And wait, we feared emeriti in a 1 on 1 war despite us exploring to war you, you asking for a year 10 ceasefire and us saying no?
Makes sense in the midwest , I guess.
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And wait, we feared emeriti in a 1 on 1 war despite us exploring to war you, you asking for a year 10 ceasefire and us saying no?
Makes sense in the midwest , I guess.
I apologized and agreed that Emeriti should offer and give what was needed to ensure BB was in no way hurt by what happened.
I don't feel that deal breaking is justified or even close to being justified. I also don't feel that waving into war against your ally is in any way justified. A reasonable solution with reasonable benefits for Bb and consequences for Emeriti was justified. You rejected that because instead you wanted to try and ride this to the most overblown reaction you possibly could.
Now it's you who continues lieing and as with before claims BB to be free of sin in everything.
*lying
Quoting entire posts is getting ridiculous. Assume we have read them already and please truncate that nonsense.
I never said you were in the leadership channel. I said you denied that emeriti did anything wrong. Learn to read before saying I make things up please.Quote:
Originally Posted by Felonious
How many of you pervs have clicked to meet Thai singles?
Nup. I can read, and I'll say it again...you are lying. I dont discuss Emeriti with you or anyone else except in the broadest of terms. The only thing I've ever denied to you was some rather stupid argument you were making abt last age, saying that Emeriti "sh*tplayed the hell out" Pyro when leshrak went afk on nesta mid convo (he does that to me too, the rascal!) and never finalized cf terms or smt. I replied "bullsh*t" to your claims that such a thing would qualify as "sh*tplay" and justify Pyro's participation in a dealbreak/gangbang which is what you were insinuating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sheister
In response to that, you went into some long winded diatribe full of legalese abt how conversations are legally binding even when nothing is finalized blah blah "estoppel" blah blah. And I went zzZZzZ...
lol
I would like to clarify some of the confusion regarding Pandas and Sillies CF.
The CF deal was made long before any of this, Sillies told us they only grew to war WSK, that the top 1 was never their objective. We told them it was good, since both kds had good relations, that we didn't set for top 1 either, were mostly on a war age, even if having extreme difficulty in finding them.
Later we decided to wave 8:11, after we noticed that they changed their one way razes into a third party war and their monarch hit Sleepy. 8:11 was tagged CF or War as well and being the only kd in our range who was available and with an interesting setup allied to an agressive attitude, we decided to send a partial wave to tempt them to war.
They informed us that they were still involved in the awar and we reached a CF deal with 8:11 alone.
No other deal was made with any other kd nor about the AWAR. We did inform all parties and CJ was aware of it aswell, that we had no interest in the awar and were remaining neutral as we were until then.
Some days later we became aware of new developments and information, that changed the way many felt about this awar. The entry of other kds with whom with had friendly relations joined allied to the new facts, made us decide that we should participate in this awar.
Sillies were worried we would get a lot of land and get our way to top 1, to which we stated again that being top 1 was not our objective, if it happened it would be nice, but never an objective. Something I believe that could not be more clear by the fact that we joined an awar, a type of conflict that is certainly not the best strategy to grow.
I have never seen anyone defending that participating in a conflict vs several kds, with trading attacks, razes, bounces, all the ops from various sides, would be a good strategy to get your way to the top. I truly believe this to be one of the most awful ways to try and win ages, but I strongly advise kds that believe its possible to try it if we are in a age fighting for the top 1, because I believe it would make our life easier.
Accusing Pandas of using this awar to grow or to run from a CF deal, is just not fair and incorrect, since should we want to take advantage of the situation, we would never take part on this war and use the time to grow easily oow and explore safely.
This by no means is equal to anyone accusing Sillies and CJ of taking advantage of this situation, but it is clearly an optimal position to be if you want to and are in a good spot to go for the top 1.
Should write down some tips for starting alliance wars. 4 or 5 per age might help the game a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thunder TA
Ha funny, the fake warring alliance chart shaping cheater is calling me a liar. If I'm such a liar, and you and your cronies are so innocent, why are you in this mess in the first place? Not only are you and your cronies horrid cheaters, you try to pretend like you are some sort of victim, and now you want to be a martyr with this delusional CF. You dig yourself a deeper hole every day, you are trying to convince others to join your side instead of manning up to your insipid cheating alliance. In the process you alienate those that exhort Utopian Justice and you only insult them.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Classic psychological projection. Sad, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by bombdigie
Who the hell is this bombdigigity lady? Because I fight for whoever tells me the name of his prov.
I agree that the slippery slope argument has teeth to it. BUT - I think if you're going to question the validity of a CF, it seems like a fairly good reason to do so if the CF was acquired virtually as a result of suggesting your allied province raze into that kd's EOWCF. What's the alternative, godly/munk? If you call the BB/Emeriti CF entirely legitimate, then aren't you similarly setting the precedent that people can get legitimate CFs by having friends raze into EOWCFs?
http://wiki.utopia-game.com/index.ph...he_Black_HordeQuote:
Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace
Leader of OOO