Suicide Squad VS FReakstyle

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Originally Posted by 13nesta13

I wonder if you guys even look through your posts before actually submitting them. Whatever's been going on here has totally made my day just reading them for lols.

Can anyone seriously believe that this wasnt coordinated by someone from SS side (even if not started or led by someone from SS)? SS maxes meter, gets into a war, chains 2 dudes and within 1-2 hour, the 2 dudes got PKed by 3-4 KDs from the outside. And I am hearing claims that SS did nothing but simply fight a hostile and maxed meter and went to war?

Where were the bunch of you last age when I just pressed the button on Emeriti and coincidentally BB started hitting and razing in within the same hour? Nobody said Pyromaniacs didnt do anything, except just playing a hostile and pushing the button that was given to us? BB should be the ones razed and punished for interfering with my hostile/war, but apparently that wasnt the case. I took razes from 4 KDs after BB started razing Emeriti, and I lost 9 provinces.

Please, for god's sake, do not treat others like fools. Dont say something which you cant even convince yourself of.

Have there ever been any public declarations from myself, protector or flogger that Pyromaniacs and BB are allies? I'd like to see some of those quotes please, because I certainly cant recall any.

In fact, me, protector and flogger have always said the same thing, us and BB have fought each other in our quests for the crown almost every age until the last 2 ages, where us fighting brought neither of us closer to our goal of winning. Why is nobody buying our story that we aren't allies? Newsflash, people start associating you as allies when you seem to act like one, be it 2 KDs coming together and coordinating something that just isnt realistically possible without having talked it over beforehand or acting in favour of the other party when you feel that party has been unjustly dealt with.

Asking for explicit logs that SS explicitly was actively involved in coordinating this is ridiculous. You will never get those. None of the KDs on SS's side now would leak these logs, at least its not easy to obtain within 1 day of the incident happening. And what exactly were we supposed to do? Wait and investigate for 5 days before taking action, and FS already having 15 green provinces? Using common sense to assess that (1) we have a few in-game messages of KDs on SS's side reaching out to more KDs for help to join in on this GB and (2) the way the kills and engagement was planned and executed, it does not take a genius to arrive at the conclusion that this was planned.

Were there any logs that was between me and protector/flogger when BB hit into Emeriti last age when we pushed the button on Emeriti? My guess is no. And you wont get them, not until one day if Protector/flogger hates me, or vice versa, AND if we were as childish as CJ leaking past logs and pasting whatsapp screenshots after falling out with the other party.

Please, the least I ask of you is if you have the balls to do it, then admit it.

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No we didn't have beef with emeriti last age so you are confusing us with another kd. And we didn't do anything the only evidence i seen was a new prov asking his ex kd to have fun with us. You guys continue to ignore the obvious and choose to believe in some conspiracy. Why would I not have my allied kds join the fray if I'm organizing such a gb? Lol don't flatter yourself fs I'd beat you 1v1 if we organized this I'd be trolling instead of trying to figure this all out, since it first started. Ya known like you all should have before making a rash decision

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Originally Posted by 13nesta13

My rhetoric is this. If you don't have a cf you are a viable target. If I can gain off you I will.

I don't remember a single kd I have waved this age or any other and not been willing to walk away with reasonable gains. If we agree to postpone engagement that's out of goodwill, not an entitlement, and certainly not 10 days away from end of age. If you're a threat and it's 10 days from end of age we won't give in to compromise of delaying our engagement of course, like anyone else who wants to win.

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Aye but we did have a cf, they broke it and waves 3 ticks afterour eowcf and after multiple attempts prior to setup diplo.

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Originally Posted by Zauper

Look, fighting over this is dumb:

At the end of the day, KDs helping SS claim that SS is organizing / helping organize it. There is no dumb 'reasonable doubt' as to what is happening.

There is no 'right' to land or honor in utopia -- it's about what you have the capacity to defend. If you choose to acquire lots of honor and don't grow, then yes, a larger kingdom can come along and take your honor. Now, I would say that this is true within reason -- there's a limit to how far a kingdom can reasonably be allowed to push another kingdom. That said, this isn't a conflict between kds that are at the bottom of the charts and are ghettos that are slugging eachother. This is between #1 and #2.

I think it's safe to say that most people would acknowledge that I'm not FS' biggest fan. Obviously I played in ED, and even after that I was close with ED until this age -- and ED and FS were at eachothers throats. There are probably reasons for kds to be mad at FS, and that's fine. Those reasons don't justify breaking an EOA CF, and the justification of 'well, they waved a kd too small to war them' is bull****.

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There's actually very few rules to utopia.

If every KD in the game wanted to hit another KD then they are free to do so, quite how Bishop would deal with it under "spirit of the game" is unknown but upfront there's nothing to say it can't happen.

You're right that bigger KDs can "take what they want" from smaller KDs, but with the caveat that it must be within reason. The question is who decides what is reasonable? Is it the utopia community? If the community are allowed to dictate the actions of KDs then the utopian community seem to be voicing that they're sick of FS and how they play so surely this action is perfectly valid.

The reality is that most of what is "within reason" has historically been decided by top KDs and twisted to fit their own agenda, so when a friend is being hammered or they stand to gain from another KD suffering then some justification is applied and whatever happens outside of that immediate sphere is irrelevant, ghettos can bash each other to pieces for weeks or OOW and no-one cares. As the game gets smaller then grudges are more focused, when the same KD is named age after age of doing something which angers other players then it is inevitable that someone is going to say "enough of your ****" and others will use it as a time to take their pound of flesh.

If the warring tier has the "capacity to defend" themselves from bottom feeding by raze killing people doing it, then it is a perfectly valid tactic (within the rules of Utopia) and one other KDs have to resolve as I doubt many people want to spend each age raze killing people or being raze killed.

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Originally Posted by silverfox

There's actually very few rules to utopia.

If every KD in the game wanted to hit another KD then they are free to do so, quite how Bishop would deal with it under "spirit of the game" is unknown but upfront there's nothing to say it can't happen.

You're right that bigger KDs can "take what they want" from smaller KDs, but with the caveat that it must be within reason. The question is who decides what is reasonable? Is it the utopia community? If the community are allowed to dictate the actions of KDs then the utopian community seem to be voicing that they're sick of FS and how they play so surely this action is perfectly valid.

The reality is that most of what is "within reason" has historically been decided by top KDs and twisted to fit their own agenda, so when a friend is being hammered or they stand to gain from another KD suffering then some justification is applied and whatever happens outside of that immediate sphere is irrelevant, ghettos can bash each other to pieces for weeks or OOW and no-one cares. As the game gets smaller then grudges are more focused, when the same KD is named age after age of doing something which angers other players then it is inevitable that someone is going to say "enough of your ****" and others will use it as a time to take their pound of flesh.

If the warring tier has the "capacity to defend" themselves from bottom feeding by raze killing people doing it, then it is a perfectly valid tactic (within the rules of Utopia) and one other KDs have to resolve as I doubt many people want to spend each age raze killing people or being raze killed.

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Sure. But the justification for this GB is that they're doing the exact same thing that ED did last age to continue gaining honor after growing out of range.

Do you feel like ED deserved to be GB'ed for that?

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Originally Posted by silverfox

Act like a fool, get treat like a fool.

Funny how you claim now that it's "obvious" that SS must be organizing a GB on FS, yet last age when you waved ED (about 2 ticks after FS sent us a message saying "It'd be a shame if you were a good target for another KD") it had nothing to do with FS, at least until you shared your WA messages showing it was organised by your alliance. Oh right but you're not actually an alliance, I mean you just GBed ABS last age together, ED last age together and now SS together but you're not actually in anyway allied and have no ties. Being allied doesn't mean you can't war each other or have to publicly state anything either.

Here's the problem, you're targeting SS on the assumption they asked for a GB rather than hitting other KDs doing the OOW hits, clearly hitting the KDs razing would do nothing to try and save FS crown so instead you focus on destroying the KD they're at war with and use the excuse that they must have asked for help. Strategically it's the right choice to try and help FS, but from posts made all I see are people who don't understand the situation within utopia at the moment.

Right now there are so few KDs that you can't afford to be massive jerks to a KD and assume it will never come back to you, it's not like there are +50k players so pissing off 25 of them means nothing as you'll always be 10x their KD size in future ages and untouchable. The "warring tier" might not have the activity or the mechanical knowledge of the game to pump out massive #1 land banks, or take on the few top KDs in 1v1 wars, however they are mostly filled with long time players who can manage their provs alone and have enough activity to army in and out. Right now they have a choice, there aren't enough targets around in utopia anymore with around 160 KDs left, so they can either keep doing the same thing age in age out and eventually get "****played" by KDs like FS or they can just say screw it and get revenge.

What happens when next age rolls around and there's ~5 KDs going for land/NW and the warring tier decide they're not going to be bottomfed on all age, they're not going to play for 10 weeks just to have their provs wrecked, that they're willing to group up and look out for each other as well. Is everyone going to stop going for charts just to teach the little guys a lesson? For how long are top KDs going to have to spend razing people who dare to steal from them or top feed into their KD with better gains and avoid 150 pointing their meter.

I'm razing FS because I've always said if there's a chance to screw them over I'll take it, regardless of who they're fighting, I'd do the same to Pyro.

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This - the evidence shown to me was a province, whom is new and came over from panda, saying 'does pandas want action with fs? They're feeding and vulturing honor on low kd nw so do what you do best. There are some kds doing it'
(Facial emjois not added)

Hmm so an ex panda player talking to his ex kd mate and this is considered ss asked for a gb? Really gtfo over yourself

Hey everyone go raze fs because they are a $$hats

That is asking for a gb

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Originally Posted by Zauper

Look, fighting over this is dumb:

At the end of the day, KDs helping SS claim that SS is organizing / helping organize it. There is no dumb 'reasonable doubt' as to what is happening.

There is no 'right' to land or honor in utopia -- it's about what you have the capacity to defend. If you choose to acquire lots of honor and don't grow, then yes, a larger kingdom can come along and take your honor. Now, I would say that this is true within reason -- there's a limit to how far a kingdom can reasonably be allowed to push another kingdom. That said, this isn't a conflict between kds that are at the bottom of the charts and are ghettos that are slugging eachother. This is between #1 and #2.

I think it's safe to say that most people would acknowledge that I'm not FS' biggest fan. Obviously I played in ED, and even after that I was close with ED until this age -- and ED and FS were at eachothers throats. There are probably reasons for kds to be mad at FS, and that's fine. Those reasons don't justify breaking an EOA CF, and the justification of 'well, they waved a kd too small to war them' is bull****.

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Zauper is my spirit animal lately.

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Originally Posted by silverfox

Act like a fool, get treat like a fool.

Right now there are so few KDs that you can't afford to be massive jerks to a KD and assume it will never come back to you, it's not like there are +50k players so pissing off 25 of them means nothing as you'll always be 10x their KD size in future ages and untouchable. The "warring tier" might not have the activity or the mechanical knowledge of the game to pump out massive #1 land banks, or take on the few top KDs in 1v1 wars, however they are mostly filled with long time players who can manage their provs alone and have enough activity to army in and out. Right now they have a choice, there aren't enough targets around in utopia anymore with around 160 KDs left, so they can either keep doing the same thing age in age out and eventually get "****played" by KDs like FS or they can just say screw it and get revenge.

What happens when next age rolls around and there's ~5 KDs going for land/NW and the warring tier decide they're not going to be bottomfed on all age, they're not going to play for 10 weeks just to have their provs wrecked, that they're willing to group up and look out for each other as well. Is everyone going to stop going for charts just to teach the little guys a lesson? For how long are top KDs going to have to spend razing people who dare to steal from them or top feed into their KD with better gains and avoid 150 pointing their meter.

I'm razing FS because I've always said if there's a chance to screw them over I'll take it, regardless of who they're fighting, I'd do the same to Pyro.

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Pretty much on the money. Somehow the same kds always magically pop up on the same side. The prot/pyro/FS/etc. alliance are well organised. They GB Emeriti. They GB ED. The list is just endless and continues unrelentingly. Sooner rather than later though all those on the receiving end who arnt organised will band together. And yes kds who have beef with fs will hit into their wars.

So fun.... Why all razing SS? Question : Whether the gb on FS is deliberately planned and organized by SS that important? If yes/ no, what does it lead to? And does the outcome still matter? Since razing into SS has already taken place. Judgement already being made but why there are still so many argument over the same point , over and over again. Just whack only ...few more days to go

because some people actually care

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Originally Posted by Zauper

Sure. But the justification for this GB is that they're doing the exact same thing that ED did last age to continue gaining honor after growing out of range.

Do you feel like ED deserved to be GB'ed for that?

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Justification is just a persons opinion, FS feel they were allowed to smack people about and take their honour, other KDs feel that it wasn't acceptable and in their view it was bullying.

My own opinion doesn't really matter, I can see both sides views and they're both equally valid arguments. "With risk comes reward" is utopias tagline, FS took the risk of angering people leveraged against the honour gained, as you said things must be within reason and the KDs being hit feel this was unreasonable so have acted to police the game.

It could be endlessly debated about what is right and wrong, about game mechanics which are good and bad for the game, but what it comes down to is how people feel and there is often very little you can do to make someone who feels like they've been treat unfairly change their mind on the situation.

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Originally Posted by Zauper

Look, fighting over this is dumb:

At the end of the day, KDs helping SS claim that SS is organizing / helping organize it. There is no dumb 'reasonable doubt' as to what is happening.

There is no 'right' to land or honor in utopia -- it's about what you have the capacity to defend. If you choose to acquire lots of honor and don't grow, then yes, a larger kingdom can come along and take your honor. Now, I would say that this is true within reason -- there's a limit to how far a kingdom can reasonably be allowed to push another kingdom. That said, this isn't a conflict between kds that are at the bottom of the charts and are ghettos that are slugging eachother. This is between #1 and #2.

I think it's safe to say that most people would acknowledge that I'm not FS' biggest fan. Obviously I played in ED, and even after that I was close with ED until this age -- and ED and FS were at eachothers throats. There are probably reasons for kds to be mad at FS, and that's fine. Those reasons don't justify breaking an EOA CF, and the justification of 'well, they waved a kd too small to war them' is bull****.

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Zauper, I have also not seen justification for for what has happened. But neither have I looked for it. Most people who have beef with FS and allies (you included) know full well what they are like because they have dealt with them first hand. You dont need to fiddle through the specifics of this case and each and every case, you just say 'oh they ****played me before.' Most of these kds that have had first hand experience were (and still are) unorganized and have been unable to respond. This age alone the kd I used to play in was DB'd and hit into an active hostile from FS, which was the last straw that caused us to disband. When kds stop looking at each case in isolation and go on their personal experiences with FS there will be a chance of meaningful resistance. Until that happens history keeps repeating itself.

I'm wondering how this got to 31:pages. Bringing up FS is like beating a dead horse..

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Originally Posted by Zauper

Look, fighting over this is dumb:

At the end of the day, KDs helping SS claim that SS is organizing / helping organize it. There is no dumb 'reasonable doubt' as to what is happening.

There is no 'right' to land or honor in utopia -- it's about what you have the capacity to defend. If you choose to acquire lots of honor and don't grow, then yes, a larger kingdom can come along and take your honor. Now, I would say that this is true within reason -- there's a limit to how far a kingdom can reasonably be allowed to push another kingdom. That said, this isn't a conflict between kds that are at the bottom of the charts and are ghettos that are slugging eachother. This is between #1 and #2.

I think it's safe to say that most people would acknowledge that I'm not FS' biggest fan. Obviously I played in ED, and even after that I was close with ED until this age -- and ED and FS were at eachothers throats. There are probably reasons for kds to be mad at FS, and that's fine. Those reasons don't justify breaking an EOA CF, and the justification of 'well, they waved a kd too small to war them' is bull****.

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I think fighting over this is the most interesting thing to happen yet this age, unless the IRS is feeling generous and wants to start some drama over the growth charts?

Therefore I'll continue to play devils advocate and urge people to continue killing each other for sport.

As long as they are willing to accept the consequences, the only justification a KD needs to break a deal, gangbang someone, or do anything else in the game that isn't against the rules is that they personally feel it is the right thing to do.

Whether those involved fully appreciate the consequences is still up in the air.

Meep I'd like you to apologize for forum dealbreaking and copying OG N0tail

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Originally Posted by jwuzi

Meep I'd like you to apologize for forum dealbreaking and copying OG N0tail

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I've got OG NOTails permission to steal his dank memes.

Apology denied.

I dare all who are involved to tag next age. We continue this fight immediately once oop.. Shall we?

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Originally Posted by Meep

I've got OG NOTails permission to steal his dank memes.

Apology denied.

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So smart

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Originally Posted by lampost

Zauper, I have also not seen justification for for what has happened. But neither have I looked for it. Most people who have beef with FS and allies (you included) know full well what they are like because they have dealt with them first hand. You dont need to fiddle through the specifics of this case and each and every case, you just say 'oh they ****played me before.' Most of these kds that have had first hand experience were (and still are) unorganized and have been unable to respond. This age alone the kd I used to play in was DB'd and hit into an active hostile from FS, which was the last straw that caused us to disband. When kds stop looking at each case in isolation and go on their personal experiences with FS there will be a chance of meaningful resistance. Until that happens history keeps repeating itself.

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you'll have to provide evidence cause obviously FS isn't willing to respond properly.

I agree with you that there is a clear pattern of abuse of the spirit of the game. But since me and my kingdom are nobodies it doesn't matter what I think, nor does it matter what 10 other nobody kingdoms think. I am pretty sure I established the behavioral pattern somewhere in these pages. And matter of fact FS has demonstrated their behavior as well. For all those that haven't had the pleasure of dealing with FS in game, their actions in game are absolutely linear with what they do here in the forum.
I never thought waving below/above declare range was such a problem and it really isnt as long as the kingdom with the upper hand is reasonable.

For example, Ascension waved us knowing full well we cannot and will not retalliate. Did it feel awesome? no. But they answered my mail and said hey, yea helping out a friend, these are our terms for a cf. And that is fine(even though I declined as they knew I would).
example2: FS waved us well above declare range so they knew we couldnt declare. They ignored all messages (3) and a sent cf. Meanwhile provinces of theirs sent mails to us. But at no point did FS give us even an idea of what they were after or how long this would last or what we would could do to make it stop. For all we knew they could have hit us to 149 points and then just farm one more hit every day. That is not okay.

Running this same gig over and over is even worse. And after all is said and done they run their mouth about the kingdoms they warred. This happens to the few legit wars they have also. You can go to every single fs war thread and there will be accusations of cheating and unfair play before and during war. Then when war is over they'll show "how stupid" opposing kingdom was. And yes, I know you will dispute this and claim whatever it's just the way you say things it wasn't meant that way. That works once maybe twice, not if it happens every time, not for me anyway.

And all the while you are claiming others are cheating, dealbreaking and whatnot you receive gold in war. Slick move cause it can't be proven since it doesn't show up in news. The thing is though that everybody knows it. And yet those same people that know this are protecting you now. Please don't insult mine and everyone else's intelligence and claim it's not true.
So if a kingdom receives resources from a willing kingdom during war is it still a 1 vs 1?
Or is it just a 1 vs 1 cause it's FS? or is it still a 1 vs 1 cause there is no real proof?

as iampost stated it's not the single incident that determines right from wrong it's a pattern. A pattern that should be clearly visible to all but sadly apparently isn't.

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Originally Posted by Korp

I'm wondering how this got to 31:pages. Bringing up FS is like beating a dead horse..

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tell them to stop bullying and we won't need 31 pages


As long as the people in this forum think that they rule this world of Utopia the game will keep on dying. You can blame the devs all you want but that isn't what makes people quit. The actions and inactions of this community is what is to blame. I was one of the ones that just sat quiet for a long time. So I am to blame as much as you and you, until I stood up for what I know is right. Not right for me, accepting those terms would have been the easy way out, right for the game and for the community.

It was me whom contacted anri as he was my ex leader/boss based on trust, but hell no i did not organise any GBs to FS as i only personally asked for Anri for help. If you wanna sell it out that way, get over yourself. You are just licking people's boot to secure your top NAP for your lands. And now he blocks me on whatsapp lol the moment i asked him why spread the news of arranging gbs on FS and also clarified others razed due to the bottomfeed issues and he blocks. Yes i did tell him there are some kds doing so, and is because the other kingdoms whom are doing so are seeking for revenge. He did reply maybe some others are interested and i said yess of course initially but it was due to revenge which i guess he did not know cause our conversations were short and i did not need to eexplain so detailed to him

It's a server war now?? LOL excitement

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

tell them to stop bullying and we won't need 31 pages


As long as the people in this forum think that they rule this world of Utopia the game will keep on dying. You can blame the devs all you want but that isn't what makes people quit. The actions and inactions of this community is what is to blame. I was one of the ones that just sat quiet for a long time. So I am to blame as much as you and you, until I stood up for what I know is right. Not right for me, accepting those terms would have been the easy way out, right for the game and for the community.

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Action thats what speaks, people just yapping in the forums are people who cant do. So, rather than arguing in the forum, use your ingame actions do the talking.

friends makes it different, i guess.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Action thats what speaks, people just yapping in the forums are people who cant do. So, rather than arguing in the forum, use your ingame actions do the talking.

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Well in that respect he deserves credit more than me and others. He's taking action despite having the odds stacked so heavily against him.

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

you'll have to provide evidence cause obviously FS isn't willing to respond properly.

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They have not responded at all, that speaks volumes in it of itself.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Action thats what speaks, people just yapping in the forums are people who cant do. So, rather than arguing in the forum, use your ingame actions do the talking.

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Well ss took action to max meter fs after eating two waves from them. And apparently it was the wrong choice because the skds think we shouldn't have responded to their power play.

no markers, people don't like you organizing a gb. If you had just warred straight, no one would have done a thing.

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Originally Posted by Sheister

no markers, people don't like you organizing a gb. If you had just warred straight, no one would have done a thing.

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Again we did not organize a gb. The only proof is some new prov talking to anri like old kd mates do, your skds actions are unjustified. Especially when they all 3 have already stated they doing this themselves and feint has specifically stated he wants me to suffer. So have you considered actual facts instead of your circle jerk? Honestly i would 100% love to have organized this all and made a great time. But sadly I am being setup

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Originally Posted by Sheister

no markers, people don't like you organizing a gb. If you had just warred straight, no one would have done a thing.

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no, SS is warring straight. We are taking hits and that is acceptable because we are hitting into a war. You "disciplining" SS by razing into their war is a crap move.
Y'all are using a mate telling a mate that some kingdoms are hitting into a war as an EXCUSE. If you were real men and women you would fess up.
It would be an ugly truth but at least it would be the truth.

p.s. db allegations are still unanswered. also in case they claim they didn't see this in forums. I made it our kingdom banner and I asked some people to ask Francis directly. There is noooo way he missed it.

I'm reasonable sure FS is not responding because when they actually did try to have a dialog, you insisted on name calling rather than trying to resolve things. Also, things are a little past reaching a happy diplomatic end, so not much reason to try.


Just a guess though.

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Originally Posted by Palem

I'm reasonable sure FS is not responding because when they actually did try to have a dialog, you insisted on name calling rather than trying to resolve things. Also, things are a little past reaching a happy diplomatic end, so not much reason to try.


Just a guess though.

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Palem is correct, direct from the person who recommended such ;) Isn't it more fun this way anyway? Merry Christmas you time wasters

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Originally Posted by Palem

I'm reasonable sure FS is not responding because when they actually did try to have a dialog, you insisted on name calling rather than trying to resolve things. Also, things are a little past reaching a happy diplomatic end, so not much reason to try.


Just a guess though.

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I did? The people that I recall being banned for namecalling were on the pyro/FS/BB side.

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I'm reasonable sure FS is not responding because when they actually did try to have a dialog, you insisted on name calling rather than trying to resolve things. Also, things are a little past reaching a happy diplomatic end, so not much reason to try.

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Alternative explanation:

FS knows various things they pulled this age are shameful and rather remain silent?

That wasn't too hard to think of...

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Originally Posted by markers

Again we did not organize a gb. The only proof is some new prov talking to anri like old kd mates do, your skds actions are unjustified. Especially when they all 3 have already stated they doing this themselves and feint has specifically stated he wants me to suffer. So have you considered actual facts instead of your circle jerk? Honestly i would 100% love to have organized this all and made a great time. But sadly I am being setup

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res ipsa loquitur

oh my word...
a deal break(mind you I never actually said they did it) is okay as long as it isnt brought forward in a manner that the accused approves of?

I recall y'all stating that a deal break is the worst offense of all...and now all of a sudden tone of type overrides it?

If someone has allegations brought up against them and they refuse to make an appearance that is about like admitting guilt.

If it's not the first time allegations of similar offenses are made chances of conviction rise increasingly.

But not here. Here we hand such a person a prize and call it honor crown.

This situation has come about not through reason but emotion. What more is there to discuss or justify? Let your feelings out, but if there's no expectation of a rational back-and-forth, why post?

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Originally Posted by lampost

I did? The people that I recall being banned for namecalling were on the pyro/FS/BB side.

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Well there's inappropriate name calling, and then there's appropriate name calling (dealbreaker, x-logger, cheater, nub, ect)

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Originally Posted by Palem

I'm reasonable sure FS is not responding because when they actually did try to have a dialog, you insisted on name calling rather than trying to resolve things. Also, things are a little past reaching a happy diplomatic end, so not much reason to try.


Just a guess though.

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For a TS fanboy you are surprisingly acute Palem :)

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Originally Posted by silverfox

Act like a fool, get treat like a fool.

Funny how you claim now that it's "obvious" that SS must be organizing a GB on FS, yet last age when you waved ED (about 2 ticks after FS sent us a message saying "It'd be a shame if you were a good target for another KD") it had nothing to do with FS, at least until you shared your WA messages showing it was organised by your alliance. Oh right but you're not actually an alliance, I mean you just GBed ABS last age together, ED last age together and now SS together but you're not actually in anyway allied and have no ties. Being allied doesn't mean you can't war each other or have to publicly state anything either.

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Not sure what your point is really. Lol. You just reinforced what I said. So thanks.

People associate people as allies because of what they do and helping the other when in need. Does the SS situation now fill both boxes? Check.

If you want not to be mistaken as allies then don't act like one. Those so called kds who decided to randomly get together to PK FS's provinces in this eoa war should know they'll look like allies and coordinated acts before doing it if they had issues being seen as allies.

okay :) I was accused, tried and convicted. Like I said, may as well do all those things now.

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Originally Posted by Palem

I'm reasonable sure FS is not responding because when they actually did try to have a dialog, you insisted on name calling rather than trying to resolve things. Also, things are a little past reaching a happy diplomatic end, so not much reason to try.


Just a guess though.

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Originally Posted by citadela01

For a TS fanboy you are surprisingly acute Palem :)

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Next time just remember fs is always in the right. Why are ppl trying to question them?

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Originally Posted by Kosai

Next time just remember fs is always in the right. Why are ppl trying to question them?

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so obtuse

Ba dum tss