I believe this is HoH's second crown, my first (if it happens- the whole counting chickens proverb).
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Rage got trolololllolol
It's cute that you think you are in a position to call Rage "shady" Mr. "I lead another kingdoms war to get you in a position to get farmed" or is it Mr. "I think threatening to or actually doing multiple kingdom gangbangs is equivalent to following the exact lines of the deal/robbing bio".
PS. You played a dirty round, Rage played a relatively clean one. The only thing you can say we didn't do "cleanly" was noticing you at a time you didn't like. Even that is a pretty huge stretch.
You realize i've played in abs, right? Do you think when in abs we never helped eachother in council with eachothers wars? We had ASF/Dorje/Me/Rock ALL helping trinity vs Sonata one age. If its Dirty then I first did it in abs.
Leadership is very very hard to find these days. If an ally of mine has their leaders all on vacation I don't find it dirty to help them not get farmed. Do you?
The point of notice deals that aren't to be given during hostile/war/eow is to not have to deal with other kingdoms when you're hostile/war/eow. Giving it 1 hour before a notice expires with another kingdom is nothing but lame. If you can't be trusted to be not do lame things with notices, I suppose the easiest solution is to just ensure that kingdom doesn't get notice deals.
Given that Rage screwed over OS by backing out of the deal I made with them to frickin help them when they got dealbroken with hellrazor and then used that notice bull vs BIO to get a free wave on us its obviously clear that Rage under their current leadership doesn't ever feel like fighting someone without some sort of advantage via lame diplomacy, I find it quite humorous that they spent all age not fighting any legit wars and just doing whatever they could to try to gain acres, yet they won't crown and severely hurt their diplomacy ability going forward. I couldn't be happier with the result.
As for the fight with Cats. I admitted I should have been more active in seeking them out on IRC to try to resolve the issue prior to taking it where I took it. The level I took it was a drastic one and I should have done more before going there.
However I don't believe anyone should op someone for months without stopping and not responding to in-game messages to resolve it. Prior to cats last age, the only kingdoms I'm aware of that did that were shells and they generally got gangbanged. The only difference here is that cats weren't a shell and they're lovable.
obviously simians was xlogging again. probably on both sides of the war
There is a distinction between helping an ally run a war for their benefit and using an ally for your benefit. I have no problem with the former, but you admitted to the latter which I find "lame".
I am surprised about this suggestion that we "screwed over OS"? They never actually negotiated a confirmed cf deal with Abs at all for the help with Hellrazor, we tracked them down and gave them a week long extension because we believed that was fair. That seems to me not "screwing" with someone at all, if we had wanted to "screw them" we would have given them notice as soon as we were ready rather than giving an extension. If mod or OS feels that we acted unfairly to them why didn't he bring it up at that time? Why hasn't it been brought up at all except by you?
I don't necessarily dispute that the way we noticed was "lame" but it was perfectly within the way the deal was structured. For someone who is notorious for doing the same thing I find it disingenuous to really be particularly upset about it. We treated you "lamely" because you harassed us, maybe next time after someone fights a tough war you won't message them the moment it ends with threats.
And no legitimate wars? Seriously? We warred fury when they were number 1, is that not legitimate? Is the OS war not legitimate after they had over a week to prepare for it? Seriously? I am not sure why you feel the need to publicly disparage your ally, they fought hard against us. This is just coming across like you are a sore loser after a pretty mediocre age for BiO.
I thought of a new name for you though, maybe I should call you "Mr.It's okay to farm gold to my allies" instead?
And yes, we won't crown this age. But we had a great age with solid wars and dominant play all round. I am proud of my kingdoms performance, circumstances outside our control lead to us not winning which while disappointing isn't the end of the world. Although even this isn't fully true, we likely could have won if we were willing to try to take on Simians and take acres the way Sanctuary did (perhaps continuing to hit into the war to take acres as much as we could). But contrary to your suggestion (and perhaps Simians should back me up on this) we negotiate in good faith with those who treat us in good faith. I'm curious if BiO would have done the same in similar circumstances, but considering you are willing to gangbang a kingdom over some gold I think the answer is clear.
I am also pretty proud of HoH for a great age for them. They really turned it around this age and deserve a win. I am not happy with the circumstances but we don't begrudge them the victory. At the end of the day they are our ally and them winning has to be put in the win column.
Yup, put a win in the abs column for HoH.
Have we won yet?
lol, well thank you Elitbg.
Infact i think we might be deserving that award the last 3 ages for all wicked moves we have done.
Wartague: Some people get their A** handed to them, and then come on the forums trolling. Its just a way to resume control of a situation. Doesn't mean anything they say is true, they just know that the only shot they have at beating you is to use words. They sure didn't play like a kingdom that can hang.
Simians has no problems farming out and coming back stronger from it the next age. Just like HoH in comparising from last age to this age.
GG to all this age :)
!!!!!~~~~~~~anris girlfriend is hot~~~~~~!!!!!!!!!
agree mav and happy trip anri see you in 16 days :D perfect for next age (age 55 kill sanc age)
dev shuld name age to kill sanc age ....
If HoH isn't abs, then will they notice you when you leave the war so they can take the crown?
What is the difference? A tagg after the KD name? They are allies. Not tagged under the same alliance name but they act, walk and talk like the rest.
Even when one does diplomacy with absalom they always include HoH into their deals and speak for them. Sure, they are allies only. But tell me DHaran what seperates HoH from absalom? They walk hand in hand for ages now.
What? Why are you trying to argue with me when you said the same thing I just said? lol...
hoh is abs, dont think anyone is arguing with you anri. Abs wins another age you got to pick what abs kd wins when you decided who you would war. Seemed sanctuary deserved it being as they called you out and asked you but you thought hoh was easier and failed there...
I might have missinterputed.
I am not arguing. I am happy we all can agree this one time! :P
The world is just not interesting if we all agree always thou.
This will be a rare occassion. Embrace it!
I think it has become pretty apparent that HoH has become a top 1-3 kd depending on who you ask. The past failures and incompetencies to to be behind them and the future looks bright.
If anything I would be wary and not take them so lightly the next time a kd tries to war them. Next time if I have a choice of 3 abs/hall kd's I think I would go Sanct, Rage, HoH in that order of who to pick a fight with. Rage and HoH would be a toss up, too bad thier cf'd it I think it would make for a good fight.
HoH is a good kingdom but they are certainly not better than Rage, Sanctuary or BiO. They have done a lot to improve their kingdoms standing this age, but only last age they farmed out to BiO. They can certainly outperform those kingdoms in the right circumstances, but they have a long way to go before they are the best kingdom.
DHaran this is a kingdom game, and Proteus took an off age this round.
Why has no one told me who was deleted for farming yet? :(
I don't remember suspensions even being an option on the old code. It was deletion or bust...