Spartans Vs Nonpandas

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Noo don't close it! We Spartans want the longest thread of the age! Let me go back to saying how noobish Pandas are so we argue over that!

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Longest was during CR GBing AMA age 60 if remember right. 100+ pages. You have long way to go for it :P
Your time is over here try to build new better drama!

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Originally Posted by Elit

Longest was during CR GBing AMA age 60 if remember right. 100+ pages. You have long way to go for it :P
Your time is over here try to build new better drama!

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Age win is different from all time records Elit.

Just because you hold all time drama bomb doesn't mean Bart can't aspire to win this age forum war. ;)

He's not famous/legendary yet but he's getting there.

In all fairness I've actually had conflicts that spanned over more than 100 pages on the forums, but sadly peopel chose to make side-topics related to it, so a lot of the fights were spread out. Lemme calc the FS one last age!

Edit: Seems I was quite a bit off. The Feyrplay ****play (Feyrplay calls it "Spartans DB FS") on us last age was only 38 pages combined.

http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...vs-Pyromaniacs - 29 pages
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...32529-Spartans - 18 pages
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...as-vs-Spartans - 13 pages
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...Bashing-Thread - 12 pages
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...ghting-Ferrets - 26 pages
http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...eyond-Reproach - 21 pages

Will try and outdo that this age!

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Originally Posted by protector

Woah, baka v Proteus, makes me think we're back in 2005!


While no secret baka likes to brag a bit, you are at least a degree worse on that front than baka. You consistently brag about achievements and records.


False. I got my killers hit in a hostile by Drixx (Fury I think?) and later turned it it was because Hawk told him/them to do it :p


I would rather call it known/good. Famous/legendary are only for a select few IMO. Of course he's not terrible (except that one time were #teamFeyr+prot bounced like 3 of his hits in a row!), but the same can be said about baka. I can't really judge their leading skills, but both are capable of running a province without being micro'd. That's worth quite a bit when recruiting. The less micro needed, the easier it is for a leader. Kind of like how Zauper posted earlier, about not needing to worry about who to pool up if said province is in best spot to be pooled.
Proteus has strong ties with Absalom due to his past, so taking him into Emeriti is no real surprise.

As for last age, Emeriti and Pyro had the strongest OOP's. CR then got smashed by Pyro, so by then Emeriti had probably won the age already. While the 2 warred, Emeriti was able to whore. Early on, whoring beats warring (except a mintime farm). Based on that it wasn't really a surprise.
Sure, later FS gave it a shot but their setup/science was inferior to Emeriti's. That fight was more a question of how much Emeriti would gain rather than if they would win.


I think fights you can't really lose are a bad comparison to what Korp probably means. A 50/50 fight is probably the best benchmark, but they rarely happen. You can say you beat CR, but you beat like a half CR due to the odds.

And in Panda's defense, they lost from an inferior position to us last age (even tho we didn't want the war lol) and they did 'beat' Jesters this age while coming from a dealbreak (I think longterm they would have gotten a 50% win).

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Prot i think you missed a couple of points but overall a decent post / response.

You hit the nail on the head, I used to talk lots of smack about results back in the day. I would also live up to what I said though (I.e telling someone we would beat them and then doing it) that kinda why people tended to not like me as id talk smack to them but then also win the fight. Generally it's awesome when someone **** talks you and then farms out, kinda like karma and you aren't left mad at that person because he owned himself.

However, I haven't really attempted to do that here now or since returning last age. My post was in response to baka's unfounded arrogance towards Bart and coming back to reform bio. I needed to remind Baka that aside from his one win the age flogger and a bunch of others joined his kd to make it happen, he hasn't done anything and has lots of losses (big ones) to top kds. No where did I attempt to say anything to praise myself or even compare myself.

If you want to talk down to someone and claim you owned them, etc. it would really help to have a winning record vs that kingdom/player/leader. Baka doesn't. With that said I didn't go and talk about my results or crowns won or kds I lead or whatever. I just said Baka hasn't done anything, and also **** played blatantly. I have him in the same category as I have Mansoor. That's all.

The bounce comment isn't really a fair one. A couple of our leaders got bounced in that war. That was actually the age I was playing on my phone for majority of the age, that was included and would take Intel 1x on phone and try to hit, and yes got bounced. Doesn't really compare when you setup multiple screens on your desktop for cow hits, etc. you guys had a super kd that age with the pulsing trollfags and beat everyone and won, that was a very good age for ya'll. The following age we beat flogger 3x in war and they finished small. I mean position changes every age. Flogger got the kudos for a good age but he also had Dirty there, who really is legendary.

As for me I don't consider myself an all time best, legendary, or anything like that would need to be playing and leading a lot earlier then when I actually started and also be able to win as well. I'm just competent and confident in my ability to lead a solid kingdom and be able to compete against people that are considered all time greats (flogger/elit/etc) and be able to win wars against them / win a crown when they are competing.

Your second part of that post kinda reads like I joined as a core player to play a province :p

Damn now this thread will be closed :(

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Damn now this thread will be closed :(

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If the fight is over i dont see why it should not be closed. There is really nothing more to discuss in here. Ive seen way more active threads that was still not derailed this much getting closed for far less.

How 'bout them cowboys!?

Rematch? Rubber match? Later in the age?

Okay I had my fun... just wanted to bring back some good ole 2006 times..

Back to slacking off with my prov...

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Originally Posted by Anri

If the fight is over i dont see why it should not be closed. There is really nothing more to discuss in here. Ive seen way more active threads that was still not derailed this much getting closed for far less.

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You will only see it once you understand it! (John Cruyff).

Pandas farming out now to Emeriti and BB. I like it! Chartshaping FTW <3

I figured that rather turning into you, I'd let you guys become meeeeee, and I'm succeeding soso fast ^^

This should net gain a couple of more pages, no?

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Prot i think you missed a couple of points but overall a decent post / response.

You hit the nail on the head, I used to talk lots of smack about results back in the day. I would also live up to what I said though (I.e telling someone we would beat them and then doing it) that kinda why people tended to not like me as id talk smack to them but then also win the fight. Generally it's awesome when someone **** talks you and then farms out, kinda like karma and you aren't left mad at that person because he owned himself.

However, I haven't really attempted to do that here now or since returning last age. My post was in response to baka's unfounded arrogance towards Bart and coming back to reform bio. I needed to remind Baka that aside from his one win the age flogger and a bunch of others joined his kd to make it happen, he hasn't done anything and has lots of losses (big ones) to top kds. No where did I attempt to say anything to praise myself or even compare myself.

If you want to talk down to someone and claim you owned them, etc. it would really help to have a winning record vs that kingdom/player/leader. Baka doesn't. With that said I didn't go and talk about my results or crowns won or kds I lead or whatever. I just said Baka hasn't done anything, and also **** played blatantly. I have him in the same category as I have Mansoor. That's all.

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I'd welcome him reforming BiO. What the game needs is more leaders running a kingdom. Is baka the best? Nah. But he's good enough to run a kingdom and make it function. I think in current age, with the revamped science system, the difference between the top and the rest boils down to knowing how to whore and set your CFs so the curve has somewhat slimmed. Not needing to plan science pump OR not having to fight from a massive science difference makes a big difference.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

The bounce comment isn't really a fair one.

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Oh come on, it was fun! :P
I'd probably check whats going on though after 1st bounce.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

The following age we beat flogger 3x in war and they finished small. I mean position changes every age. Flogger got the kudos for a good age but he also had Dirty there, who really is legendary.

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Well, we had to war Mercy, then fight you right after. I find it hardly surprising we'd lose then. I dont think you did either, at the time. The other 2 wars were purely to hurt you since you declined any form of CFs. I think we succeeded in gaining? land in those wars due to our spread. I think hesus did end up taking province crown as a result though, since he could farm acres all war.

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Originally Posted by Proteus

Your second part of that post kinda reads like I joined as a core player to play a province :p

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It was general speaking. I don't know your current role. Probably on Binar's leash ;)

What's the precedent to farming out / taking a competitor's land during an active notice?!

Rather they intra'd.

Active notice, I like it, has a good ring to it, almost like active hostile but different.

No idea Erv. Must say I personally prefer setting precedent over following it!

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Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta

Pandas farming out now to Emeriti and BB. I like it! Chartshaping FTW <3

I figured that rather turning into you, I'd let you guys become meeeeee, and I'm succeeding soso fast ^^

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so are you admitting to chartshaping? looks like it. didnt you deny this last age? or the age before? im enlightened as to why your arguments often dont carry much weight.

My opinion on it is that "42" are still pansies and ran once they didnt have a big size advantage.

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Originally Posted by s7ark

so are you admitting to chartshaping? looks like it. didnt you deny this last age? or the age before? im enlightened as to why your arguments often dont carry much weight.

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I've abandoned all reason and logic ever since I've said OK to anything Bart said. Only blind love can sustain my views of Bart.

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Originally Posted by Lowed420

My opinion on it is that "42" are still pansies and ran once they didnt have a big size advantage.

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42 is dead.

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Originally Posted by Anri

42 is dead.

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Its sad!
At least bring back Simians so i can curse you all over forums ;)

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Originally Posted by Anri

42 is dead.

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172 left to go!

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Originally Posted by Elit

Its sad!
At least bring back Simians so i can curse you all over forums ;)

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I got a better idea. Bring back ama and lets be friends. Im to old for all of this online drama now.

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Originally Posted by Anri

I got a better idea. Bring back ama and lets be friends. Im to old for all of this online drama now.

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Its was sincere propose so i can let it go.
Still i have Binar he is much energetic and ASF keep correct me with his wrong arguments!

yeiiiii

high five

left hanging, not cool Elit. Back to enemies?

It's called frenemies.

What happened to not pandas?

Frugal still in jesters? Still bitter about the conflict / trying to rub it in? Bring back the dual tablet avatar!

ps
I am not sure but I would wager it was 10% the loss 20% the rage and so on.....

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Originally Posted by octobrev

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You see the foreshadowing in that scene don't you? RIP Sparta?

Im not as dumb or honorable as Sir Eddard. Pandas have been defecting provs to corcumvent the frre CF I gave them when the rest of my KD clamoured for tax or B2B. Oh, and that was after farming out:10-15K land to out competition.

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I can only speak for myself. I came back to play with Vir and Hesus and to have fun trying to crown. This failed for various reasons, then Coss decided to take over and make deals to drop our KD down when many still wanted to compete, KD sort of revolted against this LD and in the end of the day it made Coss rage, getting intra KD, getting deletions from him and his players and other players giving up the age.

I for one was a core player and i think Coss is a funny guy, but i wont be lead by a man that rage-quit every age and have no real ambition for the KD, i could go on and on about it.

I defected out and abandoned the prov so that the new KD can choose to put a new player into the acc or just have it deleted.

Now, i will wait 1-2 ages until i play again and when i do i want to compete.
I also made sure to voice my opinion to all that i don't respect FSU play and LDs to anyone and advised strongly against it. Just because it happen to us we don't need to do it against anyone else.

Peace out

Don't be silly Anri and don't twist facts. First of ... I did leave before the war with sparta cause I didn't agree with the war plan and the choice hesus made. Hesus called me back after the war. Once I got back several people(leadership especially) said they would leave even if hesus assured me just 1 or 2 guys max would leave and we'd have to find maybe 2-3 players. Out of nowhere I was counting around 8-9 empty provinces. I told hesus I will not lead such a kd and try to rebuild it cause I don't have the time nor nerves for it. Once I said I will leave out of nowhere all the people that said they would leave were ... not leaving anymore and that includes you. Because you didn't bother to check, I was still having access to leadership channel via munk and saw discussions about me where both you and vir were eating a LOT of poo. I then deleted, informed my guys about how much trash you eat about me and our old kd Sleepy and they did what they considered best.

Unlike several ages back when we had another experiment like this and and hesus managed to get away with a couple of guys from my crew this time it didn't work well for you. And all the discussion Loons had about making me look bad so my guys would not leave with me are as idiotic as she is. What can I say ... I blame it all on hesus for being inactive and not interested and leaving a bunch of noobs to lead a kd that could kick a$$ but instead went to trash. In the end is the choices you make that keeps or not a kd alive. And hesus choose Vir and failed with it.

PS: You can twist the stuff as much as you want, end of the day you made this kd go south as well by going with Vir in all his stupid decisions, including the trashtalk.
PS2: One of us will still be playing in top next age and it ain't you;)

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Originally Posted by coss

PS2: One of us will still be playing in top next age and it ain't you;)

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Best of luck in your new top KD, may it be prosperous!
Where i will be playing and if i will be playing i dont know yet, nor do you.

Edit: No point to discuss the rest of your post because we will just disagree with a lot of things.

Whatever name you guys go with next, I'll be waiting to wreck it. Farming out and the accompanying defector ****-play was definitely not a way to win points with us.

^^^^^ stalker!

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Originally Posted by coss

Don't be silly Anri and don't twist facts. First of ... I did leave before the war with sparta cause I didn't agree with the war plan and the choice hesus made. Hesus called me back after the war. Once I got back several people(leadership especially) said they would leave even if hesus assured me just 1 or 2 guys max would leave and we'd have to find maybe 2-3 players. Out of nowhere I was counting around 8-9 empty provinces. I told hesus I will not lead such a kd and try to rebuild it cause I don't have the time nor nerves for it. Once I said I will leave out of nowhere all the people that said they would leave were ... not leaving anymore and that includes you. Because you didn't bother to check, I was still having access to leadership channel via munk and saw discussions about me where both you and vir were eating a LOT of poo. I then deleted, informed my guys about how much trash you eat about me and our old kd Sleepy and they did what they considered best.

Unlike several ages back when we had another experiment like this and and hesus managed to get away with a couple of guys from my crew this time it didn't work well for you. And all the discussion Loons had about making me look bad so my guys would not leave with me are as idiotic as she is. What can I say ... I blame it all on hesus for being inactive and not interested and leaving a bunch of noobs to lead a kd that could kick a$$ but instead went to trash. In the end is the choices you make that keeps or not a kd alive. And hesus choose Vir and failed with it.

PS: You can twist the stuff as much as you want, end of the day you made this kd go south as well by going with Vir in all his stupid decisions, including the trashtalk.
PS2: One of us will still be playing in top next age and it ain't you;)

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1. Why are you leaving your kd before a war?
2. Do you think your actions influenced others to either leave the kd or wait for you to leave?
3. Did you start a carebears kd before?

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Originally Posted by octobrev

Whatever name you guys go with next, I'll be waiting to wreck it. Farming out and the accompanying defector ****-play was definitely not a way to win points with us.

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Its not like you never done same octo :P
Still intentional farming out and chart shape is really lame. Many times i had to deal with it when other kingdom cant fight 1vs1. Its one from reasons i don't bother to play. All chart loss his value long ago.