Simians Vs Sanc, HoH or Rage

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Can you not read? I said when it becomes arranged is irrelevant, only if it does. At this point you've arranged, admittedly, a farmout to HoH. These are facts.



FYI, Ryan was deleted for arranging a farm war just as much as a fake one.

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You are crazy man. We are staying in war. Thus we are getting farmed out. Cause their orcs offensive totaly ripp us apart in our current state.
So, we are farming out. I dont know what gives you the right to say we cant keep warring and what strat we should use. I let my people do what they want. If they dont want to logg when all we do is wait for next age that is up to them. They can go on vacation for all i care as long as team gathers up for next age. We get farmed out in war how much we want. If we want to do 100% learns in war that is not up to you to decide. We are almost keeping army in/out here. Those orcs are just some mean ass machines.
The main problem for some thou is that they cant even use their phones to hit cause of this white screen since this chat was introduced. That is very annoying. But we are fighting man. Just no plan and people free roam. Thus we are farming out heavy. I wont end this war. We have the right to stay in war til they have farmed us down in a legit way. They are just way to ****ing strong. HoH would say the very same thing.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Giving land or taking it is also irrelevant, farming and farming out would be equally against the rules, depending on the circumstances. This case would be a judgement call, and it's Bishop's, not mine. I don't think he'd do anything about it, but in my opinion this is blatant farming to damage another kingdom, which is no different to me than farming out to benefit another kingdom.



I'm absolutely not accusing HoH of anything, only Anri made an admission of what he's doing and it's clearly only to get back at Sanc, not to benefit HoH.

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How is this damaging another KD?

We are not touching Sanc. They should be happy they got 15k free from us. Are you smoking something?

*sigh* Some people just aren't capable of comprehending the point I'm making. Everything you just said it true as it stands alone. The only thing that I am pointing out as a potential issue is that you stated you were only farming out to HoH to prevent Sanc from winning, indicating an intentional farm out to affect the results of the age, which is no different than farming out to a friend so they can win, in my opinion. The war alone is fine, the only thing that I'm talking about is your declared intentions, which is not to actually fight HoH, but to farm to them to hurt Sanc's chances of winning the age.

You didn't stop us from winning by farming out to hoh. You stopped rage from winning (aka "damaged them"). So everyone is okay with it if we farm 100k acres to rage?

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Originally Posted by jdorje

So everyone is okay with it if we farm 100k acres to rage?

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Exactly. Thank you jdorje.

Why on earth would any1 stay in a war past min time when they admit they will just get farmed more and more? There is no logic in what you are doing apart from helping HoH secure #1

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Originally Posted by fuzzy|

Why on earth would any1 stay in a war past min time when they admit they will just get farmed more and more? There is no logic in what you are doing apart from helping HoH secure #1

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Another shining example of logic! We're on a roll lol.

i support the deletion of simians, so they can finally be disband and make a better band of players/kd =D .... odd

If I enter a war with the intention to win but end up getting pwned I withdraw asap so my kingdom can recover and try again.

Have I been doing it differently to others? Does this mean the team that wins actually loses? meh im so confuzzled here.

DHaran you want to get honour crown cause we could war then we do learns 12hrs into war and WD min time.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy|

Why on earth would any1 stay in a war past min time when they admit they will just get farmed more and more? There is no logic in what you are doing apart from helping HoH secure #1

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the logic is that we will find ourselfs to be in a pretty nice range and be more pumped then anyone else in thst range. Sanc wanted to win. Thats why they waved us. Dorje is a snake.

i dont get this. Its simians right to war as they like in a real war. Even if that makes them "farm out" . Its so far the only right thing anri has said in this thread.

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Originally Posted by jdorje

You didn't stop us from winning by farming out to hoh. You stopped rage from winning (aka "damaged them"). So everyone is okay with it if we farm 100k acres to rage?

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I'm ok with it. Everything is acceptable to can see Proteus once to win!

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Originally Posted by Anri

.....I let my people do what they want. If they dont want to logg when all we do is wait for next age that is up to them. They can go on vacation for all i care as long as team gathers up for next age.....

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how are you going to war better warring kingdoms with more honour at a lower range when you make statements like the above?

anyway its fuzzy| bed time :(

P.S wouldnt HoH benefit more from the Sci and credits generated from getting the warwin?

Actually I'm pretty sure the players that reside in Simians are in the highest morale ever. Getting farmed for the record book doesn't hurt. They are cool about being labeled the lousy players that can't even fight back to earn some respect. They have been told it's for the greater good, so i guess it's not an intend farm war, but merely a land drop to go after Sinners? or maybe they want to go for honor crowns and get within range for the current #1 honor kd. =D

odd

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Originally Posted by Anri

the logic is that we will find ourselfs to be in a pretty nice range and be more pumped then anyone else in thst range. Sanc wanted to win. Thats why they waved us. Dorje is a snake.

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No no no, you can't change your answer. You said you are staying in so HoH gets your acres and Sanc can't crown, not to get in better range of others. Stop changing your story.

If Rage decided to have a lazy war with no orders and no activity to give Sanc 100k acres, you'd be the first one on these boards to cry about farming.

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Originally Posted by Darklove

i dont get this. Its simians right to war as they like in a real war. Even if that makes them "farm out" . Its so far the only right thing anri has said in this thread.

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Absolutely correct..... up until the point where Anri said he wasn't doing it to war HoH, but to let them have acres so Sanc finishes lower on the charts. THAT is the only aspect that matters to me.

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Originally Posted by Darklove

i dont get this. Its simians right to war as they like in a real war. Even if that makes them "farm out" . Its so far the only right thing anri has said in this thread.

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All complain come from ABS/ex abs include Dharan. Simians don't have right to pick his target and simians don't have right to loss war, never mind Sanctuary dmg a lot Simians right before war start. Sure ABS gone to new level on power play.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

If Rage decided to have a lazy war with no orders and no activity to give Sanc 100k acres, you'd be the first one on these boards to cry about farming.

Absolutely correct..... up until the point where Anri said he wasn't doing it to war HoH, but to let them have acres so Sanc finishes lower on the charts. THAT is the only aspect that matters to me.

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You still miss main problem. Sanctuary and Rage are ally ! Simians and Hoh is not. Ever if Simians decide to farm on propose to HoH its FULL LEGIT because its strategy choice after they was put on situation with no exit from Sanctuary.
Dont you think 2-3 vs 1 is farming too? Because 2 kds agree to farm 1? How Simians had fair chance to war 1vs1 with hoh? If Some one hur them and they can hurt in return with loss his war there is noting wrong. If you want to blame some one blame Sanctuary not Simians.

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

.....simians don't have right to loss war.....

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if they lost the war they WD no?

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Originally Posted by Darkz Azn

Actually I'm pretty sure the players that reside in Simians are in the highest morale ever. They have been told it's for the greater good, so i guess it's not an intend farm war, but merely a land drop to go after Sinners? or maybe they want to go for honor crowns and get within range for the current #1 honor kd. =D

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acctully no real plan yet. Prob come out using our relations vs sanc. I wont be here. I see lots of fun stuff the kd can do. Simians is always up to fun stuff. It often means no good for whoever is involved. ;-)

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Originally Posted by Anri

.....It often means no good for whoever is involved. ;-)

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except HoH right?

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Originally Posted by Anri

acctully no real plan yet. Prob come out using our relations vs sanc. I wont be here. I see lots of fun stuff the kd can do. Simians is always up to fun stuff. It often means no good for whoever is involved. ;-)

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not going to happen, since you suppose to leave min time to still have ops on us, but since you are prolonging ... =) im glad ... no odd ops from you =D YAY!

odd

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Originally Posted by fuzzy|

if they lost the war they WD no?

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why would we. I think we should do 100% learns only. But thats just me. I hope kd reads here n pick up on the idea :-)

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Originally Posted by Anri

why would we. I think we should do 100% learns only. But thats just me. I hope kd reads here n pick up on the idea :-)

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I will admit its fun doing learns in war but only once you've secured the win ;)

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Originally Posted by fuzzy|

except HoH right?

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right now. Yes! Probably. Other times. Cant say. I think HoH should have got deleted for farming 35k acres to Simians last age. Maybe psychward for farming to snakes. OS for farming out plenty of times. Silly people.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy|

I will admit its fun doing learns in war but only once you've secured the win ;)

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if acres has no meaning then kd should learn. Either you win age or you fail. We failed now we do what we want and feel for. Books will be great for us. Most fun range would be 60k acres maybe and superpumped.

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Originally Posted by fuzzy|

if they lost the war they WD no?

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I had war with well know/good warring kd Free. They loss it in land/nw terms but had capability to attack and didunt Wd for over 2 weeks. After it age was over and start new :D
Never underestimate Waring kds :P

im glad simians is a warring kd.

odd.

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Originally Posted by Darkz Azn

not going to happen, since you suppose to leave min time to still have ops on us, but since you are prolonging ... =) im glad ... no odd ops from you =D YAY!

odd

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i could be wrong. Does meter decay like that in war?

=) don't worry I feel a lot safe now that you didnt wd ... no ops YAY! =)

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

I had war with well know/good warring kd Free. They loss it in land/nw terms but had capability to attack and didunt Wd for over 2 weeks. After it age was over and start new :D
Never underestimate Waring kds :P

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FREE was awesome

Well for those who recall who I am I ahve had my time in HaLL currently in rage. I dont see with what right anyone can tell simians how to run their war. I see anri running his mouth saying hes farming out. But he said he aint running this war. he basicly here running his mouth and its funny to see you guys bite on his trolling. Basicly bugging you guys here in forums about deliberate farming out. Its not like they have a choise in the matter as long as they refuse to surrender in the war.

its only 37 to go

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Originally Posted by Darklove

Well for those who recall who I am I ahve had my time in HaLL currently in rage. I dont see with what right anyone can tell simians how to run their war. I see anri running his mouth saying hes farming out. But he said he aint running this war. he basicly here running his mouth and its funny to see you guys bite on his trolling. Basicly bugging you guys here in forums about deliberate farming out. Its not like they have a choise in the matter as long as they refuse to surrender in the war.

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my god. We found a smart one. Wazup darklove?

odd =) unlikely you guys will wd to have op YAY =D

odd.

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Originally Posted by Anri

my god. We found a smart one. Wazup darklove?

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oh nothing much just find it strange that people fall for these thigns over and over again :-P

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

You still miss main problem. Sanctuary and Rage are ally ! Simians and Hoh is not.

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You are missing the irrelevance of your argument. Allied or not, it doesn't matter. A kingdom is intentionally transferring acres to another to affect the outcome of the age. That is farming, nothing else matters.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

A kingdom is intentionally transferring acres to another to affect the outcome of the age. That is farming, nothing else matters.

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Every time you attack someone you intentionally transfer acres from one kd to another. Simians ORIGINAL plan was to use the acre swaps so that Sanc couldn't win. They wanted to take as many acres from HoH as they could and crown. Was that against the rules too?

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Originally Posted by Palem

Every time you attack someone you intentionally transfer acres from one kd to another. Simians ORIGINAL plan was to use the acre swaps so that Sanc couldn't win. They wanted to take as many acres from HoH as they could and crown. Was that against the rules too?

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Previous intentions are irrelevant when replaced with current ones.

You missed my point =\

Farming isn't against any of the game rules. If Abs wants rage and sanc to start feeding each other, there's nothing in the game rules stopping them from doing that (though the playerbase as a whole will most likely respond with hostility).

I don't know what fantasy world you've been living in, farming is and always has been against the rules. It's just a matter of circumstances and admin's view of them.

Funny how some people wants to dictate how utopia is meant to be played forging their own rules of what's acceptable and not.