 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: this is not cool
[5:55 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): all should be made public
[5:55 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): and if devs feel irs cjeating
[5:55 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): remove the Kds
[5:55 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: I believe it already been
[5:55 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): right away
[5:55 PM, 10/21/2017] The Saviour (Bart): no matter consequences for server
[5:55 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: I also been advised to stay away from ronin
[5:55 PM, 10/21/2017] Rororororo: so i don;t get removed myself

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Originally Posted by Heathen

Wow. Is there evidence to ronin’s dodgy war? And which?

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Admin reply:

We have tons of evidence, the best, truly great evidence. It's secret though, very much so, totally secret, one of those BIG issues that has to remain secret.

#ghettosarelosers





This "Admin reply" never occurred and is completely fictitious and fabricated by the user to further his agenda. This form of defamation will not be tolerated and contributed to the consideration taken to remove this user from both the Forums and the Game permanently.

I would like to recommend that everyone learn from this experience such that you do not suffer the same fate for similar actions.
-DavidC

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Originally Posted by home.alone

Sleepy first war was Bart trying to outsmart the admins, so no it was not any arranged or fake war.

Sleepy 4th war was also not fake or arranged.

Neither was Robin war with cp

However last age Spartans war with Spartans 2 was clearly arranged with players moving from 2 to 1 after war for crown purpose. Go cry a river Xist. Still it may not remove the tag of cheaters from Spartans.

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I totally agree that first war of Sleepy wasn't an arranged fake war nor that sleepy's 4th war was fake.

At the same time I have yet to see evidence that any of Ronin's war were fake either.

What annoys me is that.

1. Double standards.
2. Judging by the evidence I have the admins selectively share these things with their former friends and not the rest of the server --> same way BB knew last age that we would be removed from post-age rankings and adjusted their entire last 1-2 weeks of the age to it while others didn't/couldn't because they didn't know.





1) We will always put forth our best effort to maintain a single standard. To my knowledge we have kept true to that.
2) - There is no factual evidence possessed by this user
- BB did NOT have any information last age that the community did not also have. Please refer to my post at the end of this thread to reiterate and clarify our position on confidential information.
-DavidC

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Originally Posted by Hellrazor

No way that that could be true , BB getting notified a few weeks before the age ends that some kingdom will be deleted/removed from charts ...
I've never witnessed anything unfair

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Can hardly believe it and all the facts point the other direction. BB has traditionally been a KD to seek conflicts just for the sake of conflict and the fun of warring, hence they engaged Persain. They are the type of KD that wants to burn bridges to secure a #2 spot. They are also the type of KD that would all come online 10 minutes before EOA to secure their #2 spot on the post-age rankings.





This post appears to be more motive fabrication on the part of the user to further his agenda using the basis of character flaws of Game Administration that did not occur, i.e. basing an opinion on propaganda disseminated by himself previously and now referencing it as fact to prove a point.
-DavidC

Was Ronin actioned?

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Originally Posted by JeffT

If your kingdom is actioned, your kingdom will not chart.
If your province is actioned, your province will not chart (but your kingdom will).

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You probably shouldn't believe a log that could easily be fake, that obfuscates one of the parties, and is an attempt to create drama.

Anyone that believes anything Bart says would want their head examined. We don't share inside admin info with anyone, period.

Bart, you are no longer welcome around here.

We will not tolerate defamation of the Game or Game Administration in any manner.
This user has been banned from the game and forums permanently.
We have been overly accommodating and lenient with warnings, that time has ended.

For the sake of clarity and the removal of doubt I will reiterate Bishop's underlying message; information that is and should only be known by Game Administration is not shared with any part of the community. To be more direct, that means only Bishop, JeffT, Munk and DavidC have information related to the daily operation of the Game and information is not released to anyone else. We take confidentiality very seriously and will never jeopardize the trust of the community by disseminating confidential information to parties other than those listed.

Nearly everything that has been posted by this user in this thread is fictitious and not based on factual events or information derived from Game Administration and will not be tolerated.