High homes = bad

gojete

I have won 13 wars in a row, I have been a successful monarch of a successful kingdom.

The number of actual elite players in the game is substantially lower these days than it was a few calendar years ago. That said, there still are a bunch of us out here. And having played this game since its earliest ages, I have to tell you a building strat that heavy on homes isn't going to work when you run into real experienced and competent players. It has nothing to do with math or even spreadsheets. While they are the basic gravity of Utopia, knowing what to do, why to do it, and when to do it as a player in a competent kingdom is what makes taking apart a 50% homes province a fairly simple process. It would be harder to dismantle a total noobie rainbow strat province than it would be to take apart the 50% homes province.

A lot of the best players arent even in superkingdoms or alliance kingdoms these days and arent even trying to get to the top of the charts. We are all in our 30's & 40's now with real lives and real concerns. Yet we keep playing Utopia because of the bonds in the game that have been forged over years. Heck last age we had more babies born in our kingdom than wars were fought and we still wound up in the top 50 for both land and networth. Could we do better? Yep we sure could. A lot of the "top" kingdoms are literally just very dedicated players lead by some decent monarchs. They benefit from the fact that many players are no where near as good as the average players from half a decade ago. Bring back that talent pool today and you would be utterly destroyed if you played a 50% homes strat.

Back in the day, there were a few Ages where people attempted to have really high home builds. And they got slaughtered. What people learned in the aftermath of those ages was that just because it looks good in a simulator or on a spread sheet, it doesn't work in real time on Utopia. Can you get away with that strat today? Possibly. But that has more to do with the current average skill level of the players. If you ran into a kingdom made up of veterans who have forgotten more about Utopia than you have even learned, you would more than likely get a first hand experience as to why you DON'T run 50% homes.

Your stance on this theory regarding homes is similar to our kingdom's current war where a noob ghetto running all attackers with limited t/m capacity mistakenly decided to war with us. They are currently learning why running a 0.5 WPA & 0.5 TPA as a kingdom strat is suicidal against a mix of veteran uber geeks that play with a very high coordination and use an entire resource pool to grind them into the dirt. Even though they were certain of victory at the start and were boasting how much they were destroying us. It is to there misfortune that almost all our players have been playing since the earliest ages of Utopia. most of us have been playing since Age 4.

So I wish you good luck in running your 50% homes strategy and hope that you don't blunder into a kingdom like mine where we already know how to tear a province like yours apart because we learned how to around Age 12.

hmm, I keep checking my PM's and still no location from gojete...

Oh, and for the record, I already have your loc. Actually, I've had multiple people give me it lol. I just would like you to man up and and give me your location, just like I manned up and gave you mine.

You really aren't saving yourself any "beatings" by trying to hide your loc from me.

Goj I will have you know that my feelings are deeply hurt by your words. I do expect a formal apology.

Jesus christ. I have had a lot of scotch and all I see are posts that have way too many words in them for a free online game. WTF will you people let this thread die yet?

I want to see the hermit King's location too.

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Originally Posted by gojete

The formulas and scripts , codes, etc , call it what you want , is what the game is based on, not on the excel sheets and the windows calculator where this people run their imaginary numbers. Debating imaginary numbers is not my thing, im a man of action . And high homes have been proved to work, we founght against some of the best out of top 100 kds we could fight .

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I randomly got into an out of t100 rankings KD and brought them into the top 60 in that very age I returned to play Utopia and started learning from scratch. As a matter of fact, strategies are only extensively applied when you are around t50 or so.

That's how effective using the right strategy can be. We weren't even aiming for the charts, but when you're competent and experienced, you do not even have to 'try' to get charted in t100. You just need to play the way you do and you will eventually land there whether or not you want it. Truth is 80%(or more) of the so called 'charters' are warring KDs. That speaks volumes if you haven't even made it there yet when the bottom 20 of t100 frequently consisted of half-assed semi active KDs.

15 pages about this! 15!!!!!

Good job guys, this is EPIC :)

lol. keep on posting gojete!

redskull i was looking forward to warrying ordray and palems kd and other pl that have approached me with the intention of warrying, it would be the best thing , then other noob kds like spamely and other ppl have also pmed me for war . Id give it a shot to war your kd too , but im not in my old kd anymore , im in a new one, and im not even the monarch , this is why i cant tell you, yes lets war , i have no control over it.

Im pretty sure everything you say might be true , but then again, what im always saying is that high homes works against most ppl in utopia not all people. And kds in the top 50 and that are all veterans or whatever, are very rare.

So thats why im recommending high homes for the player who has had problems with his province for a while, and never finds the income to train army, and it takes him too long to be ready for war, and after war it takes him too long to recover and stuff.

There are hundreds of ppl who have this problems , and building 45% homes will solve them pretty quickly .
I dont think there should be the need for ppl to have played singe age 1 or whatever to have fun, if someone joins the game and has 1 age and tries 45% homes and it works for him and hes happy what is it to you?

Again the only downside of high homes, is if you , like i said before, end up warrying a kd that is very good and stuff, and that has been on for 10 years and whatever what not . Otherwise high homes will work wonders against 85% of the players in utopia.


I know you guys know a million strat and this and that and whatever , but its obvious that most ppl in the server dont know this things and really dont have the time to know them, so thats why i say high homes is a superior strategy , because it works for almost everyone, it delivers and so on.

Im not saying everyone should do it, or everyone should play like this . Im just saying again, if you are tired of your ****ty province, try high homes and see instant results.

You can either join mirc and talk hours endlessly getting tips from pros and trying to fix your province over the course of ages , or you can instantly get a kick ass province , you choose.

Spammely it gives me great satisfaction that your feelings have been hurt . But you have to wonder, why did they get hurt for ? What is it that got hurt ? Who is hurting ?
Who is who? who is hurt ?

djsteddy thats so true about the charts and playing the game. In my second age in utopia, having played my first age for 3 weeks, anyway in the second one i monarched a kd into the top 50 and 6 war wins in a row with almost no experience of the game , i did read the guide and all that but basically it was just by applying strategies and concepts from many other games that i had played before. Comparing to other games in utopia is really simple to beat up on most kds . Not simple as in "easy" but as in , with proper strat knowledge one can do fairly good here .

If this is someone first strategy game then id recommend playing other games as well cause if all the strategy you are going to learn comes from playing this game youll end up pretty dumb in strategy .

there is an edit button, please use it instead of triple posting.

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Originally Posted by gojete

...I know you guys know a million strat and this and that and whatever , but its obvious that most ppl in the server dont know this things...

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It's not quite a million but this is why this board is here but there are idiots around that recommend strategies that only work in very limited cases and strats you yourself gojete don't use.

Twice bishop has looked at your prov and twice you haven't had a single home care to explain?

Alex i dont know whats wrong with your understanding capabilities , it seems that your brain is rather limited, i think this is so because your mind is closed to new ideas .

How many times have i said and proven that high homes work great in the ghetto which is more than 80% of the kingdoms in utopia? If been able to compete against 80% players is limited to you ., then i dont know whats wrong with your understanding ?

What is wrong with you man? A trategy works against 80% players and is very limited?

BIshop always watches my province when i have no homes. Right when i got ordrays intel i was running 45% homes . And right when the war was over, i switched into 70% guilds to do a super wiz pump . My BE is now down to 131% this sucks.


Someone else commented before that , for him it takes 3 days to recover after the war is over. For most ppl in the ghetto it takes like 5 days when they come out fat. And most players are very frustrated about this things. IF you properly use high homes, you wont have this problems.

I dont see why you call my strategy an idiot strategy alex when it works great against most ppl .

It is quite obvious from playing in the ghetto and having warred 13 war wins in a row and having 13 more conflicts or more that didnt lead to war, that i found a way to beat a lot of people.
It was not just me, most ppl in my kd are really good. Of course in your eyes they are not "good" they are 7 year olds, and dogs and coolers and inferior, but in my eyes and the eyes of t he 13 kds we beat, we are good.

And watching how my strats and the team work of the kd has deafeated so many enemies throughout the ages, this is why im giving my advice, because all im saying has already been tested and it works.

And after all this ages that you have been giving advice in the boards, the ghetto is the same. Your top kd strategies and builds do not work well in the ghetto, high homes is superior strat for the ghetto player that wants the most fun.

You have all failed to make the gameplay of utopia higher in your 10 years playing the game, you are all a failure and a decaying rottening corpse that is nothing that a walking fossil .
You sirs , have failed utopia and its community with your bad advices which have brought nothing than 85% of the kds in utopia being called "bad" and "miserable" and "ghettos" .

And in your view , people are a failure , because they do not play like you do, nor do they want to , because your way of playing is decadent and inferior.

Let the age of the high homes begin , a new reign of warfare and butchering, in which the ghettos will raise with their high homes kingdoms and war each other towards oblivon, and recover faster, and train their province faster than without homes, and the carnage will follow for days.
Let the high homes kingdoms be born and face each other in the battlefield !!

And in the lurky shadows of the "good kds" let this good players remain in their exile , fighting against each other, fighting the same ppl age after age for 10 years more to come, as they have done so far, their exclusive club of " good players " means nothing to us!!

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try that again in 10 lines or less or i wont read it

I said that you lack comprehension skills , and i explained why and how all your arguments are fallacious malicious and wrong, and all those things.

I also reminded everyone to test high homes because it is the superior strat for the ghetto. And strongly encourage all ghetto players to consider it . And the ones who try, we should open a thread of high homes tips and tactics, i will post there my views in ways to better use high homes and stuff.

You dont need to post you can send me a message if you have questions, i would appreciate that the thigh homes tips and tricks thread is not spammed by high homes haters .

It will be only a place for high homes ppl to discuss their high homes related topics and a nice environment is needed there

Pls dont spam and flame in the high homes thread, id like to have moderation powers to delete threads in the high homes tips and tricks thread . To delete flamers and haters, to keep a nice envoronment in the new high homes thread

no you ramble on with poor grammar and spelling I have better thing to do that try work out what you are saying.