Evil Dragons...

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Originally Posted by GotCha

and since ive posted that we have already gotten another war win (since yall were over 1m nw larger) and have pumped up. So if yall would have been around 5.4m nw like i told yall to stay if you wanted war, then this war would have already been done with. Do you see what youre missing yet? "hint" a whole war of time because yall wanted to grow another mill on us. Just saying. its really not that hard to understand dude.

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This just makes me laugh. On every level.

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Originally Posted by GotCha

and since ive posted that we have already gotten another war win (since yall were over 1m nw larger) and have pumped up. So if yall would have been around 5.4m nw like i told yall to stay if you wanted war, then this war would have already been done with. Do you see what youre missing yet? "hint" a whole war of time because yall wanted to grow another mill on us. Just saying. its really not that hard to understand dude.

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You're right, if only we had just not trained (oh, what's that you say? We were already over 6m net? I guess...that's not the case then).

Oh, you're telling me that you didn't tell your monarch about this? Because he hadn't heard about it until after we messaged him. Which is...interesting.

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Originally Posted by Persain

I said most good kds, i still stand by needing your more active people on t/m.

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heh, i know what you think persain.
but meh, i'm sure we will war at some point and figure it out.
then you can show strippers what war is all about, coz i KNOW you will fight us 1 v 1, i KNOW you wont complain if we are 5% bigger... and i am damn sure you will put up a better fight.
(but i am also sure you and i have a very different definition of active to gotchas)


and gotcha, organise it with zap, i am sure we could be quite accomodating in arranging for you to give us that war win you keep offering us

ben. you done jumping up and down up and down on it? lol im sure zauper is quite satisfied by now. And forsaken, you do NOT know me so dont act if you do, or act if you know what i consider anything to be. Thanks. And hopfully your provs dont look 2 bad after this war and we will be around the same range. :) i am more then looking forward to warring yall.

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Originally Posted by GotCha

ben. you done jumping up and down up and down on it? lol im sure zauper is quite satisfied by now. And forsaken, you do NOT know me so dont act if you do, or act if you know what i consider anything to be. Thanks. And hopfully your provs dont look 2 bad after this war and we will be around the same range. :) i am more then looking forward to warring yall.

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You should probably grow some then.

That said, you also shouldn't count on getting war with us immediately after, either. Obviously we'll have other, more important, things to do.

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Originally Posted by GotCha

ben. you done jumping up and down up and down on it? lol im sure zauper is quite satisfied by now. And forsaken, you do NOT know me so dont act if you do, or act if you know what i consider anything to be. Thanks. And hopfully your provs dont look 2 bad after this war and we will be around the same range. :) i am more then looking forward to warring yall.

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am i forsaken?

and it is my KD you want to war... so i am well aware of what is going on/has gone on

like i said i will leave the arguing for the battlefield. You guys can sit around making each other feel pretty and talk about how much you love the others shoes and new outfits. You know where to find me. Peace

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Originally Posted by GotCha

like i said i will leave the arguing for the battlefield. You guys can sit around making each other feel pretty and talk about how much you love the others shoes and new outfits. You know where to find me. Peace

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Does this mean you won't pussy out next time? I'm just checking. Because it seems like you're the one who turned down war, not me.

papa zapa, are you getting us some dessert?

Who is this gotcha noob?

Take a ticket. We'll farm you later.

I asked for a sum up of this thread where is it!!??

a few pages back

*eats popcorn and stuff*
<3 Forensick
<3 zauper
</3 cessna

hope gotcha accepts war when you guys come for it, will be funny watching him ragequit the forums and game

their king just better tell us which prov is his, so if they back out of war AGAIN, we raze kill the right person.
no point punishing an innocent for someone elses bravado

so if im not mistaken this is how it looks.

ED is going to gain 10k acres from war with strippers and be 45k acres and 5 mill nw.
gotchas KD is going to be 35k acres and 5.5 mill nw?

And their plan is to war ED when they come oow with strippers?


yep that sounds fair to me lol maybe ED should ask for 96 hours after the eowcf to get ready......o wait....thats strippers who do that.....and if ED pumps those acres they are then 8 mill nw.

so im guessing ED is not supposed to build those acres? Are they supposed to get razes to stay small and landrop so that they can war you gotcha?

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Originally Posted by Arka

so if im not mistaken this is how it looks.

ED is going to gain 10k acres from war with strippers and be 45k acres and 5 mill nw.
gotchas KD is going to be 35k acres and 5.5 mill nw?

And their plan is to war ED when they come oow with strippers?


yep that sounds fair to me lol maybe ED should ask for 96 hours after the eowcf to get ready......o wait....thats strippers who do that.....and if ED pumps those acres they are then 8 mill nw.

so im guessing ED is not supposed to build those acres? Are they supposed to get razes to stay small and landrop so that they can war you gotcha?

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Every time somebody mentions Evil Dragons, god kills a kitten.

They are kitten haters

if im not mistaken thats exactly what ED prefers? To pick on smaller kingdoms massacring/learning/plundering and raze kill their players for 4 days bullying them into war? Sounds like ED to me. Good luck Gotchas KD

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Originally Posted by yamibone

if im not mistaken thats exactly what ED prefers? To pick on smaller kingdoms massacring/learning/plundering and raze kill their players for 4 days bullying them into war? Sounds like ED to me. Good luck Gotchas KD

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Average Opponent Relative Size 106%

I think you are mistaken

averages can lie......

all it takes is one KD that is 120% of your NW to wipe out warring two kingdoms 90% your NW.

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Originally Posted by Forensick

page 1 ->10

ED asking strippers to tag and war (bravado and what not)

page 10
ED finds strippers, who are in EOWCF (after a min time gain)
ED steals from CF (as strippers did to ED last age after agreeing on war.... and it seems to lots of other)

Strippers come online, labeling ED as bullies and asking for the server to help... or something, because ED wouldnt give them 96 hours to land drop out of range (sorry "pump"), Strippers only war ghettos that are evenly below them.

page 10 -14
The community at large tells strippers to man up and fight.
ED gets bored listening to them complain, so raze kill a prov to pass time.
strippers announce that it is unfair, so wont retal.
Prov dies, strippers finally retal, and then declare war on ED (claiming they are now even more disadvantaged... which negates means in declaring then, they negate their reason for not declaring earlier)

Page 14
Unsullied has 11 of their provinces (29 total razes), on the same hour, raze kill a province in ED, that strippers had chained to 420a
Strippers stop posting (so that way they don't have to deny it was requested)
Unsullied monarch says he had no idea his KD did that, but doesnt care
ED keep warring, and are significantly winning (despite external hit from unsullied, who are still taking intel on chained targets, and a few minor ops too)
Unsullied nubs show up claiming ED killed one of their provs previously ina 1v1 conflict. and that is so evil, that they are doing something less evil, and razing into war when ED has no capacity to retal

page 14/15
ED mentions that numerous KDs have contacted them, offering help raze killing strippers (and unsullied)
ED declines such offers because even 2 v 1 after 36 hours strippers are down 3000+ acres, have more disabled provs, and a n/w trending down faster

summarised enough?

so aparently, being generous 33provs vs 24 is still "not even" for strippers

and zauper thanks unsullied for the honour boost

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Ty for the sum up

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Originally Posted by Sheister

averages can lie......

all it takes is one KD that is 120% of your NW to wipe out warring two kingdoms 90% your NW.

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We've warred one kd at ~85% our NW (an oop war), two kds at 120%+, and then strippers who were ~92-95% of our NW. The only KD we've picked on for war was Strippers, and we had pretty good reasons for that.

Now, let's see -- we've gain 400k nw relative to them since warstart now.

These totals include the razes from oow:

Total Attacks Made: 351 (+24186 acres)
Total Attacks Suffered: 211 (-16382 acres)
Net Exchange: +7804 acres

<3 zaupzaup

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Originally Posted by Ezzerland

I think you need to rethink this comment. There have been many stupid posts in this thread to justify unethical behavior, but that does not mean bullying is not relevant, nor should you be suggesting people quit the game.

Edit - After discussing with Zaup, we disagree on what exactly you meant. Are you saying that bullying doesn't exist and anyone who thinks otherwise should quit? Or are you saying that bullying did not happen in this case and if you think being hit is bullying you should quit?

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I'm purely on about our situations with ED this age.

Of course I would see some much larger KD pushing around someone who can't fight back as bullying and have no desire to see the game played like that. However at the same time I don't have an issue with a much stronger KD exerting pressure to gain something if they have a valid reason, I mean a much larger KD putting random hits into an isolated explorer who has out grown their KD and can't fight back isn't bullying IMO (e.g. HoH hitting our "bank" 4-5 times over the space of 48 hours is their right as a larger KD even if we don't enjoy it).

This guy is just complaining about bullying between 2 KDs in a 1v1 situation where both were in adequate waring states, there is also more to bullying than just looking at a KD size especially when you bring in what has been said between KDs. There's a difference between a legitimate complaint and just moaning and throwing about buzzwords.

Arka - did you used to play Earth 2025 wayyyy back then?

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Originally Posted by Jem

Arka - did you used to play Earth 2025 wayyyy back then?

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Off topic. Im gonna have to issue a warning. You dont get in line, you will be banned.

Fake mods are fake. We love our earth sisters.

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Originally Posted by Jem

Arka - did you used to play Earth 2025 wayyyy back then?

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nope never did play earth

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Originally Posted by Parth

You dont get in line, you will be banned.

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We're going to have to assume this is the line of people who owe you nudies...

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Originally Posted by GotCha

and since ive posted that we have already gotten another war win (since yall were over 1m nw larger) and have pumped up. So if yall would have been around 5.4m nw like i told yall to stay if you wanted war, then this war would have already been done with. Do you see what youre missing yet? "hint" a whole war of time because yall wanted to grow another mill on us. Just saying. its really not that hard to understand dude.

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All I'm seeing is you constantly posting idiotic comments and throwing around threats.

You said you'd war us based on a disagreement on the forums and Zauper saying you're welcome too, your KD then makes a single anon hit into us (why would you attack us if you're not ready?!) and we messaged. Your monarch replied (wont copy/paste the msg since it was private) but it told us who the anon hit was, that we could retal x2 and called the hit on us "lame" and not ordered, it also said how your KD was growing in NW and not looking for a war.

So why do you insist on coming here trying to trash talk ED, because you personally can't handle a forum disagreement? We have no issue with your KD as a whole, probably a nice enough bunch who've not given us any reason to think otherwise. How about the next time you have something to say to us it's in the form of a notice to go hostile with us, rather than excuses, until then you'll just be considered a gobby cow (that one's for Parth) who has no saw in their KD's leadership nor decisions.

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Originally Posted by sheister

averages can lie......

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You cant handle the truth!

Numbers never lie.

People just don't understand numbers :(

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Originally Posted by Palem

Numbers never lie.

People just don't understand numbers :(

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There are lies, damned lies, and statistics.

amirite? (but no, really - people lie, numbers don't <3)

Statistics can be made up :P

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Originally Posted by flutterby

Statistics can be made up :P

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Most statistics are made up!

85% of statistics are made up.

but 16.1% of made up statistics turn out to be true

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Originally Posted by goodz

Most statistics are made up!

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4 out of 5 utopians disagree with you.

when you all comin to springfield....

bow chicka bow wow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dvv9Lbgz1-E

What now? I thought Strippers disbanded??