AMA vs sanct round 2

DHaran
If everyone knew that, AMA should have pursued a CF with a Sanc. If it was a non-Abs kd this wouldn't be an issue, thus the double standard. It was undefended gc taken by a non-CFed kd and it was not into any type of hostile. There is nothing to even talk about here. AMA made a mistake and put themselves in a bad spot.


Nose in abs butt much ?

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Originally Posted by guard14n

DHaran
If everyone knew that, AMA should have pursued a CF with a Sanc. If it was a non-Abs kd this wouldn't be an issue, thus the double standard. It was undefended gc taken by a non-CFed kd and it was not into any type of hostile. There is nothing to even talk about here. AMA made a mistake and put themselves in a bad spot.


Nose in abs butt much ?

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Nose in elit's butt much ?

So basically when HoH (or any kingdom really) are say...exploring a couple cows up, and we're nice and fat, even if we decide to run no thieves to clear TBs, and Cat's steal from said kd, but they have been noticed by a kingdom (any kingdom that has an active NAP with Cat's), you guys can't continue your notice and wave kingdom in question, because Cat's would be beginning hostilities by stealing.


Same thing or different? Because if it's the same thing, next age, Cat's can rob us all age, cf all our enemies and we get dibs all age on not being waved while we just explore with low dpa and no thieves. Sounds like a good deal to me imo...

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Originally Posted by Bishop

Please don't chain post, edit or use the multiquote button.

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Oops sorry, my bad.

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Originally Posted by jamin

Same thing or different? Because if it's the same thing, next age, Cat's can rob us all age, cf all our enemies and we get dibs all age on not being waved while we just explore with low dpa and no thieves. Sounds like a good deal to me imo...

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From what has been said in the thread so far there is a specific part in the clause cf agreement between Havoc and MA that forbids notices during hostiles and the like. Also sanct is not just any random kd, they are allied with Havoc. These are the two key issues in the conflict not the stealing itself, if it had been random nub who did it that's something completely different but when it's an ally of the noticing kingdom that obviously changes things.

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Originally Posted by Korp

Lykron - If someone steals gold from you, you will bend over like a *****? Cause some noticed you..

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i wouldn't run like a ***** from a fight using some stolen gold as excuse.

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Originally Posted by Elldallan

Since Rage has done worse(sending notice right before war so you could set up for vulturing right after eowcf) you have absolutely no right to complain when Elit sends a fair notice after eowcf is over, rage had plenty of time to prepare(all of eowcf plus whatever notice period) if that was not enough then you should have demanded a longer notice period. The is probably that you didn't expect MA to notice so you didn't prepare and was caught with your pants down which is silly when you know cf period is ending.
But you have absolutely no right to complain when Rage has clearly done worse things under your leadership so stop the whining, you knew cf period was ending and you had ample time to prepare(hell MA apparently got ready with just the eowcf this time) you should have made sure to either be in an unassailable position or pumped so that a war would have been unpreferable to MA, you chose instead to go back to whoring and Elit took advantage of that. You would have done the same given even half a chance so stop whining about it.

There is no connection to be made, if you wanna be competitive with Abs you have to be ruthless because everyone knows you will do whatever it takes to crown one of your kingdoms no matter what dirty play is included. MA wants to crown so they have to go after you aggressively, noone plays in the top5 for the sake of playing in top5, everyone is competing for the same thing.



If this was a non-Abs kd it wouldn't have been an issue because the situation would be completely different. The non-Abs kd wouldn't be allied with Havoc and wouldn't have intimate knowledge of what and when Havoc is planning. Hence no double standards.
If it had been any non-Abs kd then yes Elit would have deserved it because it's a stupid move to come out of postwar with 100k solds and 300M gc or whatever the numbers where but when the "perpetrator" is an ally of the kd doing the notice it changes everything into something completely different.

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Atleast 50% of your post is filled with inaccuracies so you don't really know the situation nor what you are talking about. Unlike elit, i was not whining. The point of that exceed ise is to demonstrate that elit has vultured kingdoms and thought it was ok but whined when he got vultured himself.

Also notice whats going on here in his early posts he went on to say that havocs notice "was clear dealbreak" now he acknowledges the notice as valid. This was known all along he just knew his goose was cooked and was scrambling to prevent the notice.

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Originally Posted by Elitbg

When some one is mess with me he get same in return. If Havoc hit us during our active hostile its will be retaled same way in future ages them or another abs kd. Don't have any problem to return what i got. My kd chann is #forfun, its say enough!

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now you start to sound like Anri :P

Jamin are you just stupid or are you just a woman?

How is that even the same thing. Havoc notices, Sanc, their alliance member, go steal 100 millions of gc, you think AMA gonna sit still? They attacked them, putting them into a real hostile, not the fake coward one you are referring to. The thing is there is one alliance left, it is absalom, if you powerplay like this and not play 1vs1 of course utopian community will not accept this.

And what is this **** about vulturing, you get 4 days of end of war cf, if you cannot pump up and be war ready in those 4 days you are worthless piece of garbage. But don't come here complaining it is a vulture because it isn't anymore. it is like saying I raped Belle cause i spanked her on the ass. Seriously.

Last, it is time people understand to never make notice deals, just make plain and simple deals that CF runs out that day and so on...learn people learn! ABs are jew...els.

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Originally Posted by Lykron

i wouldn't run like a ***** from a fight using some stolen gold as excuse.

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And you are a fool if you think MA expected to run from Havoc because no matter how this plays out(barring the extremely unlikely event that sanct wars MA again) MA will be in a worse position than a full eowcf+48h notice. MA cannot run from Havoc and they know it, havoc on the other hand obviously don't feel confident in their chances to win a war(and given how sanct got their asses completely handed to them despite having a much better war setup than Havoc does that is understandable) since they have to call in their ally sanct to help with the gangbang.

No Abs planned this down to the minute so as to give Havoc the best chance to crown, they realise they cannot win 1v1 so they have to make this Abs vs MA and that is an ugly and absolutely despicable move.

Lykron ... hahah u ABS "players" are so funny. U keep making shallow excuses to go alliance vs a kd :) My nose is not in Elit's butt its just that i dont like the whole idea of ABS. Its killing the game. And if this kind of gameplay continues people will keep quitting. U guys exploit the game since the moment u were created. U cheat u bully and u dont give a tiny rat's ass for developing the game. All u care is one of urs gets the titles at any cost. I like that there is someone like Elit there or Anri or whoever just to *****slap u when the time comes.

The funny part is that even tho all of abs is bashing this thread all ur arguments are shallow and simple minded. The fact is a fact - ABS keeps exploiting the game and keeps going 100 vs 25.

Bottom point - if u wanna prove u are good - get a crown alone. If u wanna bully people - go to ABS. Its always good when u are more. :) U kinda remind me of gypsies - u cant do sh*t alone so u gang up and get str in numbers :) As i said before - No balls guys :D

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Originally Posted by Lykron

i wouldn't run like a ***** from a fight using some stolen gold as excuse.

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You think its was funny for us to get robed and cant prepare for havoc and war them proper? Havoc spend 6 weeks to pump for this war. We had post war+48h notice for prepare. Do you think interfere from sanctuary don't hurt us much? Its lame what did Sanctuary. They loss his war. Was time for move on and ask for cf us. Don't blame AMA when its all Sanctuary fault to interfere.

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Originally Posted by Lykron

now you start to sound like Anri :P

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You mean i'm going to be popular and famous :P

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Originally Posted by Mansoor

How is that even the same thing. Havoc notices, Sanc, their alliance member, go steal 100 millions of gc, you think AMA gonna sit still? They attacked them, putting them into a real hostile, not the fake coward one you are referring to. The thing is there is one alliance left, it is absalom, if you powerplay like this and not play 1vs1 of course utopian community will not accept this.

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Mansoor, are you blind? We are "allied with Abs" and we have a NAP. If another kingdom, say kingdom x has a NAP with kingdom y....how is that any different from what HoH has with Abs? I'm not stupid...that isn't brain surgery it is absolutely simple.

In my example I gave I stated the NAP with Cats (in that example). It is no different, hell, Cat's steal in an ACTIVE hostile, if Sanc did that while you guys waved/were being waved by Havoc, the whole forums would be in uproar with "Abs powerplay". You are just lucky Havoc is more honourable than you guys are, or else they would have just waved you while Sanctuary was stealing....which if it was any smart and reasonable kingdom in Sanc's shoes, they would have done the same thing.


Mansoor's Guide To Winning On The Interwebz:

Step 1 Name Calling:

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Originally Posted by Mansoor

you are worthless piece of garbage. But don't come here complaining it is a vulture because it isn't anymore. it is like saying I raped Belle cause i spanked her on the ass. Seriously.

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Step 2 Be Sexist:

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Originally Posted by Mansoor

Jamin are you just stupid or are you just a woman?

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Step 3 Bring Up The Jews (but add ...els so as not to intentionally come off as a Neo-Nazi tard)

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Originally Posted by Mansoor

ABs are jew...els.

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Watch the language, bans inc if i see any more.

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Originally Posted by Mansoor

Jamin are you just stupid or are you just a woman?

How is that even the same thing. Havoc notices, Sanc, their alliance member, go steal 100 millions of gc, you think AMA gonna sit still? They attacked them, putting them into a real hostile, not the fake coward one you are referring to. The thing is there is one alliance left, it is absalom, if you powerplay like this and not play 1vs1 of course utopian community will not accept this.

And what is this **** about vulturing, you get 4 days of end of war cf, if you cannot pump up and be war ready in those 4 days you are worthless piece of garbage. But don't come here complaining it is a vulture because it isn't anymore. it is like saying I raped Belle cause i spanked her on the ass. Seriously.

Last, it is time people understand to never make notice deals, just make plain and simple deals that CF runs out that day and so on...learn people learn! ABs are jew...els.

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Soor...why so confrontational and angry? :( be nice to jews and women...we had both in our kd.

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Originally Posted by guard14n

Lykron ... hahah u ABS "players" are so funny. U keep making shallow excuses to go alliance vs a kd :) My nose is not in Elit's butt its just that i dont like the whole idea of ABS. Its killing the game. And if this kind of gameplay continues people will keep quitting. U guys exploit the game since the moment u were created. U cheat u bully and u dont give a tiny rat's ass for developing the game. All u care is one of urs gets the titles at any cost. I like that there is someone like Elit there or Anri or whoever just to *****slap u when the time comes.

The funny part is that even tho all of abs is bashing this thread all ur arguments are shallow and simple minded. The fact is a fact - ABS keeps exploiting the game and keeps going 100 vs 25.

Bottom point - if u wanna prove u are good - get a crown alone. If u wanna bully people - go to ABS. Its always good when u are more. :) U kinda remind me of gypsies - u cant do sh*t alone so u gang up and get str in numbers :) As i said before - No balls guys :D

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logc isn't your strong point. not everyone who has a different opinion is an abs player. as a matter of fact i am not. just because you don't like abs and think about quitting it doesn't mean dozens of other ppl have quit because of them. every alliance, official or non official exploits the game environment. this is why it's there: to be exploited. abs hasn't even won most of the ages to be able to mention that they dominate this game so dunno why you are so butthurt against them.
show me where 100 abs players are attacking 25 ama players. maybe i missed that. nobody has ever won a crown w/o having friends/allies in top. you must be deluded to think otherwise. great comment about gypsies: a racist comment was all that this thread was lacking and it just shows what kind of person you are.