Canadian Rebellion VS Pandas

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14-03-2016, 09:22
protector

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aranfein

P's. I never said anything about b2b as I doubt CR would do a tactical wd in any event.. Likely if panda did the tactical wd it would be CR wins age (with merchant pump + acres), unless Panda secured an insane amount of acres beforehand.

Avian troops are so cheap that being merchant isn't super needed. Them also being WH doubling their honor bonus doesn't make the income gap (overall) between them and human/mercs that severe. Both kingdoms are more likely short on soldiers than short on GC if a b2b would occur. Pretty hard to repop/redraft deep in 96h.

Looks like a good fight from the outside.
14-03-2016, 09:28
protector

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aranfein

Flogger none of CRs cows are ToG'ers? and wouldnt the added acre bonus give CR some laverage on the ToG front in higher core? (how big is CR core?), people make it sound like CR got 6/7 cows, though Zauper said 4? and with 2 cows seemingly down/mid of going down, does the core merchant core in CR even have a chance vs Panda's Avians? Sounds like the battle of little big horn down there.

The cows in CR all have ToG iirc

Here's both KD pages (I think you can also "follow" the war via munk's tf):

CR:

Bird Abuse Alert (##:##) Kingdom Analysis
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v2.22 Alpha 1]

** Statistics **
Provinces in Kingdom: 25
Total Land: 166,283 Acres (Average: 6,651 Acres)
Total Networth: 28,593,365gc (Average: 1,143,735gc)
Average Networth per Acre: 171.96gc

** Dragon **
Dragon Cost: 35,741,706gc
Dragon Send Range: 22,874,692gc - 35,741,706gc

** Relations **
Attitude towards/from (##:##): Non Aggression Pact
Stance: Normal (no bonuses)
War History: 0 Wars

** Races **
Human: 14 (56%)
Avian: 4 (16%)
Halfling: 3 (12%)
Dwarf: 2 (8%)
Faery: 2 (8%)

** Land **
1. Raucous Rainbow [DW] - 19,970 Acres (12%)
2. Abnormal Summit [DW] - 19,164 Acres (11.5%)
3. The potato chronicles [HU] - 18,734 Acres (11.3%)
4. Goldy Goldy [HU] - 15,532 Acres (9.3%)
5. Boo [HU] - 11,685 Acres (7%)
6. sheep shaun [HU] - 10,029 Acres (6%)
7. Trollbunden [HU] - 9,459 Acres (5.7%)
8. tweetheart [AV] - 8,045 Acres (4.8%)
9. Special K [HU] - 7,671 Acres (4.6%)
10. gnar [HU] - 6,298 Acres (3.8%)
11. Superman [FA] - 4,484 Acres (2.7%)
12. Your Ken can kiss my Barbie [FA] - 3,891 Acres (2.3%)
13. Delphinapterus leucas [HA] - 3,823 Acres (2.3%)
14. Selina Kyle [HA] - 3,805 Acres (2.3%)
15. Kim Jong Il [AV] - 3,287 Acres (2%)
16. Kylo Ren [HU] - 3,052 Acres (1.8%)
17. Scary Scary [HA] - 3,026 Acres (1.8%)
18. Break the silence [HU] - 2,928 Acres (1.8%)
19. Chemistry [HU] - 2,686 Acres (1.6%)
20. Blue Falcon [AV] - 2,517 Acres (1.5%)
21. Nirvash [HU] - 2,024 Acres (1.2%)
22. homo sapiens [HU] - 1,874 Acres (1.1%)
23. OPEC [HU] - 879 Acres (0.5%)
24. HowMayIAssistYou [HU] - 733 Acres (0.4%)
25. Darla [AV] - 687 Acres (0.4%)

** Networth **
1. Abnormal Summit [DW] - 3,570,224gc (12.5%)
2. Raucous Rainbow [DW] - 3,497,813gc (12.2%)
3. The potato chronicles [HU] - 3,045,476gc (10.7%)
4. Goldy Goldy [HU] - 2,671,737gc (9.3%)
5. Boo [HU] - 1,415,627gc (5%)
6. sheep shaun [HU] - 1,363,691gc (4.8%)
7. Trollbunden [HU] - 1,286,171gc (4.5%)
8. Special K [HU] - 1,107,807gc (3.9%)
9. Selina Kyle [HA] - 981,055gc (3.4%)
10. tweetheart [AV] - 964,494gc (3.4%)
11. gnar [HU] - 961,947gc (3.4%)
12. Delphinapterus leucas [HA] - 957,643gc (3.3%)
13. Superman [FA] - 936,491gc (3.3%)
14. Your Ken can kiss my Barbie [FA] - 875,995gc (3.1%)
15. Scary Scary [HA] - 838,828gc (2.9%)
16. homo sapiens [HU] - 616,569gc (2.2%)
17. Chemistry [HU] - 509,836gc (1.8%)
18. Kylo Ren [HU] - 489,526gc (1.7%)
19. Break the silence [HU] - 485,379gc (1.7%)
20. Blue Falcon [AV] - 471,249gc (1.6%)
21. Kim Jong Il [AV] - 458,634gc (1.6%)
22. Nirvash [HU] - 417,572gc (1.5%)
23. OPEC [HU] - 248,461gc (0.9%)
24. HowMayIAssistYou [HU] - 224,634gc (0.8%)
25. Darla [AV] - 196,506gc (0.7%)

** Networth per Acre **
1. homo sapiens [HU] - 329.01gc
2. HowMayIAssistYou [HU] - 306.46gc
3. Darla [AV] - 286.03gc
4. OPEC [HU] - 282.66gc
5. Scary Scary [HA] - 277.21gc
6. Selina Kyle [HA] - 257.83gc
7. Delphinapterus leucas [HA] - 250.5gc
8. Your Ken can kiss my Barbie [FA] - 225.13gc
9. Superman [FA] - 208.85gc
10. Nirvash [HU] - 206.31gc
11. Chemistry [HU] - 189.81gc
12. Blue Falcon [AV] - 187.23gc
13. Abnormal Summit [DW] - 186.3gc
14. Raucous Rainbow [DW] - 175.15gc
15. Goldy Goldy [HU] - 172.02gc
16. Break the silence [HU] - 165.77gc
17. The potato chronicles [HU] - 162.56gc
18. Kylo Ren [HU] - 160.4gc
19. gnar [HU] - 152.74gc
20. Special K [HU] - 144.41gc
21. Kim Jong Il [AV] - 139.53gc
22. sheep shaun [HU] - 135.97gc
22. Trollbunden [HU] - 135.97gc
24. Boo [HU] - 121.15gc
25. tweetheart [AV] - 119.89gc

** Ranks **
1. Raucous Rainbow [DW] - King
2. Superman [FA] - Viscount
2. Your Ken can kiss my Barbie [FA] - Viscountess
2. sheep shaun [HU] - Viscount
2. tweetheart [AV] - Viscountess
2. Special K [HU] - Viscount
2. Trollbunden [HU] - Viscount
2. Break the silence [HU] - Viscount
2. Boo [HU] - Viscountess
10. Scary Scary [HA] - Baron
10. Darla [AV] - Baroness
10. Delphinapterus leucas [HA] - Baron
10. Kylo Ren [HU] - Baron
10. Blue Falcon [AV] - Baron
10. Kim Jong Il [AV] - Baron
10. Chemistry [HU] - Baron
10. The potato chronicles [HU] - Baron
10. Selina Kyle [HA] - Baroness
19. Abnormal Summit [DW] - Lord
19. gnar [HU] - Lord
19. Nirvash [HU] - Lord
19. Goldy Goldy [HU] - Noble Lady
19. HowMayIAssistYou [HU] - Lord
24. OPEC [HU] - Knight
25. homo sapiens [HU] - Peasant

** Miscellaneous **
ONLINE: Superman [FA]
ONLINE: Abnormal Summit [DW]
ONLINE: Your Ken can kiss my Barbie [FA]
ONLINE: Darla [AV]
ONLINE: tweetheart [AV]

And Panda:

Pandamonium (##:##) Kingdom Analysis
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v2.22 Alpha 1]

** Statistics **
Provinces in Kingdom: 25
Total Land: 181,611 Acres (Average: 7,264 Acres)
Total Networth: 27,842,248gc (Average: 1,113,690gc)
Average Networth per Acre: 153.31gc

** Dragon **
Dragon Cost: 34,802,810gc
Dragon Send Range: 22,273,798gc - 34,802,810gc

** Relations **
Attitude towards/from (##:##): Non Aggression Pact
Stance: Normal (no bonuses)
War History: 4 Wars, 4 Wins (100%)

** Races **
Avian: 15 (60%)
Dwarf: 5 (20%)
Faery: 5 (20%)

** Land **
1. Religitard [AV] - 15,542 Acres (8.6%)
2. WantedToBeHuman [DW] - 14,304 Acres (7.9%)
3. Haters gonna HATE [DW] - 13,585 Acres (7.5%)
4. idontsleepthroughalarms [DW] - 12,668 Acres (7%)
5. no sleep for you [DW] - 11,295 Acres (6.2%)
6. candy canes and planes [DW] - 8,997 Acres (5%)
7. Late Bloomer [AV] - 8,818 Acres (4.9%)
8. We Are Legion [FA] - 8,513 Acres (4.7%)
9. Juandissimo Magnifico [FA] - 8,324 Acres (4.6%)
10. Punchbag [AV] - 8,305 Acres (4.6%)
11. Skittles [AV] - 8,081 Acres (4.4%)
12. Oooolala [AV] - 7,772 Acres (4.3%)
13. Robe and Wizard Hat [FA] - 7,482 Acres (4.1%)
14. Fuzakeru na [AV] - 7,303 Acres (4%)
15. Jack The Hammer [FA] - 7,266 Acres (4%)
16. DonPapa [FA] - 7,183 Acres (4%)
17. Gryffud Hillside [AV] - 5,422 Acres (3%)
18. Terminator [AV] - 5,324 Acres (2.9%)
19. We Do NOT Forget [AV] - 3,658 Acres (2%)
20. druglord [AV] - 2,523 Acres (1.4%)
21. White Boy [AV] - 2,520 Acres (1.4%)
22. Deepness in the Sky [AV] - 2,003 Acres (1.1%)
23. Hola [AV] - 1,890 Acres (1%)
24. It Hurts When I PVP [AV] - 1,766 Acres (1%)
25. Tamriel [AV] - 1,067 Acres (0.6%)

** Networth **
1. Haters gonna HATE [DW] - 2,284,470gc (8.2%)
2. WantedToBeHuman [DW] - 2,002,100gc (7.2%)
3. idontsleepthroughalarms [DW] - 1,885,408gc (6.8%)
4. no sleep for you [DW] - 1,826,846gc (6.6%)
5. We Are Legion [FA] - 1,756,698gc (6.3%)
6. Religitard [AV] - 1,654,444gc (5.9%)
7. candy canes and planes [DW] - 1,606,537gc (5.8%)
8. Robe and Wizard Hat [FA] - 1,441,849gc (5.2%)
9. Juandissimo Magnifico [FA] - 1,440,628gc (5.2%)
10. DonPapa [FA] - 1,430,585gc (5.1%)
11. Jack The Hammer [FA] - 1,383,779gc (5%)
12. Punchbag [AV] - 1,011,287gc (3.6%)
13. Late Bloomer [AV] - 975,138gc (3.5%)
14. Skittles [AV] - 960,510gc (3.4%)
15. Fuzakeru na [AV] - 940,603gc (3.4%)
16. Oooolala [AV] - 887,318gc (3.2%)
17. Gryffud Hillside [AV] - 738,901gc (2.7%)
18. Terminator [AV] - 677,729gc (2.4%)
19. We Do NOT Forget [AV] - 651,267gc (2.3%)
20. White Boy [AV] - 484,608gc (1.7%)
21. druglord [AV] - 467,108gc (1.7%)
22. Hola [AV] - 458,223gc (1.6%)
23. Deepness in the Sky [AV] - 326,728gc (1.2%)
24. Tamriel [AV] - 276,829gc (1%)
25. It Hurts When I PVP [AV] - 272,655gc (1%)

** Networth per Acre **
1. Tamriel [AV] - 259.45gc
2. Hola [AV] - 242.45gc
3. We Are Legion [FA] - 206.35gc
4. DonPapa [FA] - 199.16gc
5. Robe and Wizard Hat [FA] - 192.71gc
6. White Boy [AV] - 192.3gc
7. Jack The Hammer [FA] - 190.45gc
8. druglord [AV] - 185.14gc
9. candy canes and planes [DW] - 178.56gc
10. We Do NOT Forget [AV] - 178.04gc
11. Juandissimo Magnifico [FA] - 173.07gc
12. Haters gonna HATE [DW] - 168.16gc
13. Deepness in the Sky [AV] - 163.12gc
14. no sleep for you [DW] - 161.74gc
15. It Hurts When I PVP [AV] - 154.39gc
16. idontsleepthroughalarms [DW] - 148.83gc
17. WantedToBeHuman [DW] - 139.97gc
18. Gryffud Hillside [AV] - 136.28gc
19. Fuzakeru na [AV] - 128.8gc
20. Terminator [AV] - 127.3gc
21. Punchbag [AV] - 121.77gc
22. Skittles [AV] - 118.86gc
23. Oooolala [AV] - 114.17gc
24. Late Bloomer [AV] - 110.58gc
25. Religitard [AV] - 106.45gc

** Ranks **
1. We Are Legion [FA] - King
2. Punchbag [AV] - Marquis
3. DonPapa [FA] - Count
3. Oooolala [AV] - Count
5. Robe and Wizard Hat [FA] - Viscountess
5. Skittles [AV] - Viscount
5. Terminator [AV] - Viscount
5. Fuzakeru na [AV] - Viscountess
5. Late Bloomer [AV] - Viscount
10. Haters gonna HATE [DW] - Baron
10. idontsleepthroughalarms [DW] - Baroness
10. Jack The Hammer [FA] - Baron
10. candy canes and planes [DW] - Baron
10. Juandissimo Magnifico [FA] - Baron
10. It Hurts When I PVP [AV] - Baron
10. White Boy [AV] - Baron
10. Gryffud Hillside [AV] - Baron
10. Religitard [AV] - Baroness
19. Deepness in the Sky [AV] - Lord
19. no sleep for you [DW] - Noble Lady
19. We Do NOT Forget [AV] - Lord
19. druglord [AV] - Lord
19. WantedToBeHuman [DW] - Lord
19. Hola [AV] - Lord
19. Tamriel [AV] - Lord

** Miscellaneous **
ONLINE: Haters gonna HATE [DW]
ONLINE: Punchbag [AV]
ONLINE: Robe and Wizard Hat [FA]
ONLINE: Skittles [AV]
ONLINE: candy canes and planes [DW]
ONLINE: Juandissimo Magnifico [FA]
ONLINE: WantedToBeHuman [DW]
ONLINE: Terminator [AV]
ONLINE: DonPapa [FA]
ONLINE: White Boy [AV]
ONLINE: Oooolala [AV]
ONLINE: Late Bloomer [AV]
14-03-2016, 11:28
Palem

Is protector really using angel?
14-03-2016, 11:36
Bart of Sparta

I also still use angel for science/builds etc. Been using munk for 1.5 month now and I only know like 3 commands (sorry for causing u so much pain blizz!). Only reason I use munk is to know when our armies come back and because I can click faster :D
14-03-2016, 12:14
protector

Quote:

Originally Posted by Palem

Is protector really using angel?

Haters gonna hate
14-03-2016, 12:18
Palem

I legit thought that Angel stopped getting updated and was permanently stuck in "You must get the latest version to continue using!" mode. Meh

Anyway, go Pandas.
14-03-2016, 12:23
Bart of Sparta

Angel is still being updated. Since munk still has quite a lot of inaccuracies I prefer hand calculation and angel for stuff that really matters.
14-03-2016, 12:24
Zapaza

Darla and I still going at it... Though Opec is trying to ruin our fun, guys... It Hurts When I PVP
14-03-2016, 12:47
texn

Wish i could run Angel on OS X. :/
14-03-2016, 15:08
Aranfein

Same texn :)

Thank you Prot, looking good for the honour part on Panda side, though with the troops and the board update, i still think CR looking strong, gone down a fair bit and definitely need to keep their activity up and not miss army home for more then a couple of mins at most.

Are we looking at a 50/50 now? rather then a 75/25? :P
14-03-2016, 15:51
StratOcastle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aranfein

Same texn :)

Thank you Prot, looking good for the honour part on Panda side, though with the troops and the board update, i still think CR looking strong, gone down a fair bit and definitely need to keep their activity up and not miss army home for more then a couple of mins at most.

Are we looking at a 50/50 now? rather then a 75/25? :P

We're looking at a guy that needs an account. This methadone drip isn't cutting it for you: you're hitting the button like Welcome Back Kotter's Horshak on celebrity Jeopardy.

I've been there. Just think up a province name and tie off. You did good this age. You can try quitting age 68.
14-03-2016, 16:54
Aranfein

Haha Strat0, there are a few wars worth following for sure and this is definitely 1 of them, the most annoying part is not being able to see KD pages and whos being chained... Apart from that ive had a lot to see to lately and without having the time to lead, i in all honesty find it boring to play, despite pulling my hair out in frustration sometimes. I think ive been leading too long and taking orders like i did some of last age, had me wishing to assassinate monarch and taking back the monarchy i had given :P
14-03-2016, 16:58
jwuzi

Just make a prov?

Their cows did a few mass on one of our fae mys and a few razes on fat humans
We hit their big avian a few times too

edit:

BREAKING NEWS!!!

After getting bounced like 10ish times,

We have finally bounced them one time!
14-03-2016, 17:23
Tadpole

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aranfein

Haha Strat0, there are a few wars worth following for sure and this is definitely 1 of them, the most annoying part is not being able to see KD pages and whos being chained... Apart from that ive had a lot to see to lately and without having the time to lead, i in all honesty find it boring to play, despite pulling my hair out in frustration sometimes. I think ive been leading too long and taking orders like i did some of last age, had me wishing to assassinate monarch and taking back the monarchy i had given :P

http://tf.umunk.net/#war=2&id1=247&id2=227
14-03-2016, 17:29
Aranfein

Thanks Tadpole.

Jwuzi while making a prov would make sense and makes it a lot easier to follow, I know by heart i wouldnt be able to stay off from playing :)
14-03-2016, 17:38
jwuzi

Make a really really bad prov, like an avian war hero

#ShotsFired

edit: Palem and co now oow learning us :(
14-03-2016, 17:41
Peetah

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwuzi

Make a really really bad prov, like an avian war hero

#ShotsFired

edit: Palem and co now oow learning us :(

#hatersgonnahate

You can always go something boring .... Like human merchant, but that's too mainstream. Gotta stay cool!
14-03-2016, 17:43
flogger

Gonna be an interesting 24h as I think pandas laps them again next wave
14-03-2016, 17:58
jwuzi

Quote:

Originally Posted by Peetah

#hatersgonnahate

You can always go something boring .... Like human merchant, but that's too mainstream. Gotta stay cool!

#LearnToHashTag
#YayFriendlyBanter
#ToGSucks
14-03-2016, 18:03
Palem

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwuzi

edit: Palem and co now oow learning us :(

Why do people always name me? I'm hardly even there lol
14-03-2016, 18:11
Pillz

You should start learning!
14-03-2016, 18:31
Korp

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwuzi

edit: Palem and co now oow learning us :(

We dont discriminate,

We have cancelled our ceasefire with Pandamonium
14-03-2016, 18:34
Anri

Stay out of our war - everyone.

Thanks
14-03-2016, 18:35
Pillz

Won't happen, but you're welcome
14-03-2016, 18:52
MyNameIsMatija

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillz

Won't happen, but you're welcome

sAD
14-03-2016, 19:18
jwuzi

They did some learns on panda's too.

:( I shouldn't have brought it up sorry Anri :(
14-03-2016, 19:19
Cheetzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwuzi

They did some learns on panda's too.

:( I shouldn't have brought it up sorry Anri :(

You know this reflects badly on you jwuzi. Right?
14-03-2016, 19:22
Korp

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cheetzy

You know this reflects badly on you jwuzi. Right?

Why would it reflect badly upon jwuzi?
14-03-2016, 19:33
Loons

Quote:

Originally Posted by jwuzi

Just make a prov?

Their cows did a few mass on one of our fae mys and a few razes on fat humans
We hit their big avian a few times too

edit:

BREAKING NEWS!!!

After getting bounced like 10ish times,

We have finally bounced them one time!

Pandabot > munkbot
14-03-2016, 19:33
Cheetzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Korp

Why would it reflect badly upon jwuzi?

See post #397
14-03-2016, 19:34
Pillz

CR cry much less than Pandas.
Makes me think Pandas are nervous about their lead.
14-03-2016, 19:36
Cheetzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pillz

CR cry much less than Pandas.
Makes me think Pandas are nervous about their lead.

Things to remember... It's just a game. :) CR are still very much on top by far.
14-03-2016, 19:40
SnirpsneR

outside hits ftl
14-03-2016, 20:34
Aranfein

Korp, I believe Jwuzi said in his post earlier that the oow hits reflected badly on Panda, I think it's safe to assume Cheetzy was making a play on that, now Panda gets hit from outside too :)
14-03-2016, 20:47
Godly

Hi all. With regards to the out of war hits, they were obviously expected due to lots of enemies made over the years. This is not pandas doing and shouldn't diminish a potential panda victory. We're working with local leaders to stop as many of them as we can and the monarchs have been very understanding. Let's just drop the subject and continue to enjoy the highlight war of the round.
14-03-2016, 20:56
LoRD_SaMPuaN

Quote:

Originally Posted by Godly

Hi all. With regards to the out of war hits, they were obviously expected due to lots of enemies made over the years. This is not pandas doing and shouldn't diminish a potential panda victory. We're working with local leaders to stop as many of them as we can and the monarchs have been very understanding. Let's just drop the subject and continue to enjoy the highlight war of the round.

who hacked this account?
14-03-2016, 20:56
jwuzi

Godly = BoH confirmed.

No wonder he adores Elit so much
14-03-2016, 20:58
texn

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

who hacked this account?

Was gonna say the same.. damn. Godly mans up!
14-03-2016, 20:59
lampost

Who's been affected more from the outside hits? If its been a couple of learns I guess its no big deal in the bigger scheme of things.
14-03-2016, 20:59
Godly

Quote:

Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

who hacked this account?

No one. There's really nothing that we can do about it other than what we've already been doing. Devoting pages of bickering over a handful of players on here that are attempting to harm us instead of focusing on the great play from both sides is really counterproductive. At the end of the day, competition at this level is what we play for and should be the narrative. Anyone that has ever played with me knows that I'm tough but I'm fair. From the very first attack, I informed everyone in the kingdom that this has nothing to do with Pandas. This is the result of the consequences of playing a war game where you must piss people off on a daily basis by removing their land.

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