BB vs PewPew

Gl&hf

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Originally Posted by makeo

That's not a cow though is it?

That's "just" a province that starts ub? A cow is, to this nub, of such size it can not broken with ops easily due to size difference and defensive ability, can't be hit, but can hit others while still having an econ.

That's right, yar?

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A cow is just an overgrown province usually several times larger than the rest of the kingdom. A good played cow is able to defend himself against thievery/magic pretty good. Whether that cow has economy left or not, purely depends what fights it enters. In a cow v cow battle, none of the cows might have an economy left.

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Originally Posted by makeo

That's not a cow though is it?

That's "just" a province that starts ub? A cow is, to this nub, of such size it can not broken with ops easily due to size difference and defensive ability, can't be hit, but can hit others while still having an econ.

That's right, yar?

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With current mechancs a cow is most likely only going to be ~3x bigger then the larger half of the core. A cow is also usually fighting other cows unless you are bashing ghettoes. You can definitally put up a cow that is oppable as even if you are 4-5x bigger then a t/m if you have 2 tpa/wpa you're going to eat a lot of ops

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Originally Posted by goodz

With current mechancs a cow is most likely only going to be ~3x bigger then the larger half of the core. A cow is also usually fighting other cows unless you are bashing ghettoes. You can definitally put up a cow that is oppable as even if you are 4-5x bigger then a t/m if you have 2 tpa/wpa you're going to eat a lot of ops

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*than
*definitely

And if your cow is oppable by t/m's you're not doing it right.

I assume that's ryans province. What a waste of an effort to re-explore him. At least he's not starving! Let me guess when the going gets tough ryan goes on vacation, where is he this time ?

Money: 0gc (68,793gc daily income)
Food: 320,753 bushels
Peasants: 24,525 (84% Building Efficiency)
Trade Balance: -13,000,696gc (13.2% tax rate)

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12 minutes old yeh

Update?

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Originally Posted by MrCurious

Update?

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Judging by the two SoTs I just saw, one a few h old and one just a few minutes old one of PewPews cows lost like 150k troops to 15-16 bounces by BB. And cows got around 25% hosps too according to surveys.

Guess Sheister was right when he said bouncing is way to overpowered when it doesnt add to the meter like a normal hit does.

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Originally Posted by Shai

Guess Sheister was right when he said bouncing is way to overpowered when it doesnt add to the meter like a normal hit does.

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I think every bounce need to add 1 point to meter.

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BB have orc with 25% extra kills so this make sense for them to use it. Still kinda lame tactic used many times from different kds.

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For example 2 ages ago Ryan used it from his ghetto ED and its how he won prov. This age he get same. So its good if he can see it from both sides.

Bounce is way OP seeing the damage done

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Originally Posted by Elit

I think every bounce need to add 1 point to meter.

p.s.
BB have orc with 25% extra kills so this make sense for them to use it. Still kinda lame tactic used many times from different kds.

p.s.2
For example 2 ages ago Ryan used it from his ghetto ED and its how he won prov. This age he get same. So its good if he can see it from both sides.

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Yeah its good strategy from BB to use an emerald dragon and orc losses. add pitfalls and it can be even worse.

But it is waaay to overpowered and open to abuse. As u said, each bounce need to add one point to the meter.

If pew cows are being owned so hard in hostile, how feasible is it this will even go to war?
I mean, it might be less painful if pew just gave acres for a CF, if that is even still a possibility. They stand to loose cows big time by the looks of it.

Pretty much why we chose orc warriors, it's 40% extra off the bat plus emerald plus BG plus PF.

It can definitely be countered, as evidenced by our faeries who retrained most of their def after getting bounced. Plus, bounces don't give acres, so enemy kd can always come out and get a free wave. Worst case bounce back if you don't have another idea of what to do.

However, when you go into a conflict with no money no troops and -13M tb, you're dead man walking. They didn't do any substantial counter and have no money, so we did it again. 2 banks down 30-40% def and no real money to retrain. Waiting on their response

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Originally Posted by Shai

Judging by the two SoTs I just saw, one a few h old and one just a few minutes old one of PewPews cows lost like 150k troops to 15-16 bounces by BB. And cows got around 25% hosps too according to surveys.

Guess Sheister was right when he said bouncing is way to overpowered when it doesnt add to the meter like a normal hit does.

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We haven't killed 150k troops with 15-16 bounces. We killed a lot, but far from "150k with 16 bounces". (they had ~220k and ~240k total troops -dspec+elites- on their cows)
Mayor has 18% hospitals, Chancellor 20%