Simians Vs Sanc, HoH or Rage

I speak for no one other then myself.

From someone who does not care who wins and just enjoys watching the drama and fights. It looks like ya shat the bed and are now throwing a fit.

You have actually become my favorite character in this TV show called utopia. A narcissistic blowhard with a never say die attitude. I look forward to next age :)

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Originally Posted by DHaran

You are nothing but talk Anri. I might go talk to jdorje about playing in Sanc next age just so I can be a part of your laughable revenge quest.

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Plz, there is 24 players in Simians and everyone feels the same way. Go ahead DHaran. It will be fun! I been waiting to get get both you and Bishop ingame. :)

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Originally Posted by octobrev

Did you cf sanctuary or will they farm you oow?

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They will try to farm us OOW. I will CF them over my dead body :)

nice words and good post drixx

Yes Drixx, very nice post. But i dont agree this is the same situation as you were in. We did not give our button to some random ghetto and we were in an entirely different situation overall here. There has been KDs that have waited to clear relations also. I stopped waves many times cause i saw the other KD attack someone else. I even stopped waves in almost the exact same situation as this just that we been a bit smaller. We were not dicks about it and we let it go and came back for the target later.

It is what it is :)

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Originally Posted by Anri

But i dont agree this is the same situation as you were in. We did not give our button to some random ghetto and we were in an entirely different situation overall here.

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There you go, applying your own rules to a situation, the same thing you are angry with Sanc about. Glass houses s-s-s-sink ships!

We always followed the rule. I think most has. It was Sanc that broke it. I am not angry with Sanc. I will enjoy hunting them. Only thing that now is different from before is that we will never CF and they are open season into hostiles.

I think i lost you now DHaran. Abs will always go over their history books and find one absalom KD that has been treated dirty and use it to justify their own actions.

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Originally Posted by Anri

they are open season into hostiles

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This is exactly my point. You will wait for Sanc to go hostile with another kingdom, and you will wave into it. That is not what Sanc did. Sanc told you ahead of time they were going to wave, you ignored them, and Sanc kept their word and did exactly what they said they would do. Your "revenge" will just be a cowardly double hostile vulture move, no more, no less.

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Originally Posted by Anri

Plz, there is 24 players in Simians and everyone feels the same way. Go ahead DHaran. It will be fun! I been waiting to get get both you and Bishop ingame. :)

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hmm who is playing 2 accs ? as I can plainly see 25 provinces.

and if people send me dragons I dont run towards another kd and expect the kd sending me dragons to no0t follow up. You waiting 1 houer for them to make another hit is just bull talk. Took you 1 houer to figure out wether u wanted to war sanc or HoH.

I find simians crying double hostile hilarious when simians themselves hit in *actual war* earlier this age.Just because it was ghetto they didnt complain here so stop being hypocrite simians you have done worst thing than you accuse sanctuary of.You also hit trollfags into their real war afew ages ago when they beat other side soundly when you decided on your own it was fake war.So please stop throwing mud on others and think about your current and past actions

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Originally Posted by DHaran

This is exactly my point. You will wait for Sanc to go hostile with another kingdom, and you will wave into it. That is not what Sanc did. Sanc told you ahead of time they were going to wave, you ignored them, and Sanc kept their word and did exactly what they said they would do. Your "revenge" will just be a cowardly double hostile vulture move, no more, no less.

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but anri is telling sanc ahead of time he is going to wave, and if he keeps his word and does exactly what he says he'll do then he's justified

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Originally Posted by lastunicorn

but anri is telling sanc ahead of time he is going to wave, and if he keeps his word and does exactly what he says he'll do then he's justified

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Not even remotely the same. A specific set of circumstances led to this situation. Anri intends to use it against Sanc in an entirely different and unrelated set of circumstances. That's the coward's way out of this in my opinion.

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Originally Posted by MegasX

I find simians crying double hostile hilarious when simians themselves hit in *actual war* earlier this age.Just because it was ghetto they didnt complain here so stop being hypocrite simians you have done worst thing than you accuse sanctuary of.You also hit trollfags into their real war afew ages ago when they beat other side soundly when you decided on your own it was fake war.So please stop throwing mud on others and think about your current and past actions

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Wow, and the truth comes out.

Simians definitely has no right to be crying over this situation then.

I think anri can whine and whine all he wants no one buys it. End of the day:

HoH: 1
Simians: 0

Abs wins age :)

If Simians dbl hostile Sanc next age and my kd is in range we'll definitely hit them. You don't own UT Anri, you want a similar situation? Wait till Sanc notices Simians, Inso and BIO in range then chooses to fight Inso when u sent a dragon to them telling them you're going to wave them so when you hit Sanc once in fort they full wave out to Inso. Then it will be the same scenario as it is now. But guess what there's no one as dumb on this server to repeat the moves you did, instead of admitting fault you cry and blame others. Yes, yes it's always somebody's fault, never yours. :)

jesus dharan is a bigger abs apologist than abs themselves.

no wonder secrets was such a junk kingdom

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Originally Posted by Darklove

hmm who is playing 2 accs ? as I can plainly see 25 provinces.

and if people send me dragons I dont run towards another kd and expect the kd sending me dragons to no0t follow up. You waiting 1 houer for them to make another hit is just bull talk. Took you 1 houer to figure out wether u wanted to war sanc or HoH.

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the bank left us. Replaced now thou. But was to late.

and no. We wanted to war HoH for a very long time. For about a month. They were the reason we even stayed in the race.

people make up their own assumptions. All is experts about me and my kd. pathetic. We will do what we want with sanc til we feel they had enough. Simians withstod a nice 200 kd gangbang one age. Takeshi. Bring us the button.I care so much about your ghetto. Stop obssesing about me and Simians. You make me feel like a star. Am i slim shady.

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Originally Posted by lastunicorn

but anri is telling sanc ahead of time he is going to wave, and if he keeps his word and does exactly what he says he'll do then he's justified

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Yea ofc we notice sanc now that next age when they in a fight we inteend to wave them now they know :P
simpel and if they get more kd?s in so do we ofc , there is more abs haters then lovers thats for sure.
and erly age they even more in trubbel ofc as then most is in same size + new war % rule make it easy the smal kd have nothing to lose as they can never end up in a war anyway , sanc F up thats it what ever any one else say what they did was take acers they have no use for made rage lose the crown and gave it to hoh as we dont care , and as hoh say they not abs , but i say they are , but as they not then abs lose in evry way they cude have.

bending rules bite back so its open seson for any one to dubbel trippel 5x some one now we all know this now and abs has to live with that :D

and now at least dice is no longer an option to win an age :D becuse there will never be cf to all for rage sanc or hoh anymore they always have to be pumpt and redy always , this will make it easyer for non abs to be bigger then abs always in coming ages and they be the only one that can dice if abs cf them so lol at abs for all of this

And to HoH sorry yes we gave you a lot of free land , yes we did hit back so its a legit war but we dont plan any waves or any ops or any plan at all we just do what the F evry one want to be doing
so congrats to the land and prob nw crown now .

to rage at least you get cow nw/land congrats on that

and to evry one else have fun always beat dice.

Sanc is not a poor little kd that cant defend themselfs and they have some of the strongest kds on the server. No need for small forum trolls to save them and be abs little dogs. We r not the whiners. They are cause they know we mean bussiness and nothing gonna stop us.

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Originally Posted by lastunicorn

but anri is telling sanc ahead of time he is going to wave, and if he keeps his word and does exactly what he says he'll do then he's justified

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This. Correct. Sanc saw we started dragon on HoH before CF was up also. Abs powerplay. A notice is not a hostile. We played smart to have them pump up. Not double team us when dragon was paid and button given. I cant understand for my life that people take abs side in this.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Not even remotely the same. A specific set of circumstances led to this situation. Anri intends to use it against Sanc in an entirely different and unrelated set of circumstances. That's the coward's way out of this in my opinion.

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I intend to wave them when they given a kd in HoHs caliber a button. I intend to make sure that Kd use the button. I also intend to rape them oow or any other chance i get to **** them. Til karma is restored.

farm war like Inso vs Sanc, BIO vs Hoh and now HoH vs Simians, all kd's lost 30-50% of their land.

We initiated first. We sent the dragon first. We messaged you informing you that we intended to complete our wave. We did so, before you were even hostile with HoH (7 hits is NOT hostile relations, even from aggressive)

This is the exact same set of circumstances that you encountered when you were leaving fwar a few ages back, you made the same mistake with us and DoA and the same thing happened.

If you want to use this as justification to act as if we have butthurt you, then please feel free to try. We are not daft enough to put ourselves in the situation you put yourself in time and again. Except for when dorje is handling notices. I should be quiet about that now, I'm going to get in trouble.

Love ya, Anri, but you're making mistakes and covering them with bluster, and that is never attractive.

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Originally Posted by Anri

I knew this could happen, i was not entirely sure they would do it.

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I think me telling you we would do it should have been a giveaway.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

This is exactly my point. You will wait for Sanc to go hostile with another kingdom, and you will wave into it.

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Does that mean we will get a war???

This sounds like an amazingly good plan. Lets do it.

YES!!!! More WARS!

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Originally Posted by Anri

Sanc is not a poor little kd that cant defend themselfs and they have some of the strongest kds on the server. No need for small forum trolls to save them and be abs little dogs. We r not the whiners. They are cause they know we mean bussiness and nothing gonna stop us.

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Small trolls are enough to let you know what happens when people talk the way you and calle talk. KD's disband!

But you look in top ten and you see ghetto cats they don't love abs but they would likely back abs in this conflict over simians. Despite a bunch of ex KLA players in my kd there is no way we would back you in this, attempting to do so would likely result in a disband for us.

Then you have mercy/sanctuary/rage/hoh. All would be true to abs 100%. Most warring KD's like abs well enough and in past they have helped abs over the aggressor. I can't imagine it would be any different. But I love a good awar more then anything.

So anri go make amends with flogger, promise not to run terrible race setup next age, and then lets see you get this thing started. Heck it worked out for cheese didn't he end up in absalom some time after?

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Originally Posted by jdorje

Even though I told you we'd wave when you left fortified? Since you had to leave fortified anyway, why not give us a few minutes to wave then? Why make 7 quick hits (which does not give button btw) and try to sneak away before we can wave, when you know we're going to wave within minutes anyway?

It just makes no sense to me. You didn't have to notice us. You didn't have to be in fortified after the notice you gave expired. You didn't have to wave someone else after I informed you we were about to wave you, and dare us to wave anyway. You didn't have to continue your wave and give the button after we resumed ours. All of those were your choices, and they didn't work out very well.

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So lets sum up:
1) Simians 'dibs' HoH
2) Sanc 'dibs' Simians

By the posts I read from you, option 2 seems valid but option 1 isnt? Lol. Hypocrisy much? :p
Giving notice to a kingdom or telling you wave a kingdom doesn't claim them for you. They are free to do whatever they want, and if Simians hits HoH 7x that's considered a hostile.

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Originally Posted by goodz

They hit their bank first. You can only do so much into a KD in fortified. But they made their intentions clear, Anri tried to run.

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There is no such thing as claiming dibs = hostile. A single hit doesn't constitute a hostile, neither does a dragon.
Perhaps Anri 'ran', but that doesn't really allow Sanc to double Simians even if they landed the first hit. Sanc had their chance for over an hour, and hitting into fortified isn't actually as bad as people display it.

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Originally Posted by goodz

I 100% believe that if he had waved sanctuary HoH would not have touched him.

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If they're indeed intending to improve their rep then I also doubt HoH would interfere with Sanc/Simians.

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Originally Posted by goodz

Sometimes you have got to say we rolled the dice, which giving notice to 3 at once was. Renegotiating CF's with 2 of them so they could go back to dicing was there best bet. Otherwise they needed to make absolutely sure with the other parties that they would not be waving them.

If simians wanted to war hoh and then war sanctuary as this was "obvious" They should have noticed HoH. Warred HoH. Then noticed sanctuary.

Like I said right at start the break cf with all 3 does slow them all and you can see the logic, but it gives abs the right to choose who wars you. You tried to give notice to all 3 and pick your target. Too much cake for one monkey imo!

@tak3shi even abs leaders say HoH is in abs :P

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I think everyone mutually agrees the tripple notice was stupid :)

And if Sanc really wanted to fight Simians, they had an opportunity for it. They didn't take it which allowed Simians to choose their own target. Despite Simians stupid notices, you can't claim what Sanc did was morally and honorably legit. You can only claim a kingdom by waving them, not by doing 1 hit. (Otherwise you end up with KD A hitting KD X once, then KD B hits KD X once and both KDA + KDB can wave KDX because they claim dibs due to one hit, that'll just create more situations like this)

prot, relax!

7 Hits is no more hostile than 1 hit if all we care about is button.

Simians calling dibs on HoH is no more valid than Sanc calling it on them.

Anri made mistake, they should have full waved HoH or hit Sanc after they engaged them. Semantics is usefull for flame wars on forums but dont protect your ass ingame.

I still dont see why are ppl going emo over multiple notices tho.

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Originally Posted by Drixx

Anri, as someone who has had good conversations and relations with you in the past, I hope I can say this to you here and you will understand I'm speaking out of genuine respect and hoping it will be helpful. Some ages ago, either during my last age co-monarching Trinity with Alien or it may have been my first age co-monarching Fury (the age we didn't tag and people still called us Grace), we had a similar situation happen to us. Prot gave us notice that would expire a couple hours after our planned wave time. ASF told us to cancel our wave and prep for Prot's kd, but we decided to go ahead with our wave and we gave the button and told Prot to wait, which he did not do. He waved us with our armies out.

Was that a double hostile? We thought so ... but we put ourselves in that position. We knew that Prot intended to wave us and wanted to war us, and we waved someone else.

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PM me on IRC and show me logs/papers from that. The first time I ever spoke to you, was when you hit our cow into hostile. We had been hostile with DoA for some time, which was agreed to be CFed. That was not CFed ingame, and thus not yet finished. We hit Simians 3x, they retalled and more hits where coming.
Fury hits our cow. I showed you all the info you needed to prove our hostility and you apologied for it. I wanted those acres back, and the best you offered me, was handing those 175 acres from one or 2 of your core provinces onto my core. You REFUSED to refund those acres to our cow; which at the time was a big deal since it was early age.
You refused to be reasonable over it and I told you, you'd pay for that.
Then a few weeks later, March YR5, your war had just ended. We noticed and as we had nothing to do, we razed your cow.

March 2 of YR5 Count SmackuLOL (##:##) invaded 13- FZwhLZkc8YQ - F (##:##) and razed 1,043 acres of land
March 15 of YR5 Count SmackuLOL (##:##) invaded 13- FZwhLZkc8YQ - F (##:##) and razed 991 acres of land.

You left EOW CF later that day:
March 23 of YR5 We have ordered an early end to the post-war period with Minstrel- lolabit enteusiastic (##:##).

We didn't expect you to come out early, but as soon as we noticed we waved you.

I dont know if this is the same situation you're referring to, but this was the first chat I ever had with you and that age was also the only wave we did on Fury.

/me comes in and LHAO @ Simians
/me parts

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Originally Posted by Drixx

[...] Was that a double hostile? We thought so ... but we put ourselves in that position. We knew that Prot intended to wave us and wanted to war us, and we waved someone else.[...]

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+1 that
you thought you could be smart in playing 3 kd's
you got out-maneuvered
**** happens

woah... after years of being farmed, HoH might've just created a new record for the most amount of acres farmed in a war!

talk about a 180!!

congrats on crown as well... well played...

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Originally Posted by Drixx

Sanctuary was already invested in the fight though and did what they said they would do, and waved you.

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Afaik that hit wasn't risky as their cow was unbreakable after the hit. And even if not, it could have been a bait hit so their 2nd cow could perhaps doubletap. A 2 banks vs 1 bank situation isn't really 'risky' for the 2 banks since you'll always win assuming all 3 are trained.