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yea right! Nothing celeb about trying to lead a bunch of apes in the top!
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haha celeb lifestyle
yea right! Nothing celeb about trying to lead a bunch of apes in the top!
+1. less of kuhan n more of good inputsQuote:
Originally Posted by bluebear
No I did not. I am not certain that would change my analysis either given that simians seems (absent better intel) to have more stable nwa and conclude from there more stable armies.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluebear
i have to credit them building huge def specs..but we have free leets credits and we just chain those turtling avians back to below 100k def whenever we feel it..they just made their huge wave of acres and we just survived it..and now they're back to chaining our biggies..and most of our chainees are back to mid range hitters again..
and if your wondering about our econ all i can say is great war!
We dropped everyone from 100-150k def to 30-50k def when we chained them from 4-6k acres to 1-2k acres. Most of them regrown but they are still hurt def-wise and they lost the offense to break many of us. Meanwhile we done all of this Sanc continued to LL with their faerys and the orcs more or less kept max gaining.
You need to ask yourself what happens now when we are going to start semi-chains with NM+NS on multiply targets. All i can say is GL. Imo we are strong enough to start getting land and honor to our side despite orcs having elite credits. It does not help much with elite credits if you lose all def.
Its sure is a long war but i seriously think we will get the upper hand here soon. We took down all the important high off/def targets from here on out its a walk in the park to open anyone of them up for quadhits. Just my POV.
Well see
too much emphasis on land and too little on economy in this war from both sides ... as in too much ll's and too few fb's.
The moment it was clear you were both in it for the win and not land you should have stoped growing your casters out of nw range/wpa and secure economy advantagy through depopulation. This war would have been over few days ago it was done early enough.
You dont think sanc taking bank to 18k acres and 3 other faerys from 3.5k acres to 7k+ acres gives them economy and pessies? The only thing that is clear here is that you dont know what you are talking about. There is plenty of reasons to why stocking land is greater then FB. If it were not for Sanc putting those faerys up by LL they would have been hit down all ready and their economy would have been far worse off. And if you dont think we aim to kill pessies then you are dead wrong. Almost every single chain or semi-chain has been to lower their peasants. Your a good joker if you think its easy to stop pessie growth from any of the two KDs. Fireballs is not the key to winning. We have plenty of people doing it but there is not mana to go around when everyone repop as fast as they do with huge acre changes and good quads. And their caster is not oor from very succesfully AW and LL our biggies. And our caster is in very good range to drop their orcs.Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
Its a close war in all categories.
Dont be hating on ppl for disagreeing Anri, growing up faes was arguably the best thinig Sanc could have done I agree, you had plenty mana on the other hand. Elf can depopulate province a day pretty thourougly with thier racials and you have 5 of them ... just saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
Your strat does seems to work pretty well and your core looks in much better shape than their orcs ... but imo if you focused elfs early on fb's you could have wrap this up earlier.
big elves with no wpa can do what?
they could have before they got big and lost wpaQuote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
Anri is actually correct here. It's not that he's disagreeing, it's that your ghetto mentality is wrong, citadela.
I was disagreeing not him to begin with.
All he did was transfered empty acres from orcs who cant keep them in the first place and allowed them to draft and train that much longer. They focus chains on ppl with pezzies and are pleased with result and ignore the fact one elf province can achieve same economical efect with 24hs worth of mana regen as they do with one wave. Only upside to chaining ppl with pezzies is forcing overpop and droping them into no def/tpa area and droping their nw too low to get good gains,but they cant seem to achieve that and orcs are growing back. Fighting quading battle vs orc tacticians at the bottom tier isnt great place to be and you dont want to be there if you can avoid it.
If they hit their pezzie base early enough this never would have lasted this long and they would outtrain them by now.
but whatever ... let just ignore drunken mumblings of a ghetto player pointing out the obvious, scold it with a oneliner and ignore the fact they misused their elves and did noob thing of outgrowing with their hybrids early on w/o capitalizing on their wpa, they copied sanc faes style w/o the benefit of tog option on all those acres. Next time if you wanna play like that you might as well run pure hitter with proper personality and train those wizzies into extra leets. This way they just wasted an oportunity
/me reaches for 33rd bag of popcorn.
Sick post count too
too much text, lack of proper sentence and paragraph structure; didn't read
Your point about fireball is apt. If you play only for the win, peasants win wars and fireball/kidnapping is king.
Simians big provinces get constantlly fireballed; however, they also kidnap peasants back as well as quad-tapping in chains so they regrow peasants at a significant rate. It's a neverending battle where all we can really do is curb their economy, not crush it.
Simians attempted to fireball our cow, on numerous occasions and without success. The cow has a lot more wpa now than it did at war start. They have fireballed our smaller provinces with fair success however. But you can only let acres accumulate on 80 nw/a provinces for so long before you give in to the temptation to take them.
Really appreciate the running commentary on this war
Citadela01
We had no real time to pump wpa in our big elfs and they keep hitting thus growing while receiving AW from Sanctuarys rogues. We had only a short time oow from a 11 day war vs Fratzia when we noticed Sanctuary. We had no time to get your imaginary wpa. It was enough in the start of war like Dorje said. The elfs that did get chained have to concentrate on LL to even survive this.
One could wish there was more tpa/mana in the world. Then there would be no problems.
Dorjes faerys are winning this war right now it feels like. Wich makes me sad. Is a faery merchant bank superior to all other banks. His funding of dragons and his soon 40 mill + TB with his three side kick faerys really aids the KD insanly well. The TBs are getting destroyed but its hard to see people you just took down in def/off/pessies to regrow so quickly. Atm Sanc has the upper hand in the war.
Not entirely because of the faerys, most of Simians been out partying this weekend and its well noticed on activity. lol. Just like last weekend in this war. *sigh*
Who is in favour of utopia shutting down on fridays/saturdays.
Raise your hands!
someone please tell me simians is going to win
Im seeing those people anri buddy XD
im for it. drunk attacks are no good...forget trying to get intel and read the tiny image and then writing crap down in a wet napkin. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Anri
lolQuote:
Originally Posted by E_Boko
I always been in favour of closing down utopia over christmas and new-year as well.
We got waved both on christmas and on new-year by KDs. it sux
And cmon we are party people, 2 weekends in war now. Activity dropped so hard over both weekends and then you have to try and make a come-back on sunday/monday again and its not easy.
A question for Dorje:
How many acres have you landlusted from us in total you think?
good luck to both kd's
Agreed that that'd be a war winning move. It'd be a major psychological blow to Simians that I really don't think they'd recover from. Anri is already showing signs of doubt, so things aren't really looking up for the apes, despite all their talk and bragging :)Quote:
Originally Posted by baka
Raised and trained as a hunter, Jem knows no fear even to the deadliest giants of the land; the dragons. She had lost her village to the great beast before she can remember anything. The day she learned about her past only adds oil to the fire which already burned inside her soul. Driven by this hatred towards the creatures, she vowed to hunt down every dragon alive.
Fus ro dah
On FB, it's pretty simple if you can pull it off. Drop peasants below 5k, what can provinces who have gained **** loads of land do without peasants? And tpa? please after you gain **** loads of land you barely have enough to retrain your army/buildings let alone train thieves to kidnap when your tpa and wpa has dropped significantly. Especially when u have the usual range of spells cast on u. Of course how effective it is depends on the number of people being able to cast fb, if it's just your t/m's then lol you'll obviously have a tough time and you'll have to figure out which spells contribute to your long term goal, whichever method you choose to either obtain a war win or an increase in acres. Static strats are just that, in war nothing's constant, if you're a really good strategist you'll be able to adapt and find holes and weak links in the opponents kd and take advantage of those first.
" If you know the enemy
and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a
hundred battles.
If you know yourself but not the enemy,
for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.
If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will
succumb in every battle."
Takes us 6-7h to send a dragon again id say.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
Thanks for slaying it! 60k+ specs. A waste imo! Keep slaying, we keep sending. :)
Do you really think he's dumb, or why do you keep talking like that? And it's in the forums too... You really do have a lot to learn. As it stands right now, it doesn't really matter if Simians win or lose, you'll still look like a douche. Your leadership would probably be more effective if you showed your kd a good example and gave them something to be proud of. Public image does matter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
I agree with the people who like this thread btw, it's cool to follow the war like this. Good luck to both sides and thanks for keeping us updated.
Luc?
Its perfectly good info for the crowd in here to know how much he sent to slay the dragon and how fast we can send a new dragon.
The cost for slaying is far greater then the cost of sending. So its win win. Yes, i think it was a "dumb" move and they wont do it again.
Why do i have a lot to learn? Dorje was more then happy to flex his muscles how their faery slayed the dragon. I am more then happy to provide them with a new dragon.
Like i said slaying is far more expensive then sending one and were more then able to send 2-3 dragons daily as merch KD.
You seem to have a problem Luc....
luc, don't mess with the troll king and his monkeys.
Slaying is costlier than sending, plus you lose military population which can take time to replace, draft, and train. Slaying against merchant kingdoms is usually considered bad since they can send another dragon within a wave or so. Of course, that money would go to training anyway.
We slay with our cow as way to bring her (Jem's) economy to bear without the worries of taxation or desertion. However I doubt she can slay faster than their whole kingdom can send dragons.
I'm learning so much.
Well spoken.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
Btw you never told me how much LL you guys did so far? Was Jem 13k acres at war start? And was the other 3 faerys around 3.5k acres??
Slaying at the appropriate time will mean at least a full wave without dragon bonus it will also halt the runaways growth and stump aid to provinces, depending on the situation for eg: a few chained provinces in dire need of aid or provinces needing the aid to runaway, etc. Also might result in a few bounces depending on the dragon sent, etc.
And they are both right with that quote, "Slaying is costlier than sending, plus you lose military population which can take time to replace, draft, and train." But like a game of chess....
(287 hours)
-- By UPCF [0.99c] http://www.k3ltic.com/utopia/prince
** Summary **
Total Attacks Made: 1818 (196382 acres)
-- Traditional March: 1596 (184085 acres)
-- Conquest: 20 (1743 acres)
-- Ambush: 129 (10554 acres)
-- Massacres: 10 (6972 people)
-- Learns: 19
-- Failed Attacks: 44 (2.4% failure)
Total Attacks Suffered: 1311 (192016 acres)
-- Traditional March: 1121 (178458 acres)
-- Ambush: 140 (13558 acres)
-- Massacres: 6 (1713 people)
-- Failed Attacks: 44 (3.4% failure)
The Kingdom of (Simians)
Total acres exchanged: +4366 acres (1818/1311)
+7205 acres: eViL PeaNuT (93/5)
+6772 acres: Bad Moon Rising (74/13)
+5783 acres: Resolving Problems (45/5)
+5290 acres: fikon (71/14)
+3966 acres: Cant Handle Kandal (87/6)
+1699 acres: Purple baby dragon (60/0)
+860 acres: Rob N Big (91/42)
+560 acres: Deluxe Edition (41/1)
+369 acres: Gibberish (83/50)
-155 acres: ImDETECTIVEjohnKIMBELL (63/30)
-564 acres: not Millennium Falcon (65/45)
-590 acres: War Field (101/79)
-800 acres: WANNABE (7/3)
-844 acres: comfortably numb (98/65)
-875 acres: twitterfacebookinstagramtumblr (62/60)
-1014 acres: 888 (87/90)
-1437 acres: McHammer (82/55)
-1921 acres: britesmile (88/75)
-2156 acres: Supercooled Rain (95/85)
-2210 acres: I_Randomed-In_A-Noob_kd (0/7)
-2670 acres: Oldie is Goldie (99/85)
-3110 acres: Supreme leader (53/12)
-3127 acres: Elf (69/122)
-3251 acres: Millennium Falcon (94/227)
-3414 acres: ZetaMu (110/135)
The Kingdom of (Sanctuary)
Total acres exchanged: -4366 acres (1311/1818)
+16907 acres: Anonymous province from (5:8) (59/0)
+6360 acres: Jem (39/0)
+2300 acres: Freakazoid (68/40)
+1438 acres: Sonic the Hedgehog (69/50)
+1163 acres: Hammerman (50/41)
+813 acres: X-Men (61/53)
+274 acres: The Smurfs (49/64)
+24 acres: Tinkerbell (6/0)
-8 acres: The Tick (49/68)
-55 acres: Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle (55/53)
-173 acres: Space Cats (62/76)
-274 acres: Camp Candy (43/55)
-317 acres: Felix The Cat (52/66)
-319 acres: She-Ra (12/2)
-407 acres: Winnie the Pooh (0/1)
-450 acres: Count Duckula (42/31)
-1283 acres: Muppet Baby (70/62)
-1754 acres: The Amazing Spiderman (66/147)
-1763 acres: Dexter (71/77)
-2995 acres: Darkwing Duck (36/44)
-3459 acres: Swat Cats (24/39)
-3753 acres: Voltron (58/89)
-3801 acres: Angry Beavers (61/154)
-4135 acres: Scooby Doo Where are You (35/56)
-4201 acres: Ducktales (96/368)
-4498 acres: Bugs Bunny (78/182)
Both sides been doing a ****load of LL. Sanc stocked a lot of acres on 3 faerys.
Sanc is up more in acres then we are. But both kds are up in acres and honor. Rawr!! ;-)
No idea really. 10-15k in total i guess. How much have you ll'd?Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
I think we have done LL maybe 5k acres. (unsure)Quote:
Originally Posted by jdorje
It makes sense since Sanc started conflict on 89k acres and Simians on 85k acres. We are still 85k acres and you are 97k acres.
Not counting incoming acres or anything.
** Summary **
Total attacks made: 1311 (196,292 acres)
-- Traditional march: 1,095 (182,734 acres)
-- Ambush: 140 (13,558 acres)
-- Conquest: 26 (1,863 acres)
-- Massacre: 6 (1,713 population)
-- Failed: 44 (3.4% failure)
-- Uniques: 609
Total attacks suffered: 1,818 (186,847 acres)
-- Traditional march: 1,616 (176,293 acres)
-- Ambush: 129 (10,554 acres)
-- Massacre: 10 (6,972 population)
-- Learn: 19
-- Failed: 44 (2.4% failure)
-- Uniques: 628