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I am loving all these lies. Keep them coming.
@Pyro: You're being lied to about wanting to crush/kill AMA. We will not give AMA a free crown, and we will not end GB until they CF all involved KDs. Elit said he is not accept any offer unless we give him a free crown. Everyone in the alliance channel has said they want this to end asap. No one is willing to gift AMA a free crown to end it. Elit was offered a deal to MP, CF all involved KDs, and move on. He turned it down.
@Lupine: Nope.
LOLOL! Does this mean CR will be the LARGEST KD after the GB?Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
F ****, this is too much to read, gained like 40 pages since my last visit. Summary please, for one of the greatest legends of utopia, Realest.
Simians seem to suffer from Rage and Rage seems to be monkying around?Quote:
Originally Posted by Realest
Anyone else think they should change the age name to A crown from the gutter?. Whoever does end up taking it has nothing to be proud of.
it has always been about helping specific kds that have big mouths but can't fight thier own wars aka Fake rage and CRQuote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Ok, evading the question is a great strategy when you run of bull**** to answer with.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
Was also wondering if you are as good as you pretend to be how come you haven't crowned since returning to game? Flogger has managed to win several crowns since coming back and not living on past plays as you seem to be.
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Edit: faegan, your leadership offered to raze the acres since they are leaving the gb. Seems reasonable that they will be razed then.[/QUOTE]
So what you're saying is, that if Pyro had not taken part in this we would not have been allowed to whore in that time? If you guys were gaining acres we would have done so elsewhere for sure. And may I add at a way lower troop cost than into war razes galore. So if it's because it's AMAs acres we should raze them?
I'll summarize with the help of twitch plays pokemon:Quote:
Originally Posted by Realest
Fair Play Alliance = Electrode
AMA = Bird Jesus
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It is really funny how the leadership of several kingdoms are blatantly mixing up the facts for their kingdom mates here, or the people posting here do not access to facts and speculating what they are, or they just hell bent on posting false stuff to stir **** :D
Let me state this again: We do not condone AMA's dealbreaking and still feel we are right to partake the start of the GB.
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Originally Posted by Ezzerland
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Originally Posted by Zauper
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Originally Posted by Zauper
12 hours before AMA declared rage, Nesta got a deal with Elit which is 1) CF to all parties involved in the gb to eoa 2) AMA do not crown 3) AMA will not shape charts this age. Yes this does not mean that AMA will raze a single cow acre (but they can choose to do so if they decide to go warring after this. this is up to them), but I believe this is what the alliance strive to achieve. AMA loses its' crowning chances, and AMA will not shape charts, and there's eoacf to all those involved in the gb. In fact, I am just wondering whether did we actually have a fixed goal/target at the start, but I recall the general sentiments are those 3.Quote:
Originally Posted by tetley
So, it is clear that it is a CF to all parties involved in gb. I do not wish to take logs from the alliance channel and post it here.
After this was rejected and the alliance pushed for what nesta+me felt were unreasonable demands and not in the stance of fairplay, and with the addition of comments thrown by high council members of several kingdoms about doing xx/yyy/zz to AMA etc etc before they are willing to end it... this is the rationale why Pyros decide to pull out. Peple may say that we left Rage hanging, we probably may have done so, but we got a reasonable CF (which leaders of those kingdoms are starting to see it) that could end all relations and cancel buttons etc, but it wasnt agreed. And the alliance is heading towards a kill AMA motive.
Btw, Anri, I really lol-ed at you. When Pyros hinted at the slightest bit that they might pull out 12hrs before they did, you literally straight away went to your dear-est friend in AMA... and asked him for AMA and Simians to CF it up, and then come and GB Pyro. Like instantly. lol Sure no problem, but minutes before that you were saying different stuff of what you wanted to do to AMA.
For those saying Pyros should raze their acres gained from the alliance action, We will talk to several internal and external parties and then decide from then what's the rightful and fair action. As far as I know, this was the final message in the alliance channel that was made by Nesta.
'Hi everyone, please remove me, CJ and other representatives from my KD from this channel. We'll be taking our leave. After very thorough consideration among our council and sources close to our hearts (no, its not AMA, or flogger, or PS), we feel (*REMOVED*) is a stance we cannot take. We will accept all consequences (*EDIT:maybe not*) dished by the group here, including gangbang on us, as what was being thrown around here 8 hours ago. We just feel this is the right thing to do, and it's more important to do the right thing, than the easy thing. We will maintain a neutral stance.'
(btw we made a bet whether we will be kicked above 1.5mins below 1.5mins after the post.. and I lost on the side that I took :( damn 10usd)
From what I recall (I may be wrong), Nesta initially offered 12hrs before this to raze some acres off, but that was with the group agreeing to the CF deal he got with AMA at that particular point in time. Whether or not we will need to adhere to this even if the same CF deal is made, we will refer to 'We will talk to several internal and external parties and then decide from then what's the rightful and fair action' listed 2 paragraphs above.
Once again, if we were to just care about acres, we would have just TM-ed all the way and make more than 4 cow hits (which came way into war protection) over the course of the war. Someone said 15k was what we gained, I actually havent formatted papers but Nesta calculated it to be 12.8k. We could easily do 30+k acres if we wanted. However, we followed the conditions of this alliance which state that Pyros&CR would have a war soon after the gb, and CR&Pyro would match acres after the war.. and we did our fair share of razing. And again, I cannot stress further that AMA still has those 2 cows because we were told to not touch them (from talks with topsy, this turns out to be a grave misunderstanding and both of us acknowledges it).
In addition, there were threats that were mentioned about some people regarding Pyros. If these were to happen, we will not take it lying down.
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It seems to me that the alliance is now trying to solve things diplomatically for things to end. I hope it is because they believe that it is because the initial terms are unreasonable and that it's best to compromise for a peaceful solution to settle things.
Palem did a very good job at this but I will add further.Quote:
Originally Posted by Realest
CR declares on AMA
Fair Play Alliance begins gangbang
Pyro Trad marches 14k acres
AMA withdraws at min time
CR gains 35k acres
Pyro leaves Fair Play
Simians tries to bully AMA into ridiculous CF terms
AMA declares on Rage
AMA 20v25 is still pooping on Rage
FP continues raze into AMA as they continue to beat up on Rage
Most of FP realize they created a martyr out of AMA and now the community is looking to rise up Alliance wars looming for next age
Simians decides they want to turn FP against Pyro and raze off the 14k acres they took
A lot of anger
If one of the greatest legends of utopia wanted to return, this coming age might be a good one. (I am of course talking about myself, not Realest)
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LOL after reading several of the last pages and TheOne's most recent post, it's looking like there's a need to scrub the "Not So Fair Play Anymore" alliance and start a new one targeting several self-proclaimed "fair" kingdoms whom are still members in that alliance...
If deal don't work for both sides simple there wont be deal or you cant trust it. I told your group last time when we talked STOP PK its have noting with fair play and its WONT HELP YOU GET DEAL. What you did? New PK. All this BS cross total any line. Havoc need to take his responsibility and withdrawn from crown race now too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ezzerland
1.Havoc **** play all age small kds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Realest
2. Havoc try same vs us and not worked.
3. Havoc called Rage/Pyro/Simians/Rusty with: promote fair play and promise Pyro fair war for n1 after take us down.
4. AMA is down.
5. Pyro proposed reasonable deal for all Sides. AMA acepted it but Havoc refuse.
6. Pyro left GB alliance and they loss his right for fair war with Havoc for n1.
7. AMA declare War Rage and Simians/Rusty keep max raze us.
8. Drixx contacted ama and told im look for deal but im go off next 10h and left. 10h later we Got new prov PKed oow and Drixx say he don't have control over GB.
9. Elit start being unreasonable :P
I love itQuote:
Originally Posted by Elit
Elit is cat being cornered by hungry dogs
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