judging only by kd pages, ED leadership seems to have used a horrible strategy (if there was even a strategy besides chain chain chain) and will likely lose now.
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judging only by kd pages, ED leadership seems to have used a horrible strategy (if there was even a strategy besides chain chain chain) and will likely lose now.
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Originally Posted by LameBeaver
war is ongoing i believe
The war is still ongoing and no matter how it ends I hope this puts an end to any grudges players may of had at the start of this....ED is truely a strong kingdom among the strongest we have faced and I look forward to putting this rivalry to rest...also looks like I need to change my nick to debaucheryftw lol
helloo Petrified. words of a wise man.
i dont know a 50% land difference is hard to make up, if theres any military to back it up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrified
Nice fight back stripper. I knew u gonna win this. U repeating the feat again. Good Job!
I see 5 healthy UBs on the side of strippers and 0 healthy UBs on the side of ED. Those 300a UDs in strippers + the UBs can likely do some effective fireballs to control the extra land ED has, with those UBs making runes for everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Persain
Two of the UBs are halfers, presumably rogues, and judging from the nwpa of ED halfers it seems like the strippers rogues can easily propaganda ED halfers, which totally screws them over.
I did not take intel so I don't know exactly how secure the strippers UBs are from attacks, but looking at only kd pages and the way kd networths have been going the past few days, I still think strippers are quite likely to win.
yes but healthy doesnt mean much as long as u are ub+hard to op your doing good. But agreed looks tough, we'll seeQuote:
Originally Posted by Petrified
This isn't a typical war. You're unlikely see to anyone "win"Quote:
Originally Posted by Petrified
But if you're talking about farming. Then ED is in the driving seat. So many options, slowly grow up their bigs, while hitting down their attackers which can only top feed, bounce wave their halfers, heck ED could even surrender, make use of +500% BR with their land advantage and continue raze killing Strippers which would have really nothing to stop them.
The nw difference is still too big for strippers to handle,ED still has the land and nw advantage so i dont think they will lose.
The Most Honorable Kingdoms in the World (as of March 21 of YR7).
2 Debauchery (x:xx) Dorf 86,606
7 Evil Dragons (x:xx) Lionia 79,541
Well... that's interesting! I so wish I could get an insider's view! :P I hope to see a report on that war!
you build honor when u massively top feedQuote:
Originally Posted by THX1912
Well it's a tough war. We totally outhit strippers first days and farmed enormous amounts of honor and acres. (due to them having a lot of T/Ms).
The longer the war progresses the more valuable their T/Ms becomes though.
As the game works right now you can have 100% offense attackers with 100-150k nw and land def......and if you are 250k+ nw you gain basically nothing with your hits on them.
Few years ago they would have been long dead...could have used big provs to raze them down.
From watching the networth change on their kingdom page .... Debauhery started 700k+ nw down after suffering days of massacres and stripping acres off of their biggies and then razes for days until they raze killed a large elf . When debauchery started war it was 23v25 and they had 1 elf in 3 day protection . Later they invited 2 new players and at one point dropped to 1.5 mil nw gap difference and almost 20000 acre difference . Now it looks like they have a better gap then what they started with and acres are slowly leaning in debachry favor ... As for earlier post about dragons havin endless things they " could " do I laughed hard at the bounce wave halfers comment . Gonna bounce wave their 200k def to 50k so Ur smallies can 1x tap them ? Would be fun to see !
Well, i told Zauper u guys would get screwed when u came across a kd who know how to counteract highly active attackers....this is it. Now while i think strippers is pretty ghetto they do have a firm grasp on how to war.
its the right move, Freeakstyle did this to my kd a few ages back to great success, its a winning strategy if the other kd doesnt 100% know how to counter and have a plan to stop it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cows
This is because you cant chain attackers out of war anymore, if they keep attacking. If you simply chain them to 50-100 acres and kill all their offense all you do is lower their nw so much that your own attackers start geting chained hard. Ultimately you end up with a whole bunch of attackers in both kds w/next to no offense/def. The kd w/the least shelled & more active t/m's ends up winning. ED best bet now is max gain 3-4 hits+bounce an "ub" with their attackers. Their attackers will settle into size a bit smaller than Strippers, but they can eventually top feed back the acres and re-gain honor. Bouncing willll slowly kill the def of the bigs and bring their def down enough that conquest/full break is viable. Simiarlly any attacker that has "enough" acres can start massacre or bouncing the ub's trying to kill def. In war now-a-days your never to big to be oor if you're def is breakable so strippers is set up nicely.
(Y)Quote:
Originally Posted by Persain
I've never personally tried this strategy, but I could only see it working at the start of a conflict. We are in day 8 of war, its too late. Although ED can try it and see what happensQuote:
Originally Posted by Persain
ED spent 2-3 days razing a small elf losing 500-800 elites/raze while 23 provinces in strippers were left totally unhit...just pumping and saving gc with plunders. Also a friendly kd of strippers razekilled a high offense orc in ED from oow relation. The huge nw and land gap was created the first days of war when Strippers were completely outhit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cows
And yeah, the game mechanics is completely different from when I played few years ago. Game looks a lot more "noob friendly" now, it's virtually impossible to get killed in war or in hostile.
No razes, extremely nerfed bottomfeed gains, very high oow losses. Can't say I like it tbh
Sup zmasternr1? <3
I'm sure the 23 unhit provs didn't simply sit there and watch their friend get raze killed. If it took that long to razekill one prov, you can bet they were all sending all the aid they could afford to send him. That pretty much negates most of the pumping that could have occurred.
what does "(Y)" mean?
8 days of war is the right time to start it. All of their kd is on land def. Say you have 50k offense, 2k offense breaks the attackers u need to get land from and your left with 42-44k offense to bounce with. Its not like killing your leets are gonna hurt much and its more than likely the guys you are bouncing into arent cleric or have hospitals. Their def will drop faster than your offense, so who cares if u end up with 40k mod offense, u can still send the 6-8k to break their zero def people and hopefully 32-34k is enough to conquest finally.Quote:
Originally Posted by SillyRabbit
Theres really one one semi-counter to this and based on kd pages and kd history i dont think strippers can pull it off.
Are you actually trying to say that your kd took more damage from razekilling our elf marquis than we did from losing a top honour/wpa elf?Quote:
Originally Posted by zmasternr1
Game mechanics change, and so should your strategy. We've played this war for the long-term since the beginning, and now we are finally getting results. It is clear how this will end.Quote:
Originally Posted by zmasternr1
It is a thumbs-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Persain
In regard to the other section of your post, you must not know much about our kd :P
Getting farmed 20k honor and 10k acres was part of your plan? what if we withdrew after 2-3 days?Quote:
Originally Posted by SillyRabbit
Tbh there is no way your kd is going to win this war if that's what you believe.
yoyo syntico:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Syntico
Go Deb :)
I know you can pull it off
Land means nothing if they empty shells
ah...cool as for knowledge about your kd, i started paying attention in WoL (i usually played genesis as it was more fun) right about the time you guys were coming off your peak. I know you guys mostly by reputation, its a high reputation but still not as well as i'd like <3 lolQuote:
Originally Posted by SillyRabbit
You know we only started in age 53 though right? Think that was well after the WoL/Gen split. Not sure we've ever warred your kd before either, and I think you only knew devout who left the kd in age 54Quote:
Originally Posted by Persain
Perhaps Im somewhat bad about sarcasm, point of note that I've been playing wol and watching the war kds much longer than Strippers have existed as a kd. Fact that i suggested Strippers peak was before it formed implies something. The reputation of strippers is not a good one, thus "high reputation" is again meant not as a compliment. As i have yet to actually war Strippers i cant exactly claim perfect knowledge but i can attest to the generally rude/mean spirited acts that have been done such as waving us for science when were at 70% their size, refusing to war when both kds were matched w/unbrekables, and stealing from my eowcf.Quote:
Originally Posted by SillyRabbit
bring back raze removing acres - its un-realistic nowQuote:
Originally Posted by zmasternr1
It sure is fun checking up on this war every day and watching nw get closer and closer..must be some crazy things going on over there !!
hihi zmas, one of the cooler swedes
untouched? sorry sir you must have forgot your attacks started 48h into our previous EOWCF, plundering gc targets, hitting top attackers with army home and without war build, and then you switched to masscaring our elves and raze killing once we came out of war. I was down 1/3 of my elites and land when we declared war.Quote:
Originally Posted by zmasternr1
QFTQuote:
Originally Posted by THX1912
well reputation is just someone's opinion of someone else, can't judge a book by cover etc, we did make some bad moves such as robbing gc in eowcf but we learned it after it was done to us numerous times (cough cough looking at some "good reputation" kds). But honestly, we are nobody worthy of your attention =)Quote:
Originally Posted by Persain
This is how I imagine ED after losing ww :P
http://dropline.net/cats/images/fail.jpg
Lol 23 totally unhit lololol
The charts for honor are jumping all over the place ... Anyone gonna give an update ? War day 9 ?
You guys seem to have finally shut up after your NW drops, and Drops, and Drops. Maybe i can spark yall back up? Or you still busy getting destroyed by their T/M's?
We owned them and they topfeeded us badly. Now we drop with purpose to topfeed them. It's all written in the great warplan we drew up when war started.Quote:
Originally Posted by GotCha
We let their T/Ms farm honor to keep it away from their topfeeding smallies. That way we can just farm it back few hours before they withdraw.
/thumbs up. RIGHT!
zzz this has gotten old -- end this already and make new wararar!
Thats right Gotcha, just like you destroyed all those attackers with your T/M in your last war, o wait, they took you for all you got.Quote:
Originally Posted by GotCha
i only have 3 words (if u can call them that) for ED based on the kd pages..."arrr arrr brainsss...."