Looks like flogger suddenly became busy after calling Bour a liar and being proven wrong.
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Looks like flogger suddenly became busy after calling Bour a liar and being proven wrong.
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Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
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Originally Posted by Akkadian/Taylor
I'd like a full AWAR summary when this does end. Of each kingdom on both sides, gains and losses. Who waving who.
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Originally Posted by Shai
Utopia was on its unfortunate downfall long before ABS disbanded.
Your statement is debatable, some would argue such alliances that used a subterfuge aggressive play style in order to get their kds up in the charts, were part of the reason many left the game.
In that department, none beat ABS in it's wide reach, not even HaLL.
No, I don't think that Emeriti bypassed any notice deals to make an arranged farm war with a target running from BB.Quote:
Originally Posted by Akkadian/Taylor
Not BBQuote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
They didn't bypass any notice deals to make arranged wars with any target running from anyone.
This ^^. This is like oh he bumped into me and bruised me, retals by taking out a gun and murdering him. This is essentially the message being sent, forget about fairness it's gone to back to the dirty utopia of more allies more multis = I'm right, as long I win = I'm right.Quote:
Originally Posted by DM_Benjamin
There has been so many lame plays worse than this recently but not of it has been met with this kind of response. I think more so than this age deeds aabs just wanted use any excuse they can find to punish an abs kd for the ages of powerplaying and used any remote reason to do so even if the actions that they are doing are just proving that aabs has always been that they have been worse than abs in ethics and dirty play.
Frankly I would have wanted BB to beat Emeriti after in a 1v1 fight, now there's no strategy to the game when every one is playing lame. Why dont we we have 0 cf agreements in future so guys can stop being so lame.
This is very far from a 4 on 1, palem. Pretty even on both sides? I'm very afk though. =}Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
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Originally Posted by DM_Benjamin
That is Utopia though
Flogger feels he's right
ASF feels he's right
Only God (Bishop) knows whose right
Flogger has convinced more people to take his side
ASF, unfortunately you lost in the diplo wars
Confirmed ASF is Elit? #PlotTwistQuote:
Originally Posted by TheOne
I haven't read the forums at all, but now things have quieted down a bit since all of BB seems to be bouncing back into fortified, here goes.
Pyro (summary)
war_earlyend 0 (1)
war_declared 0 (1)
own_tm 62,490 (692)
own_raze 14,165 (34)
own_mass 8,313 (1)
own_fail 0 (11)
own_bush 2,285 (33)
enemy_tm 35,849 (431)
enemy_raze 348 (1)
enemy_learn 0 (1)
enemy_fail 0 (7)
enemy_bush 3,203 (41)
TOTAL 25375
BB (summary)
own_tm 3,707 (8)
own_fail 0 (2)
enemy_tm 6,151 (42)
enemy_raze 46,050 (869)
enemy_fail 0 (34)
TOTAL -48494
WSK (summary)
own_tm 5,326 (32)
own_fail 0 (1)
own_bush 90 (1)
enemy_tm 696 (4)
enemy_bush 340 (2)
TOTAL 4380
Simians or whoever the hell they are (summary)
own_tm 652 (3)
enemy_tm 3,712 (22)
enemy_raze 1,713 (34)
enemy_fail 0 (15)
TOTAL -4773
Jerks (summary)
own_tm 1,451 (15)
own_bush 58 (1)
enemy_tm 552 (4)
enemy_raze 2,171 (63)
enemy_fail 0 (6)
enemy_bush 47 (1)
TOTAL -1261
FS (summary)
own_tm 0 (1)
own_raze 802 (55)
own_fail 0 (2)
enemy_tm 0 (1)
enemy_raze 1,030 (68)
enemy_fail 0 (1)
TOTAL -1030
Not shown 17 kds (REDACTED)
TOTALS
war_earlyend 0 (1)
war_declared 0 (1)
player_left 0 (1)
player_dead 0 (13)
own_tm 73,626 (751)
own_raze 14,967 (89)
own_mass 8,313 (1)
own_fail 0 (16)
own_bush 2,433 (35)
new_player_started 0 (2)
enemy_tm 47,099 (508)
enemy_raze 53,395 (1170)
enemy_learn 0 (4)
enemy_fail 0 (70)
enemy_bush 3,590 (44)
TOTAL -28025
In ~10 days or whatever we've been razed for 53k acres, most of that into our war with Pyro, and are the same size as when we started.
Now, I'm going to go briefly on the record and say that this gb is bull****; BB and their allies are 100% in the wrong. It's not an alliance war, much as asf and flogger might want to talk it up. Flogger's utopian dream is to "win" an "alliance war" against "absalom", but Absalom disbanded long ago. This is just a gb that expanded into a larger conflagration of, well, bull****. Three hundred acres of razes that were repayed with heavy interest and an apology is not an excuse for an age-long (or multi-age, per flogger's threats) gb. You have taken what is literally one of the least ****ty ****plays of recent ages - pyro and bb have each done worse to us in the last 2 ages - and used it as an excuse to further your goals with dirty play.
BB was smart enough to pick an aggressive growth awar setup, and we were dumb/inactive enough to give them the excuse they needed to backstab. Pyro I guess just didn't want to fight us, though why they'd want to enter a war of death rather than just give up a few thousand acres...well, makes no sense. Why bb took the ceasefire in the first place, taking acres under false pretenses, is beyond me though. Any ceasefire that gets forced on you by some stretch of the imagination is no ceasefire at all? You realize that in a war game, every ceasefire following a conflict is forced on one side, right?
I get why jerks and FS are involved; bb has helped you out with your enemies over the past few ages. Smart move to start building your alliance a few ages in advance, all the while claiming that alliances are the death of the game. You probably should have waited another couple ages to get more kingdoms though.
I don't get why WSK and (I have no idea who they are, simians shell or warcry or something) are involved. My best guess is you think you'll get acres from us, or from our friends, but that doesn't seem likely. Ultimately I guess the four of you feel you have a better chance of getting a crown between you if you never have to fight us fairly. Which is probably true.
This thing could go on forever, but, at risk of repeating myself, it is simply bull****. At least when covenant planned their alliance war against absalom they started with a roughly equal number of kingdoms. You just found four kingdoms to raze one, so that you could claim your awar victory (lol), ensure bb was the most recent kingdom to back to back crown (lol), and get the beatdown on "absalom" you've always wanted. Eventually either we'll give up and delete and retire (which I'm told you claim is your goal?), or you'll give up and delete and retire (which i guess, symmetrically, should be our goal; it's what happened the last time bull**** of this magnitude happened, after all). The game loses.
Now is the time to get out, and since you don't like asf's proposal (I wouldn't want to war us either, not with a human setup) here is mine: give us back all the acres you razed from us, just as Bour gave you back the acres he razed from you, with the same level of interest he gave you. Unlike you we won't pretend to accept the ceasefire and then dealbreak you later. We can then eoa ceasefire so you don't have to fight us fairly this age, and you can build your alliance up a little bigger for next time.
I'm going to go back to not reading the forums, so anyone who would like to reply should get in touch with Aquaseafoam or Leshrak.
No.
LOL! One of the main reasons why this "AWAR" happened is because of this guy...Quote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
i actually got hit into eowcf last age by either Chrystal or mike cant remember (they both razed me)....as i explored my banks. One of them cf'ed when they found out it was me, the other i had to go beg Simians to ask their "new" sleepy players to tell him to stop. Got no acres back or even an offer from either kd.....didnt want it, that **** happens i let it go--ish.Quote:
Originally Posted by flogger