Spartans Vs Nonpandas

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Originally Posted by makeo

Well Mr Korp. I'm of the opinion that only driving forces in crowns rather than even council peons should knock Anri's record unless they have done it themselves.

Y'see if Elit or flogger or dorje take the piss. ..then all good. Because we all know those fellas will lead any decent war kd or scratch kd to a crown.

My point is that crown council players...from really good kds ...like your Osaze type players while skilled...we don't really know or imo ate unlikely to, build a kd that is better than a Sims type kd that Anri has. Just imo. I am open to being wrong.

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nvm, wont derail this thread further this time. architects like me and vir have to stick toghter! ;)

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Originally Posted by SlightlyOverdosed

Do you suggest dealbreakers should be awarded a fair war?
That's not the interest of anyone in the community, besides perhaps the dealbreakers themselves and their... friends...

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When strippers and Cody deal broke the rage shell age after kd retired, there was pressure from anti-abs against havoc (the only abs kd competing with a chance to win) to not help or raze into war or they would be GB. Rage shell was forced to Mp strippers although they deal broke for absolutely zero reason (there was zero interaction between the two kds in prior ages). no one cared to help, police it, or make sure strippers did not profit from deal broke, if not for that they would have been completely farmed.

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Originally Posted by Korp

What kingdoms have you lead? What crowns have you won? What success have you had? Cause after that barrage we can be sure you're not just some random grunt with an opinion right? :)

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I dont see it as a barrage Korp.

Just calling it out as how I see it.

Like you , I am a random grunt with an opinion. =]


I just happen to be a random grunt who thinks someone like Anri with his history of actually leading Sims and stuff was worth more late Utopia than for example a council position in somewhere like HoH or being a decent player in Swea and Spgc like yourself was. :)

For example a good friend of mine played a few ages in Sanc. Won a crown or two. They got adopted into the kd from Deana's "adopt a nub" programme because of the contacts they made on genesis.

They've won crowns. They wouldn't have a clue how to build a kd that could war at much more than a hmm. ..Wishmasters level? Around there.


Edit: Anyways , off topic. I should not derail.
On topic: My suspicion is that the book of Sonata has been opened to Bart by Mr Octobrev and we shalt see how well he has learnt the lessons. ;)

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Originally Posted by makeo

I dont see it as a barrage Korp.

Just calling it out as how I see it.

Like you , I am a random grunt with an opinion. =]


I just happen to be a random grunt who thinks someone like Anri with his history of actually leading Sims and stuff was worth more late Utopia than for example a council position in somewhere like HoH or being a decent player in Swea and Spgc like yourself was. :)

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So what makes you be able to call it out as you see it but not Osaze, in all aspects Osazes is much more experinced than you. So if people that only lead kingdoms to crowning can hack on Anri then you a random grunt shouldnt be able to hack on Osazes at all. Besides, there is very few people that can carry a whole kingdon om its own a council is there to ease the burden. Elit had councils so did jdorje, Elurin, Mansoor, etc. :) pretty sure none of them could have done it alone would been too much.

I like that you think my only crowns were with HoH. I also like that you think I've never helped lead a kingdom at top tier.

Also Korp is right, you are being very hypocritical.

You would agree with Korp that I am being hypocritical of course in this situation :)

It's bollocks but you would.

I am not as Korp likes to laughably portray 'hacking" on you. I'm just pointing out that your ego is misplaced based on the level of play that you have achieved.

If I was being hypocritical, I would have mocked your ability when you actually are more experienced and probably a far superior player to me.

Like you did to Anri.

Now, while I am aware that you at least crowned with Jerks as well, the concept that you were a driving force is well...bollocks.

So , now we've got that sorted and I have said "Hi2u Korp" and flirted with his forum fun , can we all move on with having some popcorn.

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by makeo

You would agree with Korp that I am being hypocritical of course in this situation :)

It's bollocks but you would.

I am not as Korp likes to laughably portray 'hacking" on you. I'm just pointing out that your ego is misplaced based on the level of play that you have achieved.

If I was being hypocritical, I would have mocked your ability when you actually are more experienced and probably a far superior player to me.

Like you did to Anri.

Now, while I am aware that you at least crowned with Jerks as well, the concept that you were a driving force is well...bollocks.

So , now we've got that sorted and I have said "Hi2u Korp" and flirted with his forum fun , can we all move on with having some popcorn.

Thanks.

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But who are you too judge? You admitted yourself you're on a much lower level than Osaze. If Osaze cant complain about Anri you shouldnt complain about Osaze. Thats the hypocrisy in it all. Besides, isnt it mocking when you without actually know how HoH was run place the win on Ravenant? :)

Okies Korp , I shall explain how it isn't hypocritical.
1) Now, for me to be hypocritical I would have to had to mock Osaze , which by your own admittance I haven't.

I've given him props.

Osaze did however mock Anri.

Is that clear enough logic?

Osaze can point out that Anri hasn't crowned of course. But to mock his crowns when he hasn't achieved them himself as the lead of a kd is not right.
That's wrong imo. You may think different.

There are a tier of players that can mock Anri. It's quite high.
There's a tier of players that can mock me.

That might be quite low. ;)

2) I know for a fact that the Abs/HoH map was achieved by the personal contact between Ravenant and ASF and the help given in the Cov vs Abs awar. This you can verify but anyone with even slight abs contacts amongst people playing at the time know this.

This was the major reason HoH achieved their crowns.

I view that as a masterful piece of diplo by Ravenant myself as it furthered their crowning ambitions.

And ummm...known a few HoH'ers as well. ;)

So, meh , can we just move on to the popcorn part of the thread and accept that I just called Osaze out for mocking Anri without having done what he has and that I don't think he is in the tier that has the right?

The concept that I am hypocritical for pointing that out , just because I haven't been council in a land /nw win when *I clearly give props for it and rate it and my best achievement on that level is a peon honor crown* is amusing.

You know the score Korp.

You've won crowns. Do you actually genuinely think you achieved more than Anri did with Sims being a decent player in ED/SPGC/SWEA /DoA?

Because , let's be honest. You probably didn't.

:)

Now can we have beer and popcorn?

I'll buy. :)

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Originally Posted by s0830887

So Pandas just saying ´**** it´to wpa disadvantage and trying to get military/pop space advantage? You guys gonna try grow to match them?

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On topic: the wpa disadvantage on the core was actually less than expected. Based on the intel we had, it was worth putting on extra acres in key areas, so we did.

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Originally Posted by CannaWhoopazz

On topic: the wpa disadvantage on the core was actually less than expected. Based on the intel we had, it was worth putting on extra acres in key areas, so we did.

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Who is war planning this one? And has Coss rage quit yet?

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

Who is war planning this one? And has Coss rage quit yet?

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Coss has played every day so far this age, and has actually told a few of the other kingdom members to "chill" a time or two!

* this was written before we got topical, I'm just slow *

My impression has been that Bart is mirroring his impression of top play. I'm glad that octo and Bart have built a comradery, purely based in my desire to see action up top. I've not spent time finding reasons to dislike any top players. My admiration for Anri comes from seeing his resolve age in and age out. Diplomacy is fascinating to observe and I can appreciate the masters even at this point in the game.

Of korp, Osaze and makeo, I've seen all 3 in kingdom if only for short stints. Each of you have different qualities that make me imagine you as divisional leaders in my Virtual Kingdom. Osaze of order, makeo of neutrality, korp of chaos. I know that each could recruit and yield the best 8 players to bring their division to fruition. Don't worry, I don't envision myself as anything but core. The great kings are all taken, but I look at a guy like protector as one of the most complete players on the server. He has the mental fortitude and stamina for the long haul. He might not be considered great in one area, but he is on balance irreplaceable.

Can Panda/nonPanda/42/ Bamboo eating philosophers on the meaning life people give updates plz?

A simple "We are considering our dragon choice" type one would do.
Even better if you send one and tell us which one.

Or a "notice expires on x date" etc one. ;)

Not looking for strats stuff, just a description . :)