Suicide Squad VS FReakstyle

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Originally Posted by Pale

The mechanics allow you to wave a kd outside of war for pretty decent honour gains. Everyone has the same opportunity to use it to their advantage when it's suitable. Yet you punish someone for doing it? It's a natural part of the game. We all know they're not going to get you to war them and they have aspirations for the honour crown. So what else do you expect them to do? Other kds, and much bigger, have been randoming for honour all freaking age and no one has complained all that much about it. Maybe they didn't hit the correct people? The ones who feel entitled to keep their stuff and whine when they don't get to?

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That argument is lacking. The game also allows for pretty decent gains razing into a war. So by your logic that would mean that razing into war is just fine and dandy since the game rewards it.
Read the description of honor in the game. If they want to earn an honor crown it would help if they were honorable. They have been everything BUT honorable

What part of stealing, killing, casting death magic and taking things by force is honorable?

That argument is laughable. Honor is just what the resource is called.

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

But FS is not allowed this opportunity? To LD and fight SS on even ground? It all sounds so weird to me, sorry if I'm wrong here, in any case, why would FS not be allowed to pursue their goal to the best of their ability regardless?

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far as I know FS was offered war by SS on even ground and declined. I understand that you had no say in this, but your leadership did. Bottomfeeding is not playing to the best of your ability. Warring Divinity or giving SS the chance to even out acre/land margin before warring would have been playing to the best of your ability.

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

That argument is lacking. The game also allows for pretty decent gains razing into a war. So by your logic that would mean that razing into war is just fine and dandy since the game rewards it.
Read the description of honor in the game. If they want to earn an honor crown it would help if they were honorable. They have been everything BUT honorable

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.. they have been everything BUT honorable, so let's honorably GB them and take the crown for ourselves. Purrrfect.
Seriously, if half of this thread went into the suggestions board, the rest would be easier to reason about.

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Originally Posted by Exxo

.. they have been everything BUT honorable, so let's honorably GB them and take the crown for ourselves. Purrrfect.
Seriously, if half of this thread went into the suggestions board, the rest would be easier to reason about.

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Got lost from all the pro-FS propaganda? Here let me help you: SS never wanted to crown, already said we will give away whatever honor received from this war, as long as FS doesn't crown. The other kds hititng fs are on their own accord, unlike the clear gb fs organized with their allies BB, Crazies, Wsk and Pyro. BB, Crazies, Wsk and Pyro had no beef with us, unlike the kds hititng you. On top of that, the majority of kds hitting SS have EOACF with SS in place, therefore clear dealbreaking just to help fs gangbang SS.

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Originally Posted by Duke_

Got lost from all the pro-FS propaganda? Here let me help you: SS never wanted to crown, already said we will give away whatever honor received from this war, as long as FS doesn't crown. The other kds hititng fs are on their own accord, unlike the clear gb fs organized with their allies BB, Crazies, Wsk and Pyro. BB, Crazies, Wsk and Pyro had no beef with us, unlike the kds hititng you. On top of that, the majority of kds hitting SS have EOACF with SS in place, therefore clear dealbreaking just to help fs gangbang SS.

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To verify: you are denying that there is/was a whatsapp group created to organize the GB on FS, and that kds GBing FS have broken EOA deals to do so?

where is blizz at?

@Duke I second that. There is no organized allies hitting FS...just everyone they have screwed over using unmoral playing. None of us even have allies. We have never met SS or any other kingdom against you.

oooh but now you organize BB, Crazies, Wsk and Pyro to hit on a kingdom half their nw? Your cool. The game could loose more players over this. just admit you played unmoral tactics and are bullying. This can go away and we all learned something.

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Originally Posted by Duke_

Got lost from all the pro-FS propaganda? Here let me help you: SS never wanted to crown, already said we will give away whatever honor received from this war, as long as FS doesn't crown. The other kds hititng fs are on their own accord, unlike the clear gb fs organized with their allies BB, Crazies, Wsk and Pyro. BB, Crazies, Wsk and Pyro had no beef with us, unlike the kds hititng you. On top of that, the majority of kds hitting SS have EOACF with SS in place, therefore clear dealbreaking just to help fs gangbang SS.

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Maybe I did, who knows, right? Just riddle me this: if SS doesn't want the crown, what really kept them from accepting the EOACF deal that guaranteed they wouldn't get it? I didn't quite understand the term about not warring the KDs that FS was CFed with, but the other terms sounded reasonable. If you don't care about the numbers on your "honor" meter, that is.
Saying "sure, take it away" can be easily based on the hope that in the end people won't bother, or won't have the time to do so, or whatever other reasons may pop up into existence. If you don't like how the system works - be constructive, propose a better one. I also don't, and I've been on the receiving side of such treatment, from that very FS if I'm not mistaken. But all this act of "righteous judgement taking place"™ is very old and smelly.

Why am I not supriced to see fs in a situation like this huhu...

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Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN

wait, wait - wasnt it you who arranged this war while 22 vs 23 & added 2 provs AFTER the deal was signed? (making it 22 of ours vs 25 of yours)

when you ****play, expect to get the same treatment back..

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I stopped reading right here....I think we will take your advice. I tried to tell you before and so did others, you are breaking your own neck.

would help if you also stopped posting.

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Originally Posted by Exxo

Maybe I did, who knows, right? Just riddle me this: if SS doesn't want the crown, what really kept them from accepting the EOACF deal that guaranteed they wouldn't get it? I didn't quite understand the term about not warring the KDs that FS was CFed with, but the other terms sounded reasonable. If you don't care about the numbers on your "honor" meter, that is.
Saying "sure, take it away" can be easily based on the hope that in the end people won't bother, or won't have the time to do so, or whatever other reasons may pop up into existence. If you don't like how the system works - be constructive, propose a better one. I also don't, and I've been on the receiving side of such treatment, from that very FS if I'm not mistaken. But all this act of "righteous judgement taking place"™ is very old and smelly.

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But you see this cf deal was only proposed by FS after full waving SS (mostly on the tms) when they had agreed war, and in the process destroying any prospect of said war from ever occurring. If FS had responded to SS's message about a cf prior to engagement, or maybe put forward their own cf offer before waving SS, we would have likely come to an agreement. But thats not how it went, they full waved us twice before they were even willing to discuss cf.

Grabs a bag of popcorn. Kicks off shoes and watches the show.

Best historical reference I can think of, SS is england, FS is Nazi Germany. People are mad because Vichy France is getting back into the war after making an agreement under duress with the Nazis