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I think it's bad form to start posting excuses about why the war is turning in Pandas favour (or at least levelled out), im sure panda could give excuses too.
I'll rather see a "damn they playing it well" or "They done a few things we didn't think they would and it caught us offguard", rather then "we are sick/tired", "being hit big time from outside", a news showed some "Islamic State" Halfling vice province in a ghetto hit you, maybe you did something to him? Who else hitting CR?
I think people with time on hand should assist to remove these people interfering, what a disappointment that someone gets to hit in, even if they are doing it to CR.. I thought we as a community stood up for **** like that.
Sounds like a really good war though and I'm glad I got a few posting me screens and the detailed updates in here.
Still dont see anything other than a CR victory. But thats just inexperienced me.
They are playing it well.
Looks like both kds are playing it very well and not giving up anything for free
To be honest, don't really feel like going over the specifics. Due to the fact that we're both still fighting and might see things from another perspective.
Any info here is just free intel for them, so trying to explain other stuff FOR FUN. Cuz I like having fun and not having no fun.
I used to like avians, now I hate.
Me neither, but if Pandas knows that I see a path where they win a B2B and the age.Quote:
Originally Posted by lampost
Jwuzi I understand, but I rather not see excuses, more fun to read a story in that case, like...
The birds are attacking from above, raining their stones down upon us, we are taking out those flying too low, like "insert name here", our polished swords are cutting them chickens down like knife in hot butter blah blah blah" :p
We havent asked for any outside help, never would never will.
Im sure Folle is one of the ones that razed Darla, i mean he has made those intentions clear since Octo RK'd him. With that said, those hits CR took has no effect on the war at all. They are all tiny ghetto hits.
This war wont be decided over what? 500acres? Im too busy getting oopsed to calc it :P.
On a sidenote, i think Munk should invest some added gcs to his server, im pretty sure it will crash hah! Good thing is then we are both back to good old uto days
Loons, while it might not have huge effect it's still **** and annoying, im sure you would feel same if done to you.
I think these outside hits should be taken care off by the community, because noone likes being hit into war, doesn't matter who it is.
The outside hits are kinda irrelevant. Annoying, but it's not like they're cow hits. Sorry people are *****ing about them, they're clearly not pandas fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
Pandas are playing well. Our internal struggles (all the sickness/etc) has made it hard for us to get our own footing -- often we'll be using one kind of strategy during U.S. daytime and then overnight a different leader runs things and sees it a bit differently and so things wind up changing -- our lack of being able to run a constant strategy is our fault, but pandas good play is exploiting it to an extent.
Things look interesting -- one of our original cows are down; one of their original big avians is down, and one of their dwarves is starting to fall. Their remaining big avian is fairly shelled. Our upper core humans are pretty weak, but stronger than their upper core avians. Our lower core humans are able (with cow help) to slowly pull their guys down, so it's looking good for us if we can just stick to our gameplan.
Mil advantage erased by slaying and their good use of their peon advantage, but peon advantage is much lower now -- 1-way sapph followed by lots of fireballs.
Pandas have had an interesting strategy, very different from how they ran their prior wars. In the prior wars, it was all about their core and running over the other kds core. In this case, to some extent they've sacrificed their core (though their core is +acres), in order to focus on fighting our cows. When conflict started, we looked at it as 9v5 at the top. When war started, 7v5 because we were able to bring down several of their calf sized avians in hostile. We now look at it as 6v4. Hopefully that dwarf will be down soon and make it 5v4.
Meanwhile, both kds upper cores are growing and struggling to really chain the other.
How badly do these outside hits trigger Goldy?
I think some have also leveled accusations at BoH that he is Matija as well.
Zauper don't get me wrong, I doubt the outside hits are a game changer, and from what you are saying it's no real issue.
But from my perspective, which I'm sure you know pretty well by now, I find it extremely disrespectful for outsiders to hit into a war, no matter what reason they might have to do so, and I personally hope people will put aside any grudge they may have towards CR and stay out, or at least help take out those actually doing the hits.
Thank you for the update, I know going into more details would reveal too much, but is there a chance you could update me on previous reasons why to focus on their core rather then TMs prewar? Panda chose to focus on your TMs and it seems to have been a wise choice, as they couldn't break your banks. Wouldn't it have been good to take Pandas OP heavy out first too, to avoid risking the fall of a couple of cows? Your cows seemed safe in regards to Pandas offense.?
Sleep is for the weak. Its the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zauper
Pandas tradded their TMs, CR massacred Pandas TMs. CR's faes probably have 2-3x the mods. So what do you refer to as "taken out"? Pandas TMs are in much better shape in a b2b situation or a situation where both sides have to fight another conflict.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
Maybe cJ was right.
Sleep is for the SL33PYQuote:
Originally Posted by flogger
outside hits suck. I wouldve helped take care of those provs if not for the taxes. where is feyrplay when u need em :D?
Get your charitable donations in for next year so you can deduct them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
weve done enough donations the previous 2 ages. wasnt enough for a one-time deduction, which turned a personal relationship into a business one. and in business only profits matter, not loyalty or morals. what would we gain from helping out :p?
I remember the Islamic State mentioned here, pretty sure we hit that guy more than once but CR even razed him iirc, he's been trouble whole age, I salute him for his durability and commitment to whatever his cause is :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
It's very helpful if you itemize your form 1040 schedule A.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Flogger, I meant economy wise, that should be fairly obvious, if it was tradm hits...
I don't have a prov to see, so I went from what has been said here where people has said Panda took out CR TMs while CR focused hits on upper core, the cows wasn't hitting prewar massacres on Pandas TMs as far as I could read in here? Or did I misunderstand that bit?
P's. I never said anything about b2b as I doubt CR would do a tactical wd in any event.. Likely if panda did the tactical wd it would be CR wins age (with merchant pump + acres), unless Panda secured an insane amount of acres beforehand.
#DiploQuote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Their t/ms were largely safe. Remember -- our largest core prov was 6.5k acres, their smallest t/m was ~7.5k? The best way to go after their t/m was to go after them in war, which is why we opened war with massacre.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
On the other hand, their upper core was enough -- about 6 of them iirc? that were in striking range of our cows. So we focused on hitting those down, and successfully removed a good number of those threats to our cows at the start.
From the looks of it Pandas does have the opportunity to secure an insane amount of acres beforehand (they can make their Faeries 2x hitters)Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
But even then the issue of pumping in time would be there, CRs merchants would be able to recover extremely fast, especially with the added acres of a war win, where as despite Panda's added br bonus, wouldn't be enough to secure the provinces that doubled up, would they?
Looks to be a great war and from the rank screenshot it looks like divinity has put themselves in brilliant position to jump the loser.
Thanks zauper, I didn't realise Pandas upper core was at any threat to your cows even army out.
Tog doesn't help if you've been beaten down on the tog provs to where they're too small to be of use when fully pumped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
Going back to your econ on the TMs comment, one sides TMs are 200 NWPA, the other are 270. Neither have or contribute much to econ, one may have some higher wages though.
Cr losing another cow? After homo sapiens, Goldy going down as well, wow.
CR's cows trying to screw Panda's cows
http://stream1.gifsoup.com/view6/1916408/cow-fall-o.gif
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might wanna change the bird abuse kd tag...... jus sayin
Folle throwing out star wars knowledge. never knew the skywalkers were so wise.
edit: folle, no locs please.
That was legit funny Bart.
Flogger none of CRs cows are ToG'ers? and wouldnt the added acre bonus give CR some laverage on the ToG front in higher core? (how big is CR core?), people make it sound like CR got 6/7 cows, though Zauper said 4? and with 2 cows seemingly down/mid of going down, does the core merchant core in CR even have a chance vs Panda's Avians? Sounds like the battle of little big horn down there.
Seems like CR still has four 15k-20k acre cows up and running Aranfein.
Tell that to Darla, Blue Falcon, and Kim... #NeedSomeRedBullQuote:
Originally Posted by flogger