Dreams vs Rage

vball23, if you browse forum you will see bio posted long ago they will hit rage when they can, and they did it. When they hit rage there was none in both kd pages in rage and dreams. They did noting wrong and we didn't call them. Bio is not dog. Every one had his own goals and reasons, and in general all this don't matter too. Every day small kds are doubled, abs did it so many times too. Why now so much complain? All is over, move on. If you hate some one kick his butt next age :)

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Originally Posted by prot

@fariz; your comments are dull and annoying. Stop attention whoring.

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hey! im trying to hit my "posts" to 1,000. is that wrong? durhh!

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

vball23, if you browse forum you will see bio posted long ago they will hit rage when they can, and they did it. When they hit rage there was none in both kd pages in rage and dreams. They did noting wrong and we didn't call them. Bio is not dog. Every one had his own goals and reasons, and in general all this don't matter too. Every day small kds are doubled, abs did it so many times too. Why now so much complain? All is over, move on. If you hate some one kick his butt next age :)

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that is only excuses angelus. who cares right? hurmm hurmm..

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Originally Posted by prot

Again, I think mud sling is the wrong word for this forum talk back and forth. Its a normal thing to happen when there is a big competition coming up. Just look at a derby in a footbal game in the news the few days on beforehand. The issue is that some people take it serious where others are just posting stuff as a joke.

There are things which you dont know upfront, like we didn't know how pumped Rage would be. Notice is given to open up options, it doesn't neccecarily mean you'll have to fight. I think that is also something alot of people are misunderstanding. Giving notice doesn't equal a hostility!
And you're right; I couldn't care less if I was 2 or 10, but the reason given wasn't an excuse as far as I know. There wasn't a chance to close a 60k gap (with HoH) in such short time for both kingdoms. A different goal was picked therefor.
Again; I speak for myself, not for the kingdom.

@fariz; your comments are dull and annoying. Stop attention whoring.

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You know what's funny prot? Your entire argument falls apart if you simply read the first post in this thread. Elit came here to announce to the world that Dreams vs. Rage was coming soon and that you had given Rage notice. Yes, you DID intend to actually hostile/war ... because you started a thread about it that is now many pages long. LOL.

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Originally Posted by UtopiaNub

You know what's funny prot? Your entire argument falls apart if you simply read the first post in this thread. Elit came here to announce to the world that Dreams vs. Rage was coming soon and that you had given Rage notice. Yes, you DID intend to actually hostile/war ... because you started a thread about it that is now many pages long. LOL.

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Its can grow more if you keep post :P

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Originally Posted by prot

Again, I think mud sling is the wrong word for this forum talk back and forth. Its a normal thing to happen when there is a big competition coming up. Just look at a derby in a footbal game in the news the few days on beforehand. The issue is that some people take it serious where others are just posting stuff as a joke.

There are things which you dont know upfront, like we didn't know how pumped Rage would be. Notice is given to open up options, it doesn't neccecarily mean you'll have to fight. I think that is also something alot of people are misunderstanding. Giving notice doesn't equal a hostility!
And you're right; I couldn't care less if I was 2 or 10, but the reason given wasn't an excuse as far as I know. There wasn't a chance to close a 60k gap (with HoH) in such short time for both kingdoms. A different goal was picked therefor.
Again; I speak for myself, not for the kingdom.

@fariz; your comments are dull and annoying. Stop attention whoring.

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umad bro?

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Originally Posted by vball23

Fess up Prime, you sent the dragon, didn't ya? :-)

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Did the dragon bounce?

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

UtopiaNub, i can call you n00b, but you are already :P
Double hostile is when 2 kds wave another same time. Its happen to us this age 2 times and do you see us to complain in forum?
After our 3/3 WW we got wave first from KD X and when we propose in game CF we got Full wave from kd Y. Explain was: you are not in hostile after you offered CF. Do you see difference from REAL double hostile. Both Kds was 25-30% bigger from us too.
Now back to rage vs dreams. You did 3 hits and after day change 2 hits. For 24h there was zero hits. So if Bio want to wave rage they don't have really hostile with dreams and they have all his army home. Rage had 2 option. ask for CF dreams and retal bio or ask for CF bio and wave dreams. You made shady decision to wave dreams. This put you automatic in 2 open relations. Its was rage choice. Good or bad i wont comment just don't blame us for your choice.

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Elit, There is no denying this was a real double hostile. You can say that Dreams was not at fault for it, but you can't seriously deny that it was a double hostile. Rage and Dreams were clearly in a slow developing fight after Dreams publicly called out Rage for a fight.

Both sides had done 3 hits, Rage had sent Dreams a dragon that was still active, and Rage was heavily opping Dreams. You can make the case that despite all this, it was not yet fully hostile. However, BIO also did not hit Rage to hostile since if they did, Rage would have declared them. Rage did not hit BIO at all back since we were involved in fighting Dreams. So if Rage was not hostile with Dreams by your definition, then Rage was also not hostile with BIO. Rage ignored BIO and continued the fight with Dreams and full waved Dreams, giving them the button. This was the first hostile of the conflict by Elit's definition.

This hostile continued on with both Dreams and Rage full fighting. After some time, Dreams was losing a lot of land and entered fw with BIO. Upon entering fw, BIO then full waved Rage since while in FW, they could hit to hostile without risk of Rage declaring them. Two kingdoms, Dreams and BIO, were now full waving Rage even though Rage hadn't touched BIO and were fully hostile with Dreams. I'm not trying to complain, only to correct misinformation. There unquestionably was a double hostile on Rage, and no, it was not Rage choosing to start one.

ASF stop act like retard all time. Rage put herself in situation 2vs1. Don't waste my time and move on.

This age Doa and SG double hostile us if you want to keep all so informed. First Doa launch few hits on us and after we did 1 retal start dragon project same time SG started his wave on us.
Cant you learn to play game and less complain and try all time to be "right". Dreams was double hostiles few times this age before we tag. Its ghetto life. None care. If rage try to play one age for warring you will start awar for being constant double hostiles.

If Rage had gone after BiO instead of Dreams, you're saying Dreams
Would have considered it an active hostile and stopped all hits on Rage? Come on, bro, you know damn well you would have done a full wave on Rage. And would then play the, we gave Rage notice,
So it is their fault they got involved with BiO and caused this 2v1.
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Originally Posted by uneek

If Rage had gone after BiO instead of Dreams, you're saying Dreams
Would have considered it an active hostile and stopped all hits on Rage? Come on, bro, you know damn well you would have done a full wave on Rage. And would then play the, we gave Rage notice,
So it is their fault they got involved with BiO and caused this 2v1.
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Its called propaganda. How you know what will make dreams? Rage never asked for CF when bio hit them. More or less we had non official CF for 23h with no hits in paper.

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

Its called propaganda. How you know what will make dreams? Rage never asked for CF when bio hit them. More or less we had non official CF for 23h with no hits in paper.

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Speaking of propaganda ... it wasn't 23 hours. You seem incapable of telling the truth. I like how your English suddenly deteriorates when someone says something you can't refute.

Elit, you seem to have a major problem with the truth. Why do you feel the need to lie so much all over the forums? First you blatantly lie about the hackings on us over and over. You finally admitted what everyone already knew there and apologized for it. Great, time to move on. Now you are here lieing about a 2v1 on us claiming it's not a real 2v1 and that the 2v1 is our own fault? You have no credibility and have serious issues with reality and the more you talk the worse you look.

The facts speak quite clear:
1) Dreams challenges Rage to a fight.
2) Rage starts fighting Dreams but Dreams realizes that Rage will kick their asses.
3) BIO does some hits into Rage's fight with Dreams, but does not dare hit to hostile.
4) Rage and Dreams are full hostile all out waving each other. Dreams is afraid to push the button and instead goes to FW with BIO who also full waves Rage together wtih Dreams. Rage has not touched BIO to this point.

These facts and the papers behind them are facts enough to show elit to have major problems with the truth.

Here's a few excepts though just for good measure:

<@baka> I am purposely playing 2v1
<@baka> and will do so
<@baka> every age

Rage was taking a lot of land from Dreams and the land was going to BIO. I asked Elit to cf which would benefit both kingdoms given the situation.

Elit was hesitant because he needed to check if it was OK with BIO first if Dreams CF'd us.

<Elit> i dont mind to cf atm
<Elit> but think if we cf i will like cf rage and bio too or baka can become mad on me

<AquaSeaFoam> what holds up making it now? need bakka?
<Elit> want to talk him too
<Elit> its not correct to leave him alone with not ever talk

Eventually he agreed to cf pending confirmation that baka was ok with Dreams cf'ing us. Elit explained that he was ok ending the 2v1 now since all he wanted was an apology from me for the GB on Dreams last age. My apology was sincere and not coerced. I had actually already apologized for the actions on those players who had no part in the causes right from the start so it was nothing new, just done now publicly.

<Elit> all what i wanted was apologize
<Elit> now i'm ok


There was no need to draw out this Elit, but if you're going to continue on these forums making outrageous claims about there not being any 2v1 on Rage or it just being Rage's own choosing, then I'm going to call out the lies. Start speaking the truth and I won't call out the bs and maybe people can start believing what you say again.

I'm not even trying to complain about what happened, it was what it was, and I've faced much worse. Baka is honest about things and while I disagree with his actions, I can respect his honesty. I do have a problem with people butchering the truth though which is why I am responding to Elit's public denial of reality. Apparently he feels the need to try and spin his actions to have both "not happened" and to be "rage's choice" to get 2v1'd while we tried to have a fair 1v1 fight with Dreams after they called us out.

Lastly, DoA disbanded, so I'm pretty sure they did not double Dreams this age.

prot, u better help elit explain what is happening between "rage & BIO-Dreams" thingy. ASF looks like he got a good point there bro. i am sure u dont want everyone to see that u guys are the one who like to take advantage on other SKD right? as what i remember as well.. last time after u hit fury, u guys are so confident that u can bring down rage. now what happen? are they cheating? is that why u cant bring them down?