Much enjoying this thread. The e-peens are strong with these ones...
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Much enjoying this thread. The e-peens are strong with these ones...
@anri my memory stretches about half a year. If u did win a war in the last 6 months I apologize.
@jwuzi u guys asked for the war, we merely complied! Last time u beat us u were +3 provs and 10-15% bigger!
So some guys have councils, deep diplomacy, mathematically harness core meta, map out intel and pump projections, set alarms and surrender privacy for instant chat.
I would hope those who've excercised maximum effort still find satisfaction in their sacrifices with their race to the top. Can't let the age be decided so soon. Keep moving ;-)
The one where you guys decided to dodge us and war Sparta instead :(Quote:
Originally Posted by jwuzi
I hope giving Bart the chance to 1 up you guys in every possible conversation about Sparta supremacy is worth the dodge !
This ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by astron
I've heard about Proteus before baka as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
#paykuhan
Who are you?Quote:
Originally Posted by astron
Tip for those who get triggered by bart, don't get triggered by bart lel
He's someone doing diplo in the top, not that you would know about any of that in that Ghetto of yours :PQuote:
Originally Posted by jwuzi
You and I are on the same page, the ages back then were tougher then they are now. No one is denying that. However, you do still have some of the usual suspects running around - flogger's kingdoms / BB, CR, Emeriti, etc. What your argument fails to capture, is Baka/Bio were not good / relevant in the old ages either. As far as for wars they won/lost, its not hard to determine, they were only in range of the top kds for a couple of ages at most. Prior to that they stayed small and did not really interact with the top.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
SPGC did not use the same setup / tactics as the organized large kds that competed for land. They didn't have people on irc idling all the time and use various tools. They really played 'ghetto' from an organizational perspective and still managed to own people like Baka who gang banged them for robbing their gold which was not against the rules or considered a form of ****play. SPGC never beat Sanc in war or ever even warred AFAIK.
Where do you see myself claiming to be super good in this thread? I haven't at all. I've done some things but so have other people and some have done more.
I dislike Baka for a few reasons. He cheats and ****plays. He double teamed my kingdom into active conflicts with top kingdoms on multiple occasions for no reason other than the fact he doesn't like us. Plenty of people here dislike each other but respect fair 1v1 play. He also GBed SPGC for no reason at all. All they did was rob his gold. I had no problems CFing SPGC in the past, i was just nice to Eulrin and we found a way to work things out. Baka also farmed gold from his ally flogger in one of the ages he 2v1ed us. He had come off a pump period when he was CF with everyone but failed to stock gc properly (how hard is it to stock gold when you have CFs with the whole sever) and had to farm gold from flogger and then used it to 2v1 us. Flogger apologized to me for allowing baka to farm gold. The last reason I dislike baka is for his extremely unfounded arrogance. This guy one won crown one time with massive help. He had elite players join his kingdom prior to flogger joining, and then had one of the best players in the history of this game join his kd. The age prior to this Bio was a joke and the age after this Bio was a joke and farmed. So how can you be so cocky when that is your single claim to fame. Its funny how he has the nerve to compare his kd to kds like Sanc/Rage that have a true track record for being great.
Also baka forgets that I know some of the players that were in Bio prior to flogger joining because I lead kds with them in the past or people I played with (i.e. Snirpsner/rocky/princess/cheese/etc) who gave the details on how many top players had to join Bio, what a joke it still was, how Baka has no clue what he is doing, the impact flogger had, etc. At the end of the day, Bio won ONCE, Big deal, everyone has one crown in this game - just look at WarCry (game was 100x more competitive back when they won), SWEA, etc. The other thing Baka choses is to ignore, the following age Bio was competing again with flogger in the kd and they got utterly destroyed. Then flogger left and Bio had an age or two where they were in range of the top and the got farmed to 50% NW by us and disbanded. If you have a grudge against someone and wanna claim you got one over them, are better than them, whatever - it doesnt really help when you can't claim to have beaten that kd more times then you have lost to them, or at the very least be able to say you beat them in war once. Baka can't say any of that. All he can do is gloat about being able to 2v1 someone but then still get farmed when that kd fought back 1v2. How the hell does someone lose 2v1?
Also if you read Baka's posts closely, he keeps on talking about *ONE AGE* where he won something with a ton of help. That says it all right there. It would be kinda like WarCry talking about the single crown they ever won and how they 'owned' everyone. For people that have done decent, its all about consistency. Any one can win something once. Your boy Mansoor won a crown, he exploited a situation well and things came together in a way they let them do it. But is he a top SKD leader? Could he repeat that crown in multiple ages or consistently finish T3 and win wars against other top kds, probably not. Thats your answer right there, Baka has to really stretch to pretend he is anything but a skidmark in the underbelly of utopia and can point to one charity crown. I never made a single post claiming to be anything in here but could easily name a handful of ages where my kd has farmed Bio. Its like anything else, numbers don't lie.
Failed to mention BIO farming the hell out of the only kd you actually led.
7 beers boy. Sit down!
The age I founded FS with Kire, Snirpsner, Princess, and Cheese we did not even war BIO nor interact with them. That was an Abs vs. The Mexicans Age, our only conflicts were with Abs. The following age, I left the KD about 3 weeks in because I felt we were not ready to compete with Abs head to head but Cheese did not want to CF any Abs kds, so I was invited to join Insolence with Wannes, was there for an age prior to being invited by ASF to lead Rage. I think you might have your history confused or you might have warred FS a few ages later when I and others were no longer there. Feel free to message Rens or Princess to verify, they will say the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by baka
I know you are really stretching to say you ever got something over me, but there is no need to make up fake stories. Also its funny to say who is actually leading a kd vs. not when you do not even play in it. Why don't you go and message ASF and ask him?
Also don't forget that you (1) farmed gold from flogger -> (2) hit us into active hostile with Psychward (former Fury of Abs after going solo led by Ervgotti / Simkin) -> (3) threatened to farm us after we were done with war -> (4) edited all of your posts after you saw us farm PW and didn't even have the guts to wave us even though you were OOW and we just ended war -> (5) we waved you ourselves, got war, and -> (6) Farmed you to 50% our NW even though we both started on EVEN ACRES! -> (7) you lied about getting into a car accident and your kd disbanded after.
How the hell do you manage to lose a 2v1 and then get farmed by a kd that just ended war without any strong EOW recovery mechanics. Also how often do you see someone farm out to 50% NW? Keep talking about those 7 beers, they farmed and disbanded you.
Nope, pretty sure it was you.
Because after that was the day I realized how bad you were.
Ive never lost a war to Baka nub and his BiO Farmouts
Pretty sure I know better than you do who the kd I helped form fought the first 2 ages of its existence. You are welcome to hit up anyone on irc to confirm.Quote:
Originally Posted by baka
Also how do you get farmed to 50% NW after starting on even acres by a kd you 2v1ed thats led by someone so bad. What does that say about you. Oh yeah, you got into a "car accident"..I remember. Oh yeah, I was never a leader in that kd, I was too busy riding coat tails while drinking 6-7 beers. Guess you're right, my logic is utterly useless. Guess I need to flipflop and join the club, HAIL BIO's CHARITY CROWN!
You were never a leader in any kingdom except Funshow.
What about Anri did he beat you or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Binar
I think Anri has a win or two
I think a lot of it depends on what you consider a win. Technically FS won a war against Emeriti age 65 while I was playing there, but that was just an aftermath of an Alliance War and I don't consider it a real war win. One day Binar, one day...
I didnt play in Emeriti that age, neither did proteusQuote:
Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija
They were still one of the better KDs on the server, just like now. I don't consider it my win either. It does seem that during that period BB had a good track record against Emeriti though (even beat them in their Ghetto age when they started with 13 provs or something like that). Nice to see Emeriti came back stronger than ever :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Binar
I take full credit. Proteus,dorje and zerocool are just posterboys
I'd swap them with someone newer, more motivated etc. :D
Yeah, get me Bart
3x Bart <3
1 is more than enough
Enough is too little when it comes to Bart.
This bambino Baka reminds of Vlahul. Coming in here all big mouth blazing guns from 15 ages ago bla bla. Everyone knows whats happened to Vlahul when crossing spartans path. Cant wait for this bambino Baka to meet same destiny.
Can you take full blame too or i need to split it :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Binar
Actually.... they have already met !Quote:
Originally Posted by el-chingatumadre
sureQuote:
Originally Posted by Elit
Erm... we already met this age with Spartans and let's just say it wasn't pretty for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by el-chingatumadre
Even though I didn't lead that war, when I looked at the intel a few hours before surrender it was clear you were going to lose long-term. We found out it was FS we were fighting, and didn't want to get stuck in a ghetto-war for 2 weeks. So we pulled out to stay in the whoring race :)Quote:
Originally Posted by baka
Aren't eastern Europeans always drunk?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Elit
ps. Utopia meeting would be cool! Wonder if Sean, Brian & Bishop would attend ;)
Woah, baka v Proteus, makes me think we're back in 2005!
While no secret baka likes to brag a bit, you are at least a degree worse on that front than baka. You consistently brag about achievements and records.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
False. I got my killers hit in a hostile by Drixx (Fury I think?) and later turned it it was because Hawk told him/them to do it :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
I would rather call it known/good. Famous/legendary are only for a select few IMO. Of course he's not terrible (except that one time were #teamFeyr+prot bounced like 3 of his hits in a row!), but the same can be said about baka. I can't really judge their leading skills, but both are capable of running a province without being micro'd. That's worth quite a bit when recruiting. The less micro needed, the easier it is for a leader. Kind of like how Zauper posted earlier, about not needing to worry about who to pool up if said province is in best spot to be pooled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
Proteus has strong ties with Absalom due to his past, so taking him into Emeriti is no real surprise.
As for last age, Emeriti and Pyro had the strongest OOP's. CR then got smashed by Pyro, so by then Emeriti had probably won the age already. While the 2 warred, Emeriti was able to whore. Early on, whoring beats warring (except a mintime farm). Based on that it wasn't really a surprise.
Sure, later FS gave it a shot but their setup/science was inferior to Emeriti's. That fight was more a question of how much Emeriti would gain rather than if they would win.
I think fights you can't really lose are a bad comparison to what Korp probably means. A 50/50 fight is probably the best benchmark, but they rarely happen. You can say you beat CR, but you beat like a half CR due to the odds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
And in Panda's defense, they lost from an inferior position to us last age (even tho we didn't want the war lol) and they did 'beat' Jesters this age while coming from a dealbreak (I think longterm they would have gotten a 50% win).
And who are you? Show us your resumé!Quote:
Originally Posted by el-chingatumadre
ps. baka & spartans already met this age and baka came out as winner!
Big post so just used 2 dots (.)Quote:
Originally Posted by protector
Getting Proteus back was indeed my best/worst decision :P I Pushed Binar to get Proteus and he reluctantly came back to utopia!! :D
But the good news is, We are back in 2005 (as u said before) and its super fun to see the old tards back and fighting :D
Yes now with Baka and Proteus i don't need to play much in forum. He is going to stay active and hot!Quote:
Originally Posted by Judge
I'm going to close this is it isnt put back on topic.
If baka and proteus want to go hug it out in another thread me my guest
Noo don't close it! We Spartans want the longest thread of the age! Let me go back to saying how noobish Pandas are so we argue over that!