Are you trying to tell us Elit outplayed the entirety of Absalom? All 10+ of your legendary leaders and so forth? :)
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And just for anyone who hasn't read/remembered it and to give Pam a faettacker boner, the Pansies best crown ever run at the peak of the game
I believe the faery age was their near triple crown age, which was their b2b2b age (which I already listed). Could be wrong though.
Yes. It was.
#1 nw, #1 land and #3 honor.
My list of fave crowns is very similar to yours.
I like the Pulsing Trollfag crown as well as your list.
I actually just spat coffee when I saw that they beat up FREE as well. =P
Do you even read?
I claimed that your explanation of the relation between the two isn't an argument of what you're trying to prove : Rage wasn't good without Absalom and they would have won less crowns.
Looks like you implied Rage was s**t without Absalom at its full power.
But just for the discussion, can you tell me of two disadvantages to be in Absalom for Rage that could have hurted their crowning attempts?
Not being able to farm the less skilled kds.
Its quite ironic that you ask me if I dont read when most of your text can be answered in the last posted quote.
No I didnt try to prove that Rage wasnt good without Absalom, what I did was claim that they would have less Crowns if they would be solo just as I wrote it.
No I didnt imply that Rage was **** without Absalom, what I implied that both Rage and Absalom got gradually worse. Which is the truth cause both disbanded.
What made absalom so powerful was 1) dorje's sim 2) their competition being worse. Last age is pretty symbolic of what happens when you let the non-abs inmates run the asylum. As is all the jerks/swea/simians/ama/pewpew beef mentioned previously in this thread or other threads.
Korp, Rage had the best war record of any Abs kingdom by far and I'm pretty sure the best war record of any kingdom on the server over the ages Rage existed. Do you really think that having a bunch of unbreakable eoa NAPs is helpful in that situation? Elit can probably tell you himself that having EOA NAPS with kingdoms you could own in war will cost you crowns.
Yes, this is true, but the competition also got gradually worse. The age I retired, Rage finished #1 NW and #2 land. HoH (an Abs NAP kingdom) got #1 land. Dorje and I both retired after that age and it was really Abs last age.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
First, Abs cf'd Elit without too extensive damage on him (mostly a lot of both sides being stalled and some damage to his province.) In the end we accepted his argument that Dreams was no longer Sonata after Versace was deleted for hacking rage and realest quit. After this cf, there was no "Absalom vs Dreams". The top kingdoms later were Webmaster with Sg, ZZ, and Dreams. ZZ was one of the kingdoms that had initially agreed to help Cheese gb "Sonata" but then backed out and used the time to get out front. After Elit dealbroke Webmaster, it was between Dreams and ZZ. After ZZ backed out on the coalition against "Sonata", no one shed a tear when Dreams beat them.
Hmm, just got home and had the forums open and got distracted! Will be watching now.