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#EndTheAge Thanks
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*Will stop being nostalgic and looks towards future if age ends.*
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Elit, numerous people have said the same about you. I have never seen you admit being wrong, ever. On the other hand, I have admitted many wrongs including that it was wrong for Sanctuary to have robbed your cow when havoc noticed you. You just refused to accept any responsibility for also making poor decisions in not cfing Sanc, for waving Sanc when Havoc had noticed you, and for refusing to cf Sanc despite reasonable offers from both Sanc and Havoc to give you extra time. You haven't admitted you were wrong for deal breaking on the several times you've deal broke. You haven't even admitted you were wrong for deal breaking your own ally just because they wouldn't help you gb Pew Pew when your dodging efforts were finally coming to an end after weeks of you dodging them.
As for Genesis, many kingdoms have crowned there legitimately. One that comes to mind for me was when my protege Karoo double triple crowned on Genesis with a fully legit kingdom. Beyond that, trading is now legal and has been for some time so most modern crowns are also fully legit.
Rage has done much to be remembered and it's unfortunate that the old news sites are no longer up. Rage's war record is approximately 75-3 (all three losses have good explanations). Rage has only had a few wars even go past minimum time as most wars were utterly dominated by Rage. Rage has fought many good kingdoms from inferior positions and still won in dominating fashion. No other top kingdom (i.e. not a ghetto bashing "war kingdom") in utopian history has a better war record against comparable competition. Rage to this day holds the record of the largest kingdom ever. We were also the most science pumped kingdom ever with the kingdom bordering on HoDF absurdity one age (not coincidentally, the age before the new pull down menu science system was implemented.) Sylver is said to still have nightmares of Rage from this age.
Perhaps the single most "remembered" feats were when Rage was gangbanged by alliances without justification. I believe it was the Covenant alliance war where Rage was full gb'd by 9 kingdoms unprovoked due to being the strongest Abs kingdom when Covenant started the alliance war. Rage proceeded to declare and beat kingdom after kingdom until Covenant had surrendered. After the alliance war, Covenant made excuses about what they did wrong to lose the alliance war. More than one neutral commentator responded to the effect of "Enough with the bull**** excuses. You lost because Rage farmed out your whole ****ing alliance."
Perhaps this next example will sit closer to home for you. Rage was sitting in #1 and nicely sci pumped as Sages. Sonata was sitting in #2 with their cf with Rage set to expire in just under a week. Sonata convinced their allies to gb Rage (using many false pretenses that their allies later got upset about.) Rage was dropped to half their original size but again started declaring and farming these kingdoms. After Rage had farmed Playboys and were preparing to declare on Sonata, Sonata then mass deleted their kingdom. Rage went on to win the age.
There are many other examples such as the time Pew Pew mass reset rather than follow through on their agreed war with Rage. Brute Force disbanded (or became Elftor) after being trashed 1v1 by Rage. So did several other well known top kingdoms.
Account trading was near universally done as you say. Trading was done in the ghettos just as much as the top at least to the extent they could find players, friends, family, or themselves to fill the accounts. Not all top kingdoms had scripters. Most Absalom kingdoms did not use scripters (none of mine from Beauty, to Destiny, to Rage did.) The same kingdoms using the proxy/login sites were typically the ones using scripters. I will say conclusively (and from experience) that neither crosslogging or scripters were needed to compete in the top. Not all players illegally traded/sat, but I would guess 95%+ of all kingdoms did (not just top kingdoms.) Trading could happen without the monarch even knowing.
Battlefields was set up by the game admin (Mehul) to be the competitive server with all the good kingdoms put on this server by him. Each age, he'd demote the worst kingdoms on battlefields to WoL and promote the best kingdoms from WoL to Battlefields. Battlefields was where all the established kingdoms played. The only exceptions were fully scripted kingdoms like Brute Force or kingdoms who intentionally had a bunch of players not stay with the kingdom each age to avoid being promoted and then refilled their kingdom (usually with scripting) each age start. Scripting was actually more needed on WoL for this reason since it was the only way to stay on that server and get your players back in age start. Nearly every kingdom on both servers, good or bad, cheated to some extent.
This was big gift for my morning coffee but you need several corrections so i will process its slow and with care!
First sure i have made some non optimal chart decisions but its was what i belie is fair one. I never have done GB other kingdoms like you and i keep my conflict 1vs1 and don't use friends for slow/drag my competitors like you have done many times.
About Sanctuary and Havoc incident you never admitted ABS was wrong for double hostile and power play us. Last time when we had talk i already told you i was looking for Dorje and CF Sanc but he gone for 4 days from irc. Here was no one from Sanc to talk with them for CF. From other side they had full Kd online right after post war end for start massive rob us when every one know we are preparing for war Havoc. Why no one from Sanctuary contacted us and ask for CF but they decide to start offensive actions against us. When they had zero chance if we b2b war? Answer is very simple. Dorje was mad for loss his war and wanted to prevent us from farm Havoc and win age. So your alliance steeped in.
We never had offer for reasonable time for prepare after all BS start. Sanctuary not robed some gold but they complete FG all our gold and FB all your provs. You need over week time for recover from it and all what Havoc offered was to reset with 2h notice. I don't see how this cover all dmg done from Sanctuary. Its cost us losing all cows in double hostile and still after it we declared and farmed Havoc core. Imagine if we had fair 1vs1 conflict when we had bigger and more cows from havoc. Its was easy win for us.
About me deal breaking, guess its your favorite :P
Well i have done it but its was all time after another side first break his deals with me first. So its not really deal break. For example when you refer to Pyro here is many facts not know from rest because its was all private talk i had with CJ. But one from main reason CR gb on us was succes is my mistake to gave trust CJ and Nesta. Its was me who told them to go fort stance and draft up much before we waved CR and only because they had his KD full ready CR had chance for success GB us. If you drop Pyro they never had chances with rest involved kds to beat us. I told very clear CJ we don't aim to win age its for punish CR so he can set war them and if he win we will let Pyro win age. Problem is he was scared from us and got triked to deal break us and join GB. Its was first time when he deal break us, still i didn't keep grudge and next few ages helped him and teach about game. Still another time he didn't keep what he promised me. Age what you refer about hit Pyro both BB and Pyro close his eyes about Pew Pew,Jerks having team play again us and all this inspired and arranged behind scene from you. Its only natural to expect your ally to help you, special when you have them n1-2 on server. Its was terrible decisions from both BB and Pyro to go for chart and not help us. Pew Pew first teamed with other kingdoms and second deal break us giving 48h notice when we had 72h. 2-3h before expire 48h notice they extended it with 24h....to make it legit. Sure its help KD with no gold stock when you have sit on 100+ mill. I still didn't forgive flogger and protector for his selfish decision and act during this age. But how you see after we disband BB didn't had much success when loss his main ally.
About rage history its was interest to read but i wont argue over it. Its was your Kd and i can understand how you feel. So sure its was great for you. All this talk was about how game was in past and im disappoint to see again you cant tell everything with his real names.
Its was mass practice for all KDs to trade accounts and many got deleted regular for it. Basically if you don't get active KD core you cant compete in kingdom chart. So its what made difference from TOP and rest. They had his scripters on alliance level. ABS had his one too and when KD loss account you get new one very fast. Its was done from other alliances too. This was very unfair and gave big advantage over all rest. For this i cant really say BF server was better or TOP kds in BF was better. They just had more advanced skills how to cheat and not get detected. Everything was much more organized on alliance level too. Sure here was KDs with no script and just trade but they failed in competition. Was common practice for report other competitors to get them deleted. Age 45 or 46 is what have done Sanctuary. I had formed 1 age ghetto with many old Utopian friends. After Sanc refused to CF us we waved them and wared. After war end we got 3-4 provs deleted result from Sanc report us. Good part is we had full legit players, no x-log! So after they contacted and gave info to support we got all accounts back. Still every one was pissed what bad lossers is Sanctuary and we waved them in b2b war. No one expected it and we farmed much land in hostile. After Sanctuary failed to find FW we got waved from another ABS KD and after it Sanc declared war. So its how ABS did his play. Its was same age when Sonata GBed Rage. You complain about it but did you forget How Sanctuary deal break EOA Sonata in attempt for win age?
So in short past TOP was mix from advance cheat and alliance power play. ITs was done not only from ABS but you have important role in all this. This is reason some "indi" Kds to be remembered and loved more from Rage or other alliance based Kds.
p.s I have farmed Allias (later it become Rage) with my ghetto in WoL and personally Zoot age before they joined BF with kd from 7 traded vs 25. After he loss his honor to us he did deal with Fratzia for gave them Kd honor and him win n1 prov honor. Its was good plan for revenge. He was sure his plan worked and change his Kd name to "Zoot Pwnz All" Well you can see how its end :)
Overall Province Honor Rankings (Age 22)
Rank Name Kingdom Race Honor
1 Night WAR () Via Nocturna BG () Dwarf 12412
2 Zoot () Zoot Pwnz All () Human 12343
All i hope for is:
1. Science system fixed
2. Get Halflings stronger please
3. Get Rogues stronger please
4. War win bonus fix it
Thats it, after that the game is more or less good again.
BONUS:
1. Fix so you can see the % when you change buildings so even noobs can fix their builds
2. Fix so you can see OPA/ DPA when you train spec/ elits so even noobs can fix their builds
3. Maybe get some council options to change the direction your province is going? (Instead of the science change)
4. Dark Elves back?
Wow now even new players can learn the game faster + more options to play your province/ kd?
WOOOOT?! I fixed utopia ;)
I notice many complain about sci system but its better from old one. Maybe need to be improved but idea is very good.
One from main imbalance in old sci system was how important is land size. So KD who was for longer bigger get much better sci compare to new grow KD. This was used very effective from many kds and turn to very unbalanced wars from 2 Kds simialr size. Now you can war for half age and after it start grow and you wont lack sci compare big Kds. Its really important change.
I did zero abduct this age. Atm i have 86 scientists and my sci is much better from most time i had EOA. So its work better for all. From other side ppl complain how early age you can make hits for 0. Well its was same in past. If you make learn early age you get almost noting its why no one bothered to make learns first few weeks.
About your suggestion for show % buildings and OPA/DPA its very good one and can make prov management more easy.
Age ends when Binar finishes his theme and I cover my room in Elit posters.
Why is this thread turning into a conffesion room? And why is the age still running? Everyone complains about ages beeing to long and yet you make them longer and longer.. wtf is up with this? Borring ppl for confessions? :)
I don't have private info but i will try to guess it.
When you restart age its most intensive time for develops. Need to code new changes and rest stufs, but Utopia is not his most important job. They have his other duties and take care for utopia when its not hurt other plans. So most like they are busy and for this delay age end. We can complain or can confess but its wont change any. Difference is how you spend your time :)