Evil Dragons...

Razing into war is unacceptable. Period. Trying to justify it is pointless. If ED accepts the help i have no doubt the community will help.

First off, stop calling them strippers, they are not strippers, Strippers disbanded after last age when myself and several other council members left.

Secondly, ED started raze killing a smaller KD based on their anger at having GC stolen last age. There was no mention under the terms of that war that stealing from each other was banned, as is often the case. As per usual when such an agreement is missing, we stole gold. The fact they obviously forgot to include a term in the war contract wasn't our fault, since they wrote the terms, and the fact they failed to train thieves immediately upon EOW is their fault. There is a reason it is usually done straight away.

So if you want to fight STRIPPERS, fine, we'll be coming for you, we're spread further than you think. But there mere fact your still bitter over last age's loss destroys any respect I had for you. Last age we got beaten by SPGC, but we learnt from it, and became stronger. If you truly wanted to be a warring KD you'd look for fair wars. Instead your choosing to become a Taliban, trying to instill your idealised values that you can't match on to others solely to cover up for your own insecurities.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

Someone give me a recap of whatever this is about, I didn't know there was anything worth reading in here and now I'm behind.

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ED are schooling a kingdom that ignores war status, land drops and asks friends to raze their war opponents. Many kds are offering assistance to ED.

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Originally Posted by ArcDurath

First off, stop calling them strippers, they are not strippers, Strippers disbanded after last age when myself and several other council members left.

Secondly, ED started raze killing a smaller KD based on their anger at having GC stolen last age. There was no mention under the terms of that war that stealing from each other was banned, as is often the case. As per usual when such an agreement is missing, we stole gold. The fact they obviously forgot to include a term in the war contract wasn't our fault, since they wrote the terms, and the fact they failed to train thieves immediately upon EOW is their fault. There is a reason it is usually done straight away.

So if you want to fight STRIPPERS, fine, we'll be coming for you, we're spread further than you think. But there mere fact your still bitter over last age's loss destroys any respect I had for you. Last age we got beaten by SPGC, but we learnt from it, and became stronger. If you truly wanted to be a warring KD you'd look for fair wars. Instead your choosing to become a Taliban, trying to instill your idealised values that you can't match on to others solely to cover up for your own insecurities.

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Im confused, you left Strippers with your council buddies, but if people want to fight Strippers you will be coming for them? An alliance of Strippers?

What baffles me is why Strippers didn't declare to save the prov. It's not like we'd have people come from outside to raze in a war or anything. It's as if they have as little regard for kdmates as they do everyone else. Former elf marquis, we're sorry that your kingdom decided to leave you for dead only to declare almost immediately after. We're not currently recruiting, but if you send Parth nudies and he likes them, he might make an exception!

Sorry zauper, that didn't take the bias out of it. And you added your own.

That said, seems like a one-sided war. Poor ex-strippers.

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Originally Posted by ArcDurath

First off, stop calling them strippers, they are not strippers, Strippers disbanded after last age when myself and several other council members left.

Secondly, ED started raze killing a smaller KD based on their anger at having GC stolen last age. There was no mention under the terms of that war that stealing from each other was banned, as is often the case. As per usual when such an agreement is missing, we stole gold. The fact they obviously forgot to include a term in the war contract wasn't our fault, since they wrote the terms, and the fact they failed to train thieves immediately upon EOW is their fault. There is a reason it is usually done straight away.

So if you want to fight STRIPPERS, fine, we'll be coming for you, we're spread further than you think. But there mere fact your still bitter over last age's loss destroys any respect I had for you. Last age we got beaten by SPGC, but we learnt from it, and became stronger. If you truly wanted to be a warring KD you'd look for fair wars. Instead your choosing to become a Taliban, trying to instill your idealised values that you can't match on to others solely to cover up for your own insecurities.

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ohhh, a Strippers crew reunion to fight the ED crews. Sounds like farmage. Take your time, don't hurt yourself.

PS: There was no war contract when we came looking for war, it's not our fault "Strippers" had 80mil gc lying around and expected that it wouldnt get stolen when they steal from other ppl's eowcf because "it wasn't written in a contract"

What I am saying Georgnub is that they are trying to fight something that no longer exists- the people from strippers are scattered across the server. If you want to take out your anger at something from last age, then you ought to do a better job of tracking us down. If you keep declaring that you want to fight us then we will fight you, but the entity your trying to fight has only a passing resemblance to what you want to fight.
Secondly, stop declaring that debauchery Land drop, ever since the honour penalty has been enforced it hasn't been done. What you are trying to portray as a 25% drop was one hit from an external KD. Hardly a land drop.

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Originally Posted by ArcDurath

First off, stop calling them strippers, they are not strippers, Strippers disbanded after last age when myself and several other council members left.

Secondly, ED started raze killing a smaller KD based on their anger at having GC stolen last age. There was no mention under the terms of that war that stealing from each other was banned, as is often the case. As per usual when such an agreement is missing, we stole gold. The fact they obviously forgot to include a term in the war contract wasn't our fault, since they wrote the terms, and the fact they failed to train thieves immediately upon EOW is their fault. There is a reason it is usually done straight away.

So if you want to fight STRIPPERS, fine, we'll be coming for you, we're spread further than you think. But there mere fact your still bitter over last age's loss destroys any respect I had for you. Last age we got beaten by SPGC, but we learnt from it, and became stronger. If you truly wanted to be a warring KD you'd look for fair wars. Instead your choosing to become a Taliban, trying to instill your idealised values that you can't match on to others solely to cover up for your own insecurities.

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WAR CONTRACT? This isn't Candyland for lawyers. Get out of my house, newbie. You are not fit to play. I hear FarmVille is fun, though. You are witnessing some old testament style vengeance done up right. As far as fair wars goes, we're 4 wars in and at 106% average opponent networth, strippers 2.0 is the first kd we've fought without 25 provs this age, and we're okay with that this time around. And if you want to claim to be strippers instead, you owe us a loc. Anything else is just poor posturing. Perhaps you'll let us know where you are by razekilling a prov out of war? That seems to be what the kids these days do. Oh, of course we'll draw up a war contract for that if you like.

Sounds like the typical "warring" kingdom BS. They only want to fight when they are at their absolute strongest, or against a total ghetto. And unless ED razed into someone else's war, it certainly is not "eye for an eye", so that was just a stupid comment.

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Originally Posted by JONCY

PS: There was no war contract when we came looking for war, it's not our fault "Strippers" had 80mil gc lying around and expected that it wouldnt get stolen when they steal from other ppl's eowcf because "it wasn't written in a contract"

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Please see my previous posts

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Originally Posted by SillyRabbit

During our 4th day of CF ED makes 15 plunders into our kd and steals lots of gold. We do not complain about hitting into our war.

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Originally Posted by SillyRabbit

A) May 19 to June 7th ED made 15 plunders into our eowcf. We recall stealing from them last age, so none of us complain (and you can check my previous post where I said none of us were complaining).

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Originally Posted by ArcDurath

What I am saying Georgnub is that they are trying to fight something that no longer exists- the people from strippers are scattered across the server. If you want to take out your anger at something from last age, then you ought to do a better job of tracking us down. If you keep declaring that you want to fight us then we will fight you, but the entity your trying to fight has only a passing resemblance to what you want to fight.
Secondly, stop declaring that debauchery Land drop, ever since the honour penalty has been enforced it hasn't been done. What you are trying to portray as a 25% drop was one hit from an external KD. Hardly a land drop.

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April 10 of YR4 Unemployed Hobo (x:xx) invaded Donatello (x:xx) and razed 69 acres of land.
April 10 of YR4 Unemployed Hobo (x:xx) invaded Donatello (x:xx) and razed 57 acres of land.
April 10 of YR4 Donatello (x:xx) razed 112 acres of Unemployed Hobo (x:xx).

May 1 of YR4 An unknown province from The Unsullied (x:xx) razed 120 acres of Scrub Guy (x:xx).
May 1 of YR4 An unknown province from The Unsullied (x:xx) razed 99 acres of Scrub Guy (x:xx).

There's more from where that came from.

Is lying your specialty? I took daily CE's of "Strippers".
Also one of that kd also RK'ed Ed's province. Very fair kd you have there

I'm not giving you a location for strippers, because, as i stated above, we DISBANDED. That usually means we no longer exist. THERE IS NO LOCATION. If our monarch starts a new KD that's his prerogative.
And a KD that agrees to a war and expects the opponent to do absolutely nothing to weaken them is expecting a very weak opponent. And the only KD we fled from was The ancients, at a time they had 20% more NW. We fight anyone we can, and it often leads to defeats, such as two last age. But we never hold a grudge, simply respect. Seems like ED think that they are godly, and that we had to cheat to beat them, so they hate us. The reality is they sucked last age, and, looking from afar, seem to be much stronger this age. Still doesn't remove the fact they have a maturity level of a 4 year old, and can't move on.
Debauchery have declared against a far stronger KD, so ED are likely to get their revenge, which is fine.
However if people start razing debauchery then this game has become a complete joke.

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Originally Posted by ArcDurath

I'm not giving you a location for strippers, because, as i stated above, we DISBANDED. That usually means we no longer exist. THERE IS NO LOCATION. If our monarch starts a new KD that's his prerogative.
And a KD that agrees to a war and expects the opponent to do absolutely nothing to weaken them is expecting a very weak opponent. And the only KD we fled from was The ancients, at a time they had 20% more NW. We fight anyone we can, and it often leads to defeats, such as two last age. But we never hold a grudge, simply respect. Seems like ED think that they are godly, and that we had to cheat to beat them, so they hate us. The reality is they sucked last age, and, looking from afar, seem to be much stronger this age. Still doesn't remove the fact they have a maturity level of a 4 year old, and can't move on.
Debauchery have declared against a far stronger KD, so ED are likely to get their revenge, which is fine.
However if people start razing debauchery then this game has become a complete joke.

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You mean Debauchery the kingdom who steal into everyone's EOWCF periods? If there is one kingdom I know needs to be razed, it's Debauchery.

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Originally Posted by DHaran

You mean Debauchery the kingdom who steal into everyone's EOWCF periods? If there is one kingdom I know needs to be razed, it's Debauchery.

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I think he's having an identity crisis, because he claims Strippers don't exist, and yet they answer to being called the name Strippers.

If they're stealing your kdname, you probably should razekill them ArcDurath.

And bitter? We're not bitter - we called them out, and then we smashed them. What is there for us to be bitter over? We're the better kd, we were last age - though we were handicapped by having had played ~4-5 weeks only and only having 20 provs, and we are this age. We've just proved it.

If you're trying to say that we should be coming after you instead, fine. PM your loc.

And reborn, where do I try to present biased opinion as fact in my post?