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nah keep wintrow. It would be interesting to have a half orc around on a leash.
teh•AY• oo •weck•eh
accents ' after a consonant make's a sharp cut-off. ' before a vowel makes that vowel long. It's a way of manipulating a word's phonetics without changing the spelling. island nations tend to have less consonants and more vowels on earth. sort of based it off of that.
I finally worked out my password! Lol
So should I edit Wintrow's CS a little bit while I'm here (this will be the final time I use this account) so that I feel I can actually RP him.
just waiting for geco to return ;)
Same. Would love to get off the island.
He hasn't been on MSN for a long while.
Me too. If he hasn't posted by tomorrow morning I will go ahead and push into the temple.
Sorry everyone, that uninspired feeling I had before Christmas is still present. I had hoped the time away would help, but sadly it hasn't. It's gotten to that familiar point where I don't want the responsibility anymore, and just want to take some time off. I know it's lame, but that is the cycle I go through with URP.
I've spent the better part of the weekend and yesterday trying to decide if I should just stick it out or drop it all together. My heart tells me that with some encouragement I could probably continue for a short while, but before long I'll get that disinterested feeling again. In fact, even as I write this I feel a bit more motivated to try and just keep at it.
With that in mind, my solution is simple. I'll stay until we get off the island, but then I definitely am pulling back. I may not leave, but I can't be the driver. I want a backseat role for a bit and just go for the ride.
Again, my apologies for making you guys wait, but now that my piece is said, I'll focus on getting us off the island.
yeah I know the feeling Geco, and I think we all feel that we have "played out" the island and it's time to get us going again.
But I hope you do stay, if not as the driver at least as a player :)
I honestly feel removing ourselves from the island story arc will provide welcome refreshment. Travel to our next destination will give us time for character interaction that isn't depended on action or abbreviated scenes.
As a direct example, Cyra and Arch have come to know each other a bit and have reached the perfect time for a "turn of the page" so to speak. Time for chapter two, and nothing like returning to the skies and the initial objective to send us on our way.
I understand where you're at, but I don't think you need to step down from leading the thread. We've been driving much of the plot on our own, and it's nice when you step in to nudge us one way or push us along once you feel the scene has been played out (i.e. giving adequate time for interaction and progression, yet realizing we're waiting on someone to make a concrete decision. Sometimes it's hard to say "it is now night time" when it's not your thread). I guess I'm just saying is you can retain the spirit of the thread without having to be a slavedriver at the helm of the plot.
I do feel that there should be someone driving the objectives - giving us destinations to reach (even if they are simply ambiguous names or areas )and clear time benchmarks in which to forward the story. If truly you need respite from the task (which it is), I cannot blame you - but someone should take over so we don't find ourselves floundering.
That being said, you're character is the captain and leader, and you've set precedent for establishing who determines the course of action. See: Arch and Gabes scenes together. So when it comes to the current scene of the village coup, I understand why no one is stepping up to bark orders and get us moving. For as much as I want to write and post, I feel like my hands are tied.
Tis true, which is why it is doubtful that I will leave entirely, but I don't think I can drive the story for awhile, although I have to say, I am working on a post and as I read what had been posted during the past couple weeks I already started thinking about other plot lines and how many different places the story could go based on what everyone has contributed, and it did indeed feel invigorating.
I'm going to finish up my post here, and we'll just go with the flow from here.
EDIT: Sorry Z, forgot to respond to you. I agree, very much improved and it's great to see you back. I hope you can keep up that level of posting as a regular in the thread ^_^ Welcome back.
I can indeed, I wrote an 8000 word post of good quality the other day for a Nations RP. Quick explaination basically you control a Nation as if it were your character. Since it is a whole nation you have a bunch of characters and I have many things going on. Which is why it was so long. Documenting a large scale battle is hard.
Ah yes... I remember the "nations" RPs we used to have here. Political Warfare and the such. Those were always fun.
Yes, I'm currently plotting world domination and I'm suppose to be one of the 'good guys'. =P. Now I'm keeping Wintrow on I shall assume he was keeping quiet like amyone raised by Orcs would to his elders.
good is a matter of subjective review. It might indeed be "good" to take over the world. At least, in intentions. However, let's say that america had not taken over iraq? Iraq was a bad situation, granted, but it was "good" that a man as evil as he were on the throne. At least, good in the sense that being the most evil, he had the other baddies under his thumb. America has unleashed the pandora's box by their so-called "good" intentions.
not that this is a political thread, but... you catch my drift. It's totally within bounds for your character to take over the world. Afterall, "good" and "evil" are points of view. Satan, no doubt, believes he is doing what is best for everyone. Including himself.
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Onto the meat of the matter.
I can tell in the frequency of the posts and the tonal changes of the thoughts that you're getting your swing back. What it takes to get out of a rut is not inaction. That drives the wheel further into the mud. No, it takes gentle movement and bold action.
If you want to remove Gabriel temporarily from the navigation charts (as it were), scarlet at least, I can offer a few options ranging from trauma induced coma to a touch of the experience arlen went through. My ideas may include but are not limited to the above, though.
Thanks all, for motivating him a little. ;)
Arch, I wouldn't mind sharing the load with you. My extended unemployment is driving me nuts... Thinking far too much about this thread and other projects. lol
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Geco - you saw things EXACTLY as I had, as far as the village. I'm glad we're on the same page. I was figuring... well, nevermind. I'll hold my tongue for a bit until I see how the temple goes with Drice, seph, and arch. ;)
Okay so should my character be in Pu'kai's house? If so I shall edit.
Zran I think Rensha just gave you an opening where your character is outside in the village may have read that wrong though. Also I have to say that when we finally do get off this island we have left it open for a possible world war upon the ship as we fly to our next destination. I love the backstories and we seem to be building to some interesting confrontations between each character I look forward to and we still have other character boarding when we hit the next port...
Whoa! So much posting... alrighty then I guess I post.
Zran, I'm having trouble following your post. First, I'm not sure what 'bubble' you're referring to. If you mean to suggest Cyradis' defense, that was actually more of a vaccuum sucking in all the fire in front of the group. They weren't shielded outright, hence why Arlen recieved some burns.
Second, and more importantly, whose side exactly is Amateria on? At first she threatens to exile Pu'aki, then she turns and directs an attack at Weka'u. I'm very confused. Also, Cyradis merely put an enchantment on the spear. She did not actually launch an attack.
Last, but a minor detail, I don't think anyone on the island would be aware of the existance of mages. From what I could tell, they don't leave the island and the priesthood lives a rather secluded life, but I could be wrong. I suppose it's possible for them to have met outsiders peacefully before.
Oh I thought you meant it was like a protective bubble...
Amateira is on T'a'u'weke's side she heard Arlen tell Jasper to steal the stone she wants to save it. Which would be another reason for her to go with the ship.
And she doesn't know about mages only that you didn't have a fire stone and was channeling T'a'u'weke's power.
Well, seeing as how T'a'u'weke is in incorporeal extraplaner spirit with no actual proof o fhis existance, it was difficult, to say the least, to tell who she was supposed to be attacking.
Apparantly, she is attacking the crew of the Dawn. That's all I really wanted to know. It would simply look foolish if I posted tomorrow and didn't happen to mention her attacking. Anyway, till tomorrow then. I need some sleep.
Yeah well she realised the reason you were here. Likely Pu'kai already knew but...
also, Zran, he was saying it into Gabriel's ear. i think the thing most catching her attention would have been the thing with Weka'u and Pu'aki instead of arlen. Also how the spear was being enchanted and what not... haven't read IC yet, i'll make a post tomorrow regarding actions.
Ok... after reading posts from everyone, I'm a bit confused. Also, a few things for certain people.
Zran --> overall good, but please please please re-read everything you write before you post it. We all make a few spelling errors and such, but you make more than what I would consider the forgivable amount that it distracts from reading your posts. Also, you used the same line of description "Her inexorable walk" or something like that twice, which I'd say is a no no. Last thing, when Am shouts "Retreat everyone and comeback after whomever wins" is just a weird thing for anyone to say. Her being concerned for their safety is great, but telling them to comeback no matter who wins... no one would say that.
For All (but particularly Drice and Zran) --> the names are Pu'aki (the Chief/Father) and Weka'u (the Challenger/Son). It's just courtesy to spell names right.
Drice --> Did ou essentially make the entire group invisible? Cause that would look a bit weird. And beyond that it doesn't fit so well. The idea I was trying to get at was that we are no threat to the villagers and trying to expose the truth about Pu'aki. Cloaking us wouldn't do that. If it was just your two chars, then that's okay I suppose.
SoHee --> Can Jasper do magic now? How'd he remove the necklace exactly if not? My initial thought was that he'd walk around behind, materialize, and break it off. Also, what happened to Jade exactly? Arlen was burned because he was at the very edge of the fire, but Jade was definitely behind him, so the gravity well and shield should have kept her safe, no?
I'd love to post but I need some answers first.
in the case of your character Zran, I can see a lot of potential. I like the use of the firestone to manipulate fire. On a small scale, I can imagine that it would be useful to protect her, but not functionally battle Pu'aki. What she demonstrated is basically on the edge of what I would account as acceptable, but that's up to Geco. He didn't say anything about it necessarily, so i'm not either.
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the amount of power a mage, or for that matter definitely Pu'aki, demonstrates would stun and shock ANY native. It would merely surprise OUR characters what pu'aki did because I'm sure the wars they've been in and carnage they've seen has amounted to a little more flashy displays, designed to destroy more than one opponent at a time.
The flames are not permanent, it was a wave. think of a ripple in a pond. Behind the wave, it's calm, and the wave distributes it's power as it spreads.
The bow bursting into flames was Pu'aki's doing, making sure she couldn't shoot him in the back. He's still mortal, after all. And smart. Just corrupt. It wasn't enchantment.
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Geco-
From what I gathered, I figured that it was her magical light balls, the Chenkari, that were veiled, and she was wondering if Cyradis alone would be able to see them. Not individuals alone.
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SoHee/Geco- I didn't get the last paragraph, after cailey's blinding thing. And yes, I also assumed he would be able to get behind pu'aki and take it off. Was contact with the necklace supposed to be burning Jade and Jasper? And i'm guessing that Jasper just has telepathy, based on what ghosts presumably have in their arsenal.
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All -
okie doke. Just remember, he's tied to the stone. It has to be destroyed before Pu'aki loses his powers. It might be best to leave most of the battle to Weka'u, if he is to be legit as elder.
I was under the impression we're trying to capture the magicite..not destroy it.
there are more stones than Pu'aki's. His is tethering t'a'u'weke using it as an anchor. we could use the bag that, for instance, Amkeira just brought to him.
Okay. I suppose the mythology I've thought of and written about is the idea magicite is rare and powerful.. it stands to reason the stones are found on the island in unrefined forms (see: a fraction of the power as refined magicite). I guess what I was considering is the stone Pu'aki has, that embodies his power and possibly symbolizes leadership in the village is naturally occurring refined magicite - something I brought up in a post some time ago before we left the airship. I'm not demanding we take this course, merely suggesting the logic for consideration.
Edit: I feel this also helps vindicate our reason for helping the son remove his corrupt father - aside from pure nobility.
Ren - the spear wasnt meant to destroy anything, only show the villagers that thier god was not supporting Pu'aki, but was in favor of Weka'u who was without one of thier 'holy stones.'
Everyone - I thought we were supposed to be passive and defensive and let Weka'u do the fighting. Basically just to stop the villagers from getting between them and put a damper on Pu'aki's magic. If it turns in to a full skirmish, then I think the whole purpose of the village visit is contradictory. Basically, having Jasper take the amulet, and Cailey causing the flashbomb, we've essentially gone on the offensive. Amateria was right to accuse the Dawn crew of stealing thier holy stones when Pu'aki's just flew magically through the air into thier lap. Realistically, the priesthood would now attack the crew and Weka'u since he brought them as his allies. Unless someone wants to edit thier post, my next post will reflect the sentiments above. Don't get me wrong, I'm all for the whole "ok on to plan B" kind of action, but I'm not sure it's where Geco wanted to go, so I'll hold off for his decision since he called for this (hopefully brief) pause.
@Geco yeah I forgot to spell check I didn't realise I had inexorable in there twice I deleted part of it and thought I had deleted that line. I still wanted to have it in there.
Ok I guess I didn't explain everything well enough. First, Rensha was indeed correct Cailey was refering to her spell the Chenkari as being veiled. From my understanding through reading everyone's post the natives can not feel or sense magic, but they can see if I light a flame. So Cailey made her magic invisible to the naked eye so they would not see the spinning balls of light.
Second the names. Again that is my bad I looked back at my posts and I have continually misspelled the names. Sorry I will make an effort to correct that in future posts.
And finally I did not meant to make my magic offensive. If anything Cailey was trying to add on to the 'higher power' intervening that Arlen reffered to earlier. I would have to say a sudden out of the blue flash of blinding light might settle people down pretty quick. Not to mention it was to help distract him long enough for someone to make a move at the necklace.
I gotcha now Drice, that makes so much more sense.
Basically what Shari has said is correct. The idea was to be rather passive unless we get Pu'aki out of the village. My initial thoughts were that he'd flee after a brief exchange to the Temple. We'd stay behind in the village to restore order, and let Weka'u explain, and the village would come to agree that we were there to help, and then we could go kill Pu'aki with there blessing, so to speak.
It should be evident my character is a bit of a walking contradiction. He's a theif and a scoundrel, but he has his own sense of what's right and thus deceiving or attacking the villagers is outside his morally justified zone. It's that whole Robin Hood persona, you can do bad to bad people, but not to the innocent.
I'll give SoHee til tomorrow to reply, but I think we've cleared things up enough that we can safely move on.
Oh, and Phoenix, you were thinking the same thing I was - and I was in fact still playing off that earlier reference to raw magicite. We'll get a larger piece that should work long enough to get to port a find a proper replacement. It is our reward for helping.
With the fire I took some liberty to working in some development of Jade/Jasper's connection that I've been waiting for. But yes, they wouldn't have been totally effected by the fire if they were standing behind Arlen and the magical protective shield was up. I figured I could stretch the truth a bit so that the twins got a taste of the fire, before the shield was up, but less than Arlen. And if Jade was indeed just a bit behind Arlen and he dove to cover the Captain he would move away, so I figured it wasn't too much of a stretch for some fire to hit them.
Jasper could have been sneaking up behind and snatching the stone, yes, but I've also hinted at before that he has telekinesis, of some sort. And I have mentioned it in both writing and OOC earlier and gotten no objection, but if that's a "no, no" we can just change it. Up til now he's been using it to help Jade during surgeries and the like, but I won't use it much, if it is a problem. Let's say he just snatched the necklace instead in that case.
And if you didn't get what I was trying to hint at with my last paragraphs, then let me know and I can explain it further.
edit: added some more thoughts/explanations :) pretty early around my parts of the world...
Oh, and since Jasper didn't actually touch the necklace, the villagers could interpret it as a divine intervention from their god, as "he" is giving it to its right bearer when the other one has grown corrupt. At least that was my thought. If they want to interpret it as a hostile action from the group, yes that is quite probable as well....
I like your post, SoHee. The connection between siblings - transcending the ethereal world (both ways), represented with shared physical actions and consequences. I understood it from the getgo.. and I like it being ambiguous and vague. My own posts have been the same since October - hinting at one thing or another. The reader might see the whole picture despite some pondering, and the characters get to piece the puzzle together over time. It's delightful and the one of the only solid ways for continuing character development within this kind of forum rping.
oh thanks Phoenix! It's good to know that at least one understood my tired ramblings before going to bed last night :)
sohee - I liked it too, just didn't know if it was the stone that was doing it, or the flames.
Shari - 2 things. First - my message about the obsidian spear destroying magicite, that was a goad for you guys to secretly help destroy it should Weka'u try to break it. That's all. :) Second - jasper did it from afar and we were attacked. Villagers would not assume that we would just sit there like ducks in a row. We reacted. Also, since Cailey's magic was shrouded, then it would appear that weka'u (since it was coming from him) was sending the flash. All pretty spectacular to the people. probably as afraid of him as they are of Pu'aki now...
Really, we are in the right to fight back against Pu'aki, cause he attacked our characters first. Really, Weka'u was having a dispute, and he attacked the crew. I see no problem with our characters defending themselves but allowing weka'u to be the main aggressor. We just step in to help him (mages) and our fighters make sure no one tries to take out Weka'u... which... I was hoping to throw in there... but... you know.
more or less, intimidation over true attack was the plan.
geco/arch - I never refered it to being refined. I saw mentioned it as a decorated stone. I thought you said that refined magicite is liquid-ish. my bad. Either way, i figured two things. Like geco said - a stone we could use to power the ship until it got to port and we can refuel for a small fortune. OR we could refine a few stones to get the required amount and tell no one of the island.
I figured that magicite is more like oil. Not necessarily rare, but hard to find without proper instrumentation and knowledge. Most of all, permission (the Dominion's true motive, as all great nations, is not people, but resource control. land is just dirt and people are just expense. it's what is under the ground that matters.). Then refining it also is a process of delicacy. If it wasn't abundant than the Dominion would not have made as many flying machines as they have, nor would airships have been as common as was stated at the outset.
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basically all that to say.... make the stone what you want it to be. refined or not. :)
SoHee, thanks for clearing. Everything's fine, I honestly was just kind of surprised by everything, and like Ren, was unsure of the source of the cause, the connection was evident, but the why I still don't really know (if it's as simple as the fire then I'm just over thinking this).
Yes, Ren's right, once we are attacked we have a right to defend ourselves, although it's still a delicate situation. We're defensive, not passive.
Phoenix, you can decide what you want in regards to the form of the magicite, it's not a big deal. I'll assume though that the refining process is a large scale industry, and there's no way we could up and refine magicite on the spot. All that matters to us is that the fire stones are a kind of raw magicite and we can use them somehow to power the ship.
Going to hockey, but will post when I get back.
Then I think you are indeed overthinking it :)
it was simply just the wave of fire that Pu'aki send out at them, the same fire that Arlen protected Gabe of. So no weird connection to something else...
Ren - One point I think Geco is trying to make is that I think there was a preconceived idea of what we were trying to accomplish in the hut. The confrontation would be between son and father, Pu'aki would flee and we would intercept. You're right that we should defend ourselves, I just think the scene was set up otherwise - and Geco didn't initiate the aggression/attack - you RP'd the flame wave. Personally, lets roll with it - I think the chaos within this hut is awesome - the crowd of villagers, some angry, some panicked, all confused. We're caught in the middle of a civil dispute that has finally come to head (perhaps we were the catalyst, but we can rest assured we're have the moral advantage). I'm not disagreeing w/ the scene, just hoping this will clear up confusion as to what has just happened versus what was intended.
As for magicite, perhaps I should have spent more time in previous posts elucidating its properties. Geco is correct in that I imagined the refining process is at a magnitude beyond our capabilities (and most nations). I think the power of Dominia stems from their near complete control of the technology; the manufacturing of magicite engines/reactors, refinement of magicite stones, and possession of key mining sites.
Magicite itself is more than just a natural resource - it is a physical form of magic.. so beyond an energy source to exploit, I like the idea that magicite has attributes that can be tapped into for various means. In Pu'akis example, he can manipulate and generate fire. A perfect example.
As for its physical properties, I imagined it as a crystalized/stone/solid form - as small as gemstones to as large as chunks of ore. Different elements have different strength, different attributes and varying capabilities. When used to generate power, both unrefined and refined magicite can be fed to a reactor. The former is brutish, rather unreliable, and "burns" with decreased efficiency. Refined is quite the contrary - and thus coveted appropriately.
As for the refining process, preliminarily I hadn't imagined that the physical properties change form through a chemical process - i.e. solid to liquid/gas. This might be more ambiguous, tapping into the magical mythology surrounding magicite.
So to these economic principles I completely agree with. The exporting and control of such technology (including airship design) is tightly controlled and embodies Dominian power. That being said, other nations posses military capability in the air of note; while strength of arms in combat is often one sided, the very idea of Archamae's profession indicates that she is necessary to counter enemy air power.Quote:
I figured that magicite is more like oil. Not necessarily rare, but hard to find without proper instrumentation and knowledge. Most of all, permission (the Dominion's true motive, as all great nations, is not people, but resource control. land is just dirt and people are just expense. it's what is under the ground that matters.). Then refining it also is a process of delicacy. If it wasn't abundant than the Dominion would not have made as many flying machines as they have, nor would airships have been as common as was stated at the outset.
basically, we're on the same page then, and just have different perspectives on extremely minor details. :)
Geco - glad you approve, that's how I was going to deal with it. I figure we can just get this done and move along.. ya know?
Arch - good explaination. we need to save taht for sometime later. I have the same visual imagining. As for refined, i feel it's more of a 'treatment' that makes it 'aligned' for use in a reactor. Not that it is reduced or changed much visually, necessarily. Really what it does is DEstabilize it so that it easily releases it's condensed magical power with much more ease. Whereas, in a crystallized form, it's very stable. Almost like a packet of energy that is stable and happy, like a molecule that is properly balanced. It's happy and doesn't want to bond with anything else, or lose what it has.
that's how I think about it. Am I right? Wrong? I'd like to know so I don't mess it up. I love FF, and that's pretty much the viewpoint i'm putting on it, with obvious changes of our story (no Espers... ... yet T'a'u'weke/ifrit trapped in the magicite anyone? ^_^).