omg omg omg panda what?!

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Originally Posted by Shai

You are probably the biggest cheater in the game, and seem to take pride in it.

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How you define biggest cheater? Im pretty sure ABS=ASF have done what have done Mike. So how one is bigger cheater?

Back in old days was forbidden to trade acc but all top Kds had full 25 traded acc. ABS and few other big alliances had ppl for scrip acc for them and access to proxy/login sites for avoid get deleted and for x-login. From other side rest Kds didn't had access to scripting and used old trade way so they regular get deleted acc. When some one get good enough to fight ABS you = (ABS) mass reported him and they get deleted. After it you call them cheater!

How you dare to call rest ppl cheaters when your alliances was based on cheating for long and you have done it. Only difference in cheating is some Alliances/KDs have done it on professional level and other not. So don't came and call other ppl cheaters when you are same.

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Originally Posted by Loons

Bishop

Palem

Can you please rename the prov? Honestly this is just childish and disgusting behavior and very offensive to newer and/or non trolling players.

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I think Palem or Bishop would like to know which prov you are talking about? All I see is a C&P wall-of-text from the war forum.

Also, the forums are not the correct place to report offensive province names. Or are you trying to make a public spectacle?

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Originally Posted by Loons

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I don't want to QQ your post he is full with offensive words. Ever include USA candidate for President. If you have problem with offensive prov name just email support don't make post like this in forum.

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I just check Jester Kd page. So many prov name look offensive. Guess they hate Mike so much!

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Originally Posted by the juice man

I think Palem or Bishop would like to know which prov you are talking about? All I see is a C&P wall-of-text from the war forum.

Also, the forums are not the correct place to report offensive province names. Or are you trying to make a public spectacle?

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It has been reported and nothing done

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Originally Posted by Loons

It has been reported and nothing done

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Bishop won't automatically change someone's prov name just because an (obviously biased) person reports it. It has been reported, as you say. It is now in Bishop's hands. No reason to post here.

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Originally Posted by Elit

How you define biggest cheater? Im pretty sure ABS=ASF have done what have done Mike. So how one is bigger cheater?

Back in old days was forbidden to trade acc but all top Kds had full 25 traded acc. ABS and few other big alliances had ppl for scrip acc for them and access to proxy/login sites for avoid get deleted and for x-login. From other side rest Kds didn't had access to scripting and used old trade way so they regular get deleted acc. When some one get good enough to fight ABS you = (ABS) mass reported him and they get deleted. After it you call them cheater!

How you dare to call rest ppl cheaters when your alliances was based on cheating for long and you have done it. Only difference in cheating is some Alliances/KDs have done it on professional level and other not. So don't came and call other ppl cheaters when you are same.

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This is what happens when a cheater get punished by a system! So Sour Elit!

also just say you are offended by them. using new players as an excuse is lame considering that they won't know who these people are and the names as such arent any more or less offensive than some in your own kingdom.
I do however think personal insults should not be voiced through province names.

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Originally Posted by home.alone

This is what happens when a cheater get punished by a system! So Sour Elit!

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Noting Sour just calling all with his real names. Every one in past traded accounts for get his Kd stronger. Only difference is some KDs/Alliances had advance tools for professional cheating.

System was able to catch only ppl who don't have professional cheating tolls. So this way we had real cheating when pro cheaters got advantage over rest KDs using system and call them cheaters.

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This stupid politic from Mehul favor cheaters was one from reason game to loss so many members. Its really frustrating when you loss 5 accounts and you need like 1-2 ages for recover but "TOP cheaters" need few days for get back all his accounts. When you experience this few times you simple gave up and send utopia to hell. Do you remember when All hall monarch was deleted?

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Originally Posted by Elit

Noting Sour just calling all with his real names. Every one in past traded accounts for get his Kd stronger. Only difference is some KDs/Alliances had advance tools for professional cheating.

System was able to catch only ppl who don't have professional cheating tolls. So this way we had real cheating when pro cheaters got advantage over rest KDs using system and call them cheaters.

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This stupid politic from Mehul favor cheaters was one from reason game to loss so many members. Its really frustrating when you loss 5 accounts and you need like 1-2 ages for recover but "TOP cheaters" need few days for get back all his accounts. When you experience this few times you simple gave up and send utopia to hell. Do you remember when All hall monarch was deleted?

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I do not care about who got deleted when or who got laid where. People like You, Flogger, Proteus, Asf, Anri n all should be given an all together a different forum.

You guys keep on repeating things that have happened in 15000 BC. I mean you guys literally are losers that even after so many years and I assume many of you have grown up to be adults, that you still keep crying over what happened in past and cannot get over it.

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

also just say you are offended by them. using new players as an excuse is lame considering that they won't know who these people are and the names as such arent any more or less offensive than some in your own kingdom.
I do however think personal insults should not be voiced through province names.

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looking at the names ... id say at least a few would be against the rules.

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Originally Posted by home.alone

I do not care about who got deleted when or who got laid where. People like You, Flogger, Proteus, Asf, Anri n all should be given an all together a different forum.

You guys keep on repeating things that have happened in 15000 BC. I mean you guys literally are losers that even after so many years and I assume many of you have grown up to be adults, that you still keep crying over what happened in past and cannot get over it.

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In past server was big so you had many targets/options. Now game is small and same ppl need to compete with same ppl. When some one done something to you sure you cant forget it and move on easy when next age he can make same. Try to active lead KD and compete in any chart and talk after it.

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but you can discuss things in a different place where it's appropriate and not in a thread discussing a conflict between 2 kingdoms that are totally irrelevant to your conflict.

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

but you can discuss things in a different place where it's appropriate and not in a thread discussing a conflict between 2 kingdoms that are totally irrelevant to your conflict.

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Exactly my point. These guys have been ruining every ****ing thread. Talking things 1-2 ages back is fine. But not what happened 2343256352421423 ages back.

And then they come up with a point " try to do this and then come and speak " I mean a kid will be more mature when making that statement!

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

but you can discuss things in a different place where it's appropriate and not in a thread discussing a conflict between 2 kingdoms that are totally irrelevant to your conflict.

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All this situation remind me age when Jerks and pew pew had his coordinated actions against AMA and its turned ASF is behind all teach them how to pull all BS. Jerks after loss his min time war still keep drag it when its only hurt them and refuse my CF offer. All this for delay us till our CF with Pew Pew expire so they can jump on us.
Right now situation with Panda and rest in top are complete same. Jester is sacrifice his KD for no self gains but for other Kingdom interest.

Its different age but complete same story. Do you see Emeriti official to state again DB and offer any kind help or extend CF with Panda for not get extra unfair advantage? Do you see this from Bart? Not all rest Kds in top is trying to max profit from current DB and don't care for what is fair or not.

Im sure this deal break was inspired from one from this 2 Kds. One day we will find answer.

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Originally Posted by home.alone

Exactly my point. These guys have been ruining every ****ing thread. Talking things 1-2 ages back is fine. But not what happened 2343256352421423 ages back.

And then they come up with a point " try to do this and then come and speak " I mean a kid will be more mature when making that statement!

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My point is you know noting.

Do these panda only cry all day? so lets look at ur names, hillary for prison 2016? hmmm i feel disrespected should i report ur name ???

GROW A PAIR.

Surrender to jesters, ur only way out of this mess u got urselves into. Jesters baited u into a war to destroy ur chances to crown cause of the bs u have given them the past ages. You declared war, asked friends to prov raze when u lost it. Now take it like a champ or just surrender XD


GOOOO JESTERS!

or both(to elit's post)

no way should notpandas withdraw. if jesters are smart they make a deal and wd fast before other kingdoms clear their schedules

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Originally Posted by Elit

All this situation remind me age when Jerks and pew pew had his coordinated actions against AMA and its turned ASF is behind all teach them how to pull all BS. Jerks after loss his min time war still keep drag it when its only hurt them and refuse my CF offer. All this for delay us till our CF with Pew Pew expire so they can jump on us.
Right now situation with Panda and rest in top are complete same. Jester is sacrifice his KD for no self gains but for other Kingdom interest.

Its different age but complete same story. Do you see Emeriti official to state again DB and offer any kind help or extend CF with Panda for not get extra unfair advantage? Do you see this from Bart? Not all rest Kds in top is trying to max profit from current DB and don't care for what is fair or not.

Im sure this deal break was inspired from one from this 2 Kds. One day we will find answer.



My point is you know noting.

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Of course. Why the heck will Emeriti do anything for a kingdom who Deal broke them and Gbed them already? Did panda approach Emeriti for CF? Do you have logs to prove that Emeriti declined? Like i said before, those whose age is gone will think of making a statement like flogger last age and zauper this age. (Zauper claiming that they can go for honor/war win clown is baseless since many people in his kd/LS have shown down upon them and termed them useless)

You are literally someone out of those soap operas where the husband thinks the wife is sleeping with his boss when she is actually working.

You make allegations without proof, claiming that you have proof and then do not post it for multi-****ing ages.

ABS is dead. Dead and buried. Why does it keep getting brought up? Wtf did I miss all those yrs? Mike^ & Shai, how about just meet up for a beer and laugh about the game. ;)

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Originally Posted by home.alone

The worst thing of this conflict is how Emeriti and Spartans 1 or Spartans 2 are benefiting out of it. Emeriti will be exploring one of their humans to 10k soonish and spartans already have 1 of their dwarf around 10k.

Assuming most of top's initial cf's are till year 3 or year 4, by the time panda's will be out, their cf's will be expiring or would have expired and will be eaten by any of these 2 kingdoms.

Spartans have an alliance with jesters and has been well known but the question here is even Emeriti included in this sorta alliance with bart (spartans 1 + 2) + jesters?

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I'm staying out of this, but I question the whole thing. I have friends in Panda's and Jesters and of course Bart, but I smell foul play. Just not sure from where ( and do I care enough? ).

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Originally Posted by home.alone

Of course. Why the heck will Emeriti do anything for a kingdom who Deal broke them and Gbed them already?

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How you can use for arguments past events when you told me its wrong? Do you think if something happen last age or 3 ages or 5 ages ago matter for involved sides. When you feel other side did wrong to you for sure you will bring any time it. Just how you did just now.

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Originally Posted by home.alone

Like i said before, those whose age is gone will think of making a statement like flogger last age and zauper this age. (Zauper claiming that they can go for honor/war win clown is baseless since many people in his kd/LS have shown down upon them and termed them useless)

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This part from your post show how you dont have any idea about game. Just looking over CR setup can give you instant answer they dont have any age goal...and for sure not land chart. How hard is to understand it ??? Its not like his age is over. He have normal age like all rest Kds in server just playing and having fun.

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Originally Posted by Elit

How you can use for arguments past events when you told me its wrong? Do you think if something happen last age or 3 ages or 5 ages ago matter for involved sides. When you feel other side did wrong to you for sure you will bring any time it. Just how you did just now.

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Because i said going back 1-2 ages are fine and if I am not wrong its what happened 3 ages back. Yes now come and talk on numbers but I dont care. I will re word it to recent past if that suits you well!

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Originally Posted by home.alone

Because i said going back 1-2 ages are fine and if I am not wrong its what happened 3 ages back. Yes now come and talk on numbers but I dont care. I will re word it to recent past if that suits you well!

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Ok so you think going back 3 ages is fine. Do you think if i GB you 4 ages ago and retire after start playing again its cout 4 ages or 1 ages? Can you forget and forgive it all if GB cost you win age after working hard for 10 weeks?

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Originally Posted by Elit

This part from your post show how you dont have any idea about game. Just looking over CR setup can give you instant answer they dont have any age goal...and for sure not land chart. How hard is to understand it ??? Its not like his age is over. He have normal age like all rest Kds in server just playing and having fun.

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Your post clearly shows your lack of knowledge about how people see a KD who has the reputation to go for land crowns, with or without setup, will still be considered as a kd who will go for land crowns.

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Originally Posted by Elit

Ok so you think going back 3 ages is fine. Do you think if i GB you 4 ages ago and retire after start playing again its cout 4 ages or 1 ages? Can you forget and forgive it all if GB cost you win age after working hard for 10 weeks?

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see, again you are trying to bring in the Sonata/Dreams conflict with ABS into picture.

You have it written all over you. That you will keep dwelling or citting over your past.

I honestly hope you do not say at work, "Do you think I farted on your face 4 days back, and then i go on vacation and come back and do the same to someone else, will you slap me?

People like you should be the ones sharing good experiences that can help promote game or new players.

But what do u do? Sit and Whine like there is no Rhyme!

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Originally Posted by home.alone

Your post clearly shows your lack of knowledge about how people see a KD who has the reputation to go for land crowns, with or without setup, will still be considered as a kd who will go for land crowns.

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My post show difference in knowledge. I have played and compete for long to can see when one Kd compete or not and n00bies don't have this knowledge so they fail in fear from other kingdom reputation.

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Originally Posted by home.alone

see, again you are trying to bring in the Sonata/Dreams conflict with ABS into picture.

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My comments are in general and for sure i dont intend to Bring ABS GB on Dreams age 50. Sure its cost me hell much real time and noting can compensate me for all time and nerves i loss but at least me and ASF made agreement so he apologize about GB and its why i dont bring this.
Still we have enough other stories for argue :P

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Originally Posted by home.alone

But what do u do? Sit and Whine like there is no Rhyme!

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Fight in forum is important part from game. All you can do ingame is send army and wait for 10-14h. Posting in forum,chat in irc till army is back is all what make game so interest.

Can we try and keep the discussion to this conflict please.

This is what your post appears to me, after cutting the crap:

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Let's make a few things clear:

1. I've broken deals before, at will and no remorse. Likely to do so again.
2. I've multied before, and have been caught at least once.

4. I'm tired of people calling my "****play" for what it is.

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1. I've never done a clear DB. Each time there were clear grounds to break them because the deal was changed or people did not stick to the terms fully.
2. I've multied once before, 2 years ago when I wasn't even competitive yet, not even for warring crowns.
4. I'm getting signals that there is "evidence" of me being involved in this, yet so far no one has been able to show it to me. But hey, that's standard treatment of the new kids nowadays. How dare Spartans play a legit game and do well?

Edit: I saw the logs.

If the new meta is gonna be that anyone that has any connections with a DBing KD should be policed, we're gonna be in for some fun-times in uto.

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1. I've never done a clear DB. Each time there were clear grounds to break them because the deal was changed or people did not stick to the terms fully.
2. I've multied once before, 2 years ago when I wasn't even competitive yet, not even for warring crowns.
4. I'm getting signals that there is "evidence" of me being involved in this, yet so far no one has been able to show it to me. But hey, that's standard treatment of the new kids nowadays. How dare Spartans play a legit game and do well?

Edit: I saw the logs.

If the new meta is gonna be that anyone that has any connections with a DBing KD should be policed, we're gonna be in for some fun-times in uto.

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Being suspected in this situation is normal. You and Emerity profit most from situation and Jester actions is clear suspicious.

No one from both kingdoms made clear position about this DB. Did you support it or not? Do you going to extend CF with Panda or you will try use it for jump them (i dont know when your CF expire)? Its all about choice you want to make. I don't expect much moral from Leaders in Emerity. Your kingdom is new so you are building your history and relations now.

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Originally Posted by Elit

Being suspected in this situation is normal. You and Emerity profit most from situation and Jester actions is clear suspicious.

No one from both kingdoms made clear position about this DB. Did you support it or not? Do you going to extend CF with Panda or you will try use it for jump them (i dont know when your CF expire)? Its all about choice you want to make. I don't expect much moral from Leaders in Emerity. Your kingdom is new so you are building your history and relations now.

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Suspecting is fine, but it seems now people are just gearing up for a powerplay on whatever flimsy evidence they can gather. Our Kingdom is not welcome in the top, we know that by now. Yet we are here and we are here to stay, so deal with it. New? We're probably the oldest still-running Kingdom in utopia at the moment (over 40 ages). That made me trolol :P

The other stuff we haven't even thought about since it's not even relevant until the conflict ends.

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No one from both kingdoms made clear position about this DB. Did you support it or not? Do you going to extend CF with Panda or you will try use it for jump them (i dont know when your CF expire)? Its all about choice you want to make. I don't expect much moral from Leaders in Emerity. Your kingdom is new so you are building your history and relations now.

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Shut up Elit. Noone from Pandas/sleepy/simians asked me to help before this conflict had been going on for a week, and we are in the process of razing the kd thats razing Pandas/Simians/sleepy into their war. Get your facts straight and keep Emeriti out of your paranoid conspiracies

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Originally Posted by Binar

Shut up Elit. Noone from Pandas/sleepy/simians asked me to help before this conflict had been going on for a week

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This. Even now no one of Pandas has even approached me to ask for help.

What is see is Binar and Bart dodge to give answer my questions.
Dont be surprised when ppl suspect you with this kind reaction.

p.s.
BinBin why you are so mad?

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Edit: I saw the logs.

If the new meta is gonna be that anyone that has any connections with a DBing KD should be policed, we're gonna be in for some fun-times in uto.

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...that anyone that has any connections with a DBing KD...

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Earlier in the thread you claimed:

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Wtf do I have to do with any of this?

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You were lying then.
You are likely lying now.

You sounds like a sleaze that can't keep his story straight. At least learn to lie competently. You will have to if you'd like to join the "top".

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Originally Posted by Elit

Being suspected in this situation is normal. You and Emerity profit most from situation and Jester actions is clear suspicious.

No one from both kingdoms made clear position about this DB. Did you support it or not? Do you going to extend CF with Panda or you will try use it for jump them (i dont know when your CF expire)? Its all about choice you want to make. I don't expect much moral from Leaders in Emerity. Your kingdom is new so you are building your history and relations now.

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Lol i am not sure where you play elit, nor do I care to find out who is playing where. But if you play in pandas, you re manipulating everyone how we should read this. I am playing in a warring kingdom and pandas took acres from us. When we tried to negotiate a CF your terms were unreasanable, taking clear advantage of your powerposition to act like a douche. I can imagine pandas did the same with the other crown competers when you had that position. Now pandas are crying that jesters dont wd after they clearly slowplayed to lay the foundation for the warwin. They used the excuse of dealbreaking to call in CR to raze, which was ****ty, yet understandable bc of the dealbreak. Now when emeriti, sparta and bb caught up there is additional crying and accusations. The point i am trying to make is that i hope that either emeriti, sparta or BB vultures them like hell. Karma can be a ***** and my sympathy goes to any other kd besides pandas. They also take our acres, but show much more class and dont treat us like some kind of untermensch!

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Originally Posted by Elit

What is see is Binar and Bart dodge to give answer my questions.
Dont be surprised when ppl suspect you with this kind reaction.

p.s.
BinBin why you are so mad?

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Dodging what?
Pandas/simians/sleepy hadnt asked for help or CF extensions. Coss came and talked to me yesterday and asked what I thought about this mess, he did not ask for help or an extension (he did mention something about an extension, but no real talks where had) Also Loons from the same kd asked me late yesterday if we wanted to raze VALHALLA. I told her what I told Coss: If we had been asked to help raze Valhalla at the time they dealbroke then ofc we would help to police it.

Iam not sure what your question is Elit

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Originally Posted by Humanoize

Lol i am not sure where you play elit, nor do I care to find out who is playing where. But if you play in pandas, you re manipulating everyone how we should read this. I am playing in a warring kingdom and pandas took acres from us. When we tried to negotiate a CF your terms were unreasanable, taking clear advantage of your powerposition to act like a douche. I can imagine pandas did the same with the other crown competers when you had that position. Now pandas are crying that jesters dont wd after they clearly slowplayed to lay the foundation for the warwin. They used the excuse of dealbreaking to call in CR to raze, which was ****ty, yet understandable bc of the dealbreak. Now when emeriti, sparta and bb caught up there is additional crying and accusations. The point i am trying to make is that i hope that either emeriti, sparta or BB vultures them like hell. Karma can be a ***** and my sympathy goes to any other kd besides pandas. They also take our acres, but show much more class and dont treat us like some kind of untermensch!

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I dont play in panda.

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Dodging what?
Pandas/simians/sleepy hadnt asked for help or CF extensions. Coss came and talked to me yesterday and asked what I thought about this mess, he did not ask for help or an extension (he did mention something about an extension, but no real talks where had) Also Loons from the same kd asked me late yesterday if we wanted to raze VALHALLA. I told her what I told Coss: If we had been asked to help raze Valhalla at the time they dealbroke then ofc we would help to police it.

Iam not sure what your question is Elit

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Sorry for make you feel unsure but this time you gave more clear answer about situation :)
I have another question: Do you remember what you forgot...related to our last chat in irc!