ED Vs PewPew

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Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter

So you did get double teamed in a vital moment of the age when you were on top and lost the crown cause of it? Cause there is a double hostile and a double hostile. We got 3 wars in a row with Absalom kds +2 weeks hostile. Did you?

I didn't say your crown doesn't count. Contrary to many other ppl. I just say stop to ppl that throw 2 crowns for 30 ages as an argument against a kd with 3 ages in crown fight, that got **** played twice. Also not to mention that we got people with enough crowns behind them in the kd to just make that comparison irrelevant (i do not include myself).

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Obviously we didnt lose the crown due to a double hostile, if we had we wouldnt have won that age now would we? Just because the double hostile didnt cost us the age doesnt make it any less real...

As for people with plenty of crowns in your KD. So what? You could have Sid and YF playing in AMA and it wouldnt make your first statment that i quoted (and my reason for posting in this thread) any less void.

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Originally Posted by Tedurur

lol? Not trying to slag anyone but, with well over 100k players the competition was way stiffer back then. We won that crown despite (or should I say thanks to) getting double teamed that age. So yeah, it was a war age for us as well. We were also #1 nw/land for pretty much the whole age, long before the alliance **** started. As for the honor crown, guess I cant say much about that one since I stoped leading and playing in ED (and utopia) shortly after the NW/land win

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There never were 100k people in the game, the overwhelming majority of those accounts were farms or somebody's multies. But yes the competition was stiffer back then.

just let the 2 teams war and get on with their business and we can congrat ED on the win later.

hehe he said stiffer.

An unknown province from Evil Dragons WAR (6:37) invaded No matter our sorrow (5:5) and captured 8 acres of land.


This is how intense this war is!!! Every hit counts!!!!

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Originally Posted by Tedurur

Obviously we didnt lose the crown due to a double hostile, if we had we wouldnt have won that age now would we? Just because the double hostile didn't cost us the age doesnt make it any less real...

As for people with plenty of crowns in your KD. So what? You could have Sid and YF playing in AMA and it wouldnt make your first statment that i quoted (and my reason for posting in this thread) any less void.

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You really thought I was saying you lost the crown? :D
As for the other stuff. You didn't say anything about the circumstances around your nor commented our double hostile. We had 3 kds "gang bang" us and it was even beneficial for us. On the other hand we had 1 on 1 wars with Sanctuary and Havoc. If you see things only black and white and have no critical thinking whatsoever you can say that gang bang on a kd is way more damaging than 1 on 1 war. Of course we all know it is not the same. We fought b2b 3 wars against top kds from the top alliance and the time. It was obvious 2vs1. All parties eventually confirmed it. We ended in an EoA hostile. I really want to see a comparison of the damage you received during your double hostile and its duration. Then I might even get what your arguments are.

As for the crowns of the players I will say it again as it looks it is hard to you to grasp the idea. When somebody says "boo AMA you are crap, having no crowns" and then use as an argument 2 crowns in 30+ ages history. Then continue to act as if they know how to win crowns and we don't. I simply answer with 2 counter arguments:

- ED won 2 crowns in 30+ ages
- AMA has played for crowning 3 ages (including the present) we were N1 contender 90% of the time and we lost 2 crowns because of double team ABsalom and Pewpew giving SWEA 150k acres. I dare you to name at least 2 ages when ED lost crowns due to dirty play of such proportions. Also state the records of ED for their first 5 ages in existence. (that with all the respect towards ED. I do this cause of the 0 respect we receive). The total amount of crowns among our players is way above yours. Not that it matters in general. But at least don't pretend to be the better player when it comes to crowning.

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As for the crowns of the players I will say it again as it looks it is hard to you to grasp the idea. When somebody says "boo AMA you are crap, having no crowns" and then use as an argument 2 crowns in 30+ ages history. Then continue to act as if they know how to win crowns and we don't. I simply answer with 2 counter arguments:

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Its called mocking Drug chill a bit :) YOu're counter argument is what? Telling that Tedurer didnt get doubled hostiled while he just wrote in the post you reply to that he did?

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The total amount of crowns among our players is way above yours. Not that it matters in general. But at least don't pretend to be the better player when it comes to crowning.

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You're such a simpleton, Ted hasnt bashed AMA at all so why are you jumping at him for?

Hmmm... I think it's time to summon Anri and make it all abt Simians imo ;)

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Originally Posted by Jazen

An unknown province from Evil Dragons WAR (ED) invaded No matter our sorrow (Pew Pew) and captured 8 acres of land.


This is how intense this war is!!! Every hit counts!!!!

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Pro hit. Ano for all grabs over 1 acres!

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Originally Posted by Drug

Hmmm... I think it's time to summon Anri and make it all abt Simians imo ;)

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That won't work, have you forgotten already that PewPew is the new Simians?

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Originally Posted by Tedurur

Im sorry but wtf are you talking about? We (ED when we won nw/land) did indeed get doubled teamed. Did you even play back then?

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+1. It is interesting when you explain to newer players that its possible you may have went through the things they have many times lol...

Korp when I say "you" most of the time it is you = all people that bash AMA. Not him directly. It is easy to follow if you read the comments and follow the line of my argumentation.

PS Sure, the new players don't get it that every double hostile is the same.

Could you kids just try to act like the top kingdoms you like to boost about you are (ama, ej, ed, pew) its pretty embaresing to read how many of your players try so hard to boost your own kingdom but end up sounding so danm lame.

This is a real war to other have been proven, if you got proof you can msg bishop, what elit and others think they know or do not think they know is just speculation.

Good luck with the war both kingdoms hope we manage to come a cross you later in the age for some of the same fun.

(disclaim i dont talk about everyone just some players)

Show a lil class plz.

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Originally Posted by Lurking Ghost

It really doesn't matter, the problem is that you put yourself as the guardians of ethics here, while making dirty agreements behind ppl backs, and deny it allthough it's so obvious. Many ppl in our kd respect AMA players, but they dislike Elit and Proteus for obvious reasons. And the criticizm wasn't aimed at an average AMA player.
A good example last set, you made deals with kd that if PewPew waves a kd, AMA gets to wave for the acres too, it's lame like hell. (And those deals were made long before any so called "backstabbing" by your allies took place)

And now you try to dictate what is a real war and what's not.

What's most disturbing is that it took you 9 days to get an advantage, because your leadership made poor decisions, and now you think we give ED "slack", which is completely untrue and just lame. It was your bad play that kept you in war for 9 days !

You should take a look at your leadership because obviously they can explain all their wrong decisions on some other factors, as PewPew or some other non existent problems.

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First of all the reason many people dont respect your kingdom is because your play hasn't merited it. After all what have you done? You haven't crowned. You haven't beaten the beat kingdoms in the game. But that's fine not everyone can be good but on top of that you play dirty as hell and hypocritical too. You vulture others but whine when you get vultured. You break deals. You farm out intentionally to shape charts.

As for us being in war with you for 9 days, that was entirely your doing. You were either too n00b to realize that you'd never get a WW because we had control of the fight the entire time or you were too stubborn to WD because you'd be butthurt that a better kingdom beat you. Regardless you warring us for 9 days massively helped us by letting us build huge unbreakables. Ed was just a lame ghetto that wanted to vulture because they thought theyd win but they failed horribly and still managed to lose. If a kingdom like BB or Rage were to vulture, AMA would have lost.

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Originally Posted by Lurking Ghost

Well all I can say, is that there were no plans to deny your crown or anything for over 2/3rds of the set. Even though there was a frustration over you actions. But after a while we realized that no matter what we did, everything seemed set up.
So yeah ppl got tired and their focus was to deny you crown. What's intresting is that at least 3 other kds felt the same way. You can say whatever you want, but that's reality. It's a fatal misstake from Elit, he did everything to stay ahead of everyone no matter the cost of allies, nor relations between other kingdoms. It ended up backfiring in an way that he couldn't even imagine.



Our goal is clear, we will do what is possible within the game rules to achieve our goals.
Why do you think Proteus is so disliked by so many ? Try guessing.

I had no opinion about him until 2 sets ago, I only knew he was in a successful kd (rage). then I learned not to trust him with anything and that he twists everything both verbal and written agreements.
And I also realized he is big fake. He only shows up when things are good(winning) takes credit, and is gone missing when things go bad (loosing), tons of excuses that he doesn't have time etc.
I wonder how You tolerate that, he did the same thing in the war against PewPew, it was clear that someone else was in charge after 48 hrs.




You call this a FW, you call the war last set FW. To me it's obvious. Including yourself. And you have now quite many posts about our strategy and what we should do and what we should not.
Thing is, ED play this better than you do, and therefor we can't use exactly the same strategy as we did the war against you. You fail to see that. Your leadership has really blinded you.
We wanna war, and we wanna war similar kingdoms. (We don't like hitting much weaker kingdoms but we will do that if it is needed)




Nobody gets free farm. And you didn't get doubled.
When our kd was formed, it had a purpose, and one of the purposes was to remove the the biggest kingdoms "bullying" rights.
Just because you re big and nasty, you won't get your acres for free from us.

And if more kingdoms would fight back, this game would be more intresting.



No, you re really wrong there. We have no "reasons" to be against you. Actually we were minding our own buissnes and had not any intentions of warring you, screwing you over or anything like that. We know that you wanted the crown, and we know that we didn't. So go ahead, but you couldn't resist proving some kind of a point.
And you proved it, you won against us, still you re unhappy, so my question is: What's wrong with you ?

You have a leadership that invests a lot of time to make us look bad on forums (especially Proteus), and deliberatly spreading rumors and statements that go all the way from cheating to fakewarring. You expect us to just take it ?

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Again more n00b talk from a n00b. Do you have tracker on me that shows when I play and when I dont? Why do you always try to put me in some Bs situation? In war vs pewpew I played whole time, in war vs ed I was on sitting due to work travel. Last age i wasnt playing/leading. The previous age I was playing/leading. It's not so hard, stop trying to make stuff up about which you are ignorant.