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Originally Posted by Castille
Situation has been resolved. Would like to formally apologize to Coss and his KD for any ****talking that took place. I was quite pissed off he lost to BB but we as a KD crossed a line there in the communication.
Still think Coss = noob for not taking some rogues or running TDs :D <3
Are we also going to receive an apology for the ****talking that took place from their side, or do we have to take the moral high ground again? And Bart, dont apologize in my name, it pissed me off! I have no regrets, specially dealing with Coss. We have a history and it started with him having 4 other kingdoms raze us into our war because the nub was desperate he wasnt going to crown. Dont apologize in my name, you can do it for the rest of the kingdom if you like. I rather leave Sparta than apologize to that nooblet. -VaspQuote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
You've just won me some beer money <3Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Ok sorry Vasp. I then apologize in the name of all of Sparta minus Vasp but Vasp is noob and stuff etc, sooooooooooo.... GG?Quote:
Originally Posted by Castille
@astron, np!
And the rich get richer...Quote:
Originally Posted by astron
Can I join Spartans?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
I need you back mighty poopsie
thats so sweet of you Mat!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Heathen
Wow coss still around. Salut !
War agreed after a prosperous or what? Where's the promised B2B, I see Sparta didn't train a thing and explored 15% in the last 12 hours.
I bet they both saw possibility to crown so they gonna whore and war ronin.
WE ARE?? holy ·%"·$%"$·%"·$ nobody told me! im here slacking like an idiot catching up on work.... ermgd bart wont be happy :( im gonna be punished again... oh plz Mr. bart dont hit me again, plz plz. I promise ill log in more than 1 time a day, I promizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzze uuuuu.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansoor
Vasp - you are so Utopia durig early 2000 where the game was full of teenagers like you acting out on the internet.
Haha
He becomes more unhinged by the day. He was doing so well for a while.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mansoor
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Originally Posted by Bananamancer2000
5:6 noticed us a day after war was over into EoWCF so we had to CF Sparta who are now free to explore away.
Questions is, how much did Bart pay 5:6 to notice us into eowcf? Did he take a loan from Astron? So many questions!
Coss seemed happy to CF and include an EOW CF + 5 days prep clause, which I agreed to. This means you can now (try to) farm 5:6, then come back for us in YR10. At least, that's what Coss intended and I respect that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Shai
Paranoia strong up there in land of self inflated importance, eh Shai? I think they have meds for that .
Lies, Coss doesn't know of this happiness emotion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
I cant understand this kind play. Notice in post war? Ok so why bother to make notices deal at all if some one can send it in post war? Its really lame play, well i know Shai deserve it but still i think its bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shai
Paranoia certainly increased when the game was bought by active players who still hang out with their old KD-mates. Lets say we all miss Bishop's ruthless unpartizan justice.Quote:
Originally Posted by ellivort
Last I checked, notice is notice of Cf ending unless otherwise stated.Why wait 3 days of eow to give notice of 3 days? Seems logical.
So no hitting into fake Hostiles (or non existent ones). Can't notice while other KD in eow. If you get a notice you MUST cf all other kds in range cuz logic. No choice. Any other non sensical rules we should be aware so we dont offend such delicate sensibilities.
Man there are some delicate flowers up there in the top 5.
Is it so bizarre to think a KD might just want to end cf to open higher targets and have easier access to war at some point. Is it possible some kds might just want to, ya know, play the game and dgaf about chartshaping, crowning or backroom dealings.
Paranoias a killer boys.
Lame play? We had no terms other than 72h of intent to drop cf. Messages in EOW are what? 120%? 2 pts on the meter? Please, tell me more about how lame it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
ellivort, Main reason for people to make Cfs with notice is because every one want to have relative fair chances to prepare for incoming conflict. When you send notice to another kingdom during his post war time you effective cut time they have for prepare. Post war is for recover from war, you didunt had any war so you have noting to recover. Notice from 3 days is for both kingdoms have his time to prepare for incoming fight. When you send notice during post war you effective drop time what have your opponent and its unfair. Its why i call it lame/cheap play. If its don't break your deal terms its legit but still very unethical and its bring only problems in long turn.
Here is second very important moment too. Conflict from war looked unsolved and chances for b2b war was very high. Now your notice force Sleepy to look for CF. So your actions had direct affect in this conflict too. Its very unfair and lame.
Im not Shai fan. He did to kingdom i was in past something similar to what you are doing now. I still didn't forget or forgive him/binar for it. This kind play really make long turn enemy. My advice is don't play like it.
Like previously stated: no terms, just notice. Take your whining up with sleepy leadership who were happy to give this CF. I understand Elit's point of view, but it's not relevant here. There was no term attached to the notice deal, so if desired, the notice could have been given even during war.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
More drama! Come on people :)
Less terms, more wars..
Give longer EOW CF, introduce a gc stacking cap and remove homes pumping. Then there will be less terms and more wars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkmoore
Edit: Oh and if you do that, also remove land-bonus from WWs (only give honor/science).
You forgot to say that they also need to reserve #1 spot for you, Bart....Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
It was up to Sleepy to negotiate terms. We didn't give 3d notice of war. We gave 3 day notice of cf ending as was required by agreement. So it's our responsibility to make sure our enemy is fully pumped before we attack? Interesting at this altitude. When you are out of eow it's open season. There is no official or unofficial protection granted UNLESS negotiated through Diplo. Quit accusing us . We've done nothing more than play the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
P.S Sleepy: Hit button boys. 3 messages demanding us to give and you get, but dont press. Stop wasting OUR time.
Did you diplo a time fram when they were suppose to press the button or did you jsut give the button?Quote:
Originally Posted by ellivort
After breaking cf on their end and egging us on for two days we figured they'd be eager to take us down quickly and move on. If they don't want they can always beg off and we will move on. *Shrug*
Why is everyone up here so afraid to play the game as intended.
YOLO. Push it so we can get on with it.
What on earth makes you think that they are obliged to play after your rules? Werent you the one that just gave a speech about what oyu did wasnt against any "rules" inofficial or official ones and Elit should stop accusing you? Why are you then demanding that Sleepy should play by how you see things?Quote:
Originally Posted by ellivort
I'm not demanding anything. They wanted button. We gave. The end.
We' re just trying to have some fun before age ends. Guess we overestimate d the fun times up here.
Just trying to hitch a ride home. It's cute to see so many taking our lil YOLO battle so intensely
But you were just telling them to push the button... While you should just wait until they do or do diplo if you arent interested in a conflict anymore.Quote:
Originally Posted by ellivort
I didn't demand it. They literally said "Give me a button, don't waste my time" . It's like some saying they bringing you a coffee then never show. I won't demand my free coffee, but I will wonder 'wtf mate'. We still interested. We have nothing better to do. Other things equal or lesser, but nothing better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
But they didnt specify when they were going to push neither did you diplo that they should push it in a specific time frame? No complains, they have done nothing wrong and you should just wait for them to push it! I mean that was the argument you brought forward as a defense towards Elits opinion "We havent done anything wrong" alltough inofficial courtesy dictates that you shouldnt notice into a eowcf. Sadly its gotten so rotten late years that you have to diplo that into agreement. :(Quote:
Originally Posted by ellivort
Never said they were wrong either. I just said hurry the eff up, but thanks for taking the time to do such long-winded elaborate trolling about a conflict that doesn't involve you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
You're right it has gotten bad. So bad that you can't play the game as designed anymore. Instead you have to diplo and follow some vagina rules that a bunch of ****talking nerds made up to hide their inadequacies.
It's this over Diplo activity that's killing the game
This is a public forum, if you dont feel like you are up for other peoples o pinions maybe you should just not post at all? You seem very riled up about this whole matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by ellivort
Your own kd included, why arent you playing the game as intended then and hide behind bunch of cfs and notice periods. Shouldnt you then be a good example of not having cfs? Though diplomacy has been part of Utopia ever since it was created so i dont know about are you just a clueless noob? Or perhaps you never had the chance to play in a tier that was relevant enough to have diplomacy until the game is half dead?
Who would want to play in a tier filled with ****play and cheating? Doesn't at least one KD or a few top prov end up deleted every age?
Not my choice to cf. If it was us cf very sparingly. Diplo has always been part of the game but not this endless circle of terms, deals, notices, criteria... God it must get exhausting
I didn't say you couldn't or didn't want hear opinions. Was just thanking you for your time and effort. Looks like I might have hit a digital nerve tho. Oopsie.