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I would like it if the formula for magic success in wars was tweaked, while running over 10 mod wpa this age I had little to no success in casting difficult spells (MS) on HUMANS, that does not really make much sense, furthermore it was nearly impossible even at that wpa to get MS on to 2-3 wpa elves and darkelves. Mages need to be useful, plz tweak.
Also, intel spells/ops should be made much easier to succeed on.
VT2 Schools are very useful if you intend to keep sciences.
However once you have sciences which is when you should use libraries you have to keep schools on your province to gaurd against Learn attacks, it makes more sense for Libraries to have protects books mod. even if both schools and libraries had some amount of protect science mod attached to them.
Isahandra Conquest has a max gain of 75% normal trad march gain if you fuly break and has an increased troops lost amount on it, 40% higher gains would be more appropriate that way you are equal with trad march if you fully break. 40% gains would put you at 105% normal trad march gains if you fully broke however you'd suffer higher troop losses.
The increased casualties is still an issue with kingdom war strategies, it's very much harder to use overpop with warheros.
A lot of good ideas here.
I think a few things could do with a good de-cheesing.
* Prevent SoM translations - maybe add 2-3 more digits in the random so it's impractical to get a translation - hence making it necessary to send a decent amount of thieves making it a real op. Also make it very accurate at high thieves level. This will stop cheesy som-blocks too such as aiding single sols
* Instead of just random factors applied to Surveys, maybe have a certain chance of simply showing 0 of a building that is there or some of a building which isn't there (more so with less thieves) - again to make in necessary to send a decent amount of thieves.
* For infiltrate just having a massive randominity at low thieves sent.
* Troop losses, maybe make sending more troops on an attack (oversends) either cause more enemy troop losses or lessen the total troops lost by you by a decent amount. This is partly to minimise the need for uber accurate intel and troops sent.
These are basically aimed at making players (including myself) who know cool (but not universal) tricks lose some (but not much) of their advantage.
Very important that the account system is revised with ideas like this one and others. But stuff like that can be done during the round, game changes have to be done now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lead Pipe
Another idea is to exchange warhero's 'enhanced' conquest for the traditional conquest Mehul tried out on Genesis, and making warhero the default choice of personality.
Learn is too weak for people to consider schools for protection. It's better to run more banks, so you can replace anything you'd end up losing to learns, anyway.
Label the human magic-penalty for what it is: an auto-fail on self-spells.
Add options to have heavily massacred provinces recover faster. Examples:
*Allow wizards to be aided
This will result in heavily massacred provinces being able to recover faster and it would add an extra dimension to the spellcasting strategies
*Add a spell to 'reveal individuals with magical abilities within the population'
This spell (that could cost either alot of runes or 90-100% mana) would increase the rate wizards are drafted, for example 4 times as fast for 24 hours
*Allow peasants to be aided
Again to help heavily massacred provinces recover faster and it would make for interesting war strategies to send away peasants to prevent them from getting massacred in the first place
*Add a spell to 'have your peasants hide in shelters'
This spell is basically a reversed Town Watch. Your peasants will hide themselves from the enemy so the peasant losses in massacres will be 75% lower, while your income during the spells duration is lowered by 25%
1. Make shadowlight timed
2. Fix the paper issues with missing attacks/aid, etc.
3. Don't allow dragons to be sent to/from kingdoms who are in CF
4. Show the cancelling of dragons in both papers, the same as the creation.
5. Show MP in paper when offered during war
6. Paradise - either reduce the cost or increase the gains. it's WAY too expensive for 3-4 acres a pop. i know it was reduced because of the whoring alliance kds, but it seriously penalizes those of us who use it legitimately
7. Allow monarch's message to include the use of <cr> in order to format it to make it more easily readable instead of like a runon sentence.
8. Forums - please add the functionability of poster being able to edit or delete their own posts
Very much NO to this, well organized kingdoms will just aid the max untaxed wizards to one province at a time let them run a LL run with 20-30 mod wpa, then send the wizards to the next province and repeat, do you see the problem here? A kingdom of DE with no rune cost could easily LL 25% off each province they are warring before making an attack.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bytes
i agree COMPLETELY with uzziah on that point. it's HIGHLY abusable
Give Orcs free/cheaper draft or free access to accelerated training or both (Improve Orcs for Attacking)
-Possible Abuse?/Negative: Orc Shepherd with Inspire Army cast
Give Dark Elves an income penalty such as +50% wages (Nerf DE)
I also would like to see dicing take away acres from the explore pool on a 1 to 1 ratio (Nerf DE dicers & Dicing in general)
Remove Honor Loss during war, it's more of a penalty for legitimate wars instead of KDs who fake war. (Improve wars)
Give a longer post war recovery time like 48-72 hours, preventing vulturing that a KDs monarch can cancel if the KD desires (Improve wars)
Elves wages -25%/-30% from 50%. else make their elite a tad more expensive, 50gc or so.
Orcs should get free draft, but as VT2 said keep it at none/normal.
cheaper mercs is an option mixed with lower science costs which are pretty high atm.
Remove honour losses in war.
DEs are popular but by no means the best race.
The problem you are sketching is a result of flawed LL though, however I will acknowledge your objection and make the following adjustment to my suggestion:Quote:
Originally Posted by uzziah
*Allow wizards to be aided out of war only
This will result in heavily massacred provinces being able to recover faster after war
I hope you do agree that aiding wizards can be beneficial.
better
its still abusable, bytes, you get mystics running buckets of guilds pumping everybodies wpa, similiar to the orc soldier banks that were claimed from way back when. unless wizards had a high tb value of course but i think no no no
Fix the trading system as suggested here: http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread....ighlight=trade
The idea is to reduce the amount of info players need to provide in order to trade.
Finish the guide...
Next you're going to say "start on time"...
Give us more move-codes.
Give orcs back there 6 def spec also there cheap draft/wages
cheapen elf elites
reduce dwarf elite n/w
Make food have a purpose.
Allow food to be sent with armies to reduce troop losses by 1% for every 10 food sent per troop. Healthier troops die less.
Lets people use up stockpiles and makes it worth Shepherds running more than 2% Farms.
Make it so you must send at least 1 bushel per troop, or suffer 10% increased losses. Makes starving a province much more potent and again food more useful.
it does VT2, its purpose is to sit there to be stolen by thieves running fewer farms.
Go back to land based gains instead of NW based
Orcs also need help in the t/m defence area. The 6 def spec will free up soldiers for higher tpa.
Still bad I guess you've never used tornado or LL during unfriendly/hostiles.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bytes
Magic spells are just too powerful and instant (the main key factor that makes them different from soldiers) to allow for trading of wizards.
Give thievery ops on an Orc have a chance of brining back plague (5% per op) since the thieves are actually within the land.
Will making opping Orcs more costly and less of a prime target.
I can keep coming up with additional limitations like allowing wizard aid ONLY during end-of-war CF or that the maximum amount of wizards that can be aided is the difference between max and current population of the target province.Quote:
Originally Posted by uzziah
I am sure others can come up with better ways to allow massacred provs to recover faster then a week or longer and I do think I have my made my point :) If the 'wizard draft increasing' spell would be implemented, I'd be happy already.
I dont think the elf army is strong enough, either reduce cost of elites or make them 6/5
re: Banan
You can't just give monarchs flat out control of an inactive prov.
What you could do is mimic the "allow monarch to take control of my prov for trading purposes only" function. If an acct is inactive for 10 days (which should be shortened to 5 or 7 imo), don't delete it. Give the monarch the option of trading someone else into it (as long as the monarch as a trade code to use).
Also, please fix the bugs in the trading system and make the UI less confusing!
Elf really, really needs its 6/5 back.
Lowering the price of the elite further won't make up for the loss of the 6/5.
One more sug: make MS accessible to all races and personalities again.
It's a valuable spell for wars and one of the few things that's truly useful against unbreakables. It's really obnoxious that you're forced to run a couple of mystics just to get access to it. Especially since running only 2 or 3 mystics just puts a big "MASSACRE ME" sign on those provs.
I can't remember what the reasoning was for making it mystic only in the first place.
Because the only Race that has flat rate T/M defences as standard on top of Per Acres also needs to be the strongest turtle...Quote:
Elf really, really needs its 6/5 back
Make Plunders capture soldiers as Prisoners at the same rate it takes GC. Would make higher dungeons fillable OOW and would make them worthwhile along with the increase % troop losses I suggested earlier, letting people run up to 10% or so for reasonable benefits.
The reason for making it exclusive to mystic was to make mystic useful, and open up A/M to all races. Normally, anyone who wanted meteors had to play faery or elf, but switching meteors to mystic changed that.
I don't much mind, but mystic could make do with +1 mana-regen, and elf is overloaded with bonuses, anyway.
The turtle-power of 6/5 is not nearly as important as having the power to start out wars with lots of elites, and slowly replacing them with archers, all made from credits earned by hitting.
Elf is frailer this age than the last, but easier to maintain for new players.
Then again, all the new players play their elves like T/M's, anyway.
Make gnome 5/3, so I won't have to look at another all-elite n00b ever again.
VT2, you want elf to have 6/5 leets and gnomes to have 5/3 leets? :|
no to both, elves dont need extra turtling power!
moving +1 mana to mystic i suggested before, but removing it from elf would be interesting!
but as i said in another post, we have delf with +1 stealth and rogue with +1 stealth, currently elf with +1 mana, but no personality with +1 mana! so id love to see mystic get +1 and as suggested either remove from elf, but give it to another race...or let them keep it?!
Are you guys serious about strengthening Elf? They already have lower losses (which in the long run compensates for slightly weaker army), good turtling ability, good attack speed, protection against thieves, protection against mages & their economy was boosted by lowered wages. Can you honestly say you think they need to be made even stronger, and that it's not just that you like playing elf and want them to be overpowered?
as he saidQuote:
Originally Posted by Ganondorf
+1 mana on Mystic would be good, Elves could keep it too but not if they gained /5 elites.
They can already replace Leets with Def specs, if your not worried about turtling power. 70 DPA is plenty in the run up to war, 80 DPA is a bit much (assuming mostly leets some def specs).
Hopefully Roisin and Lydias will pick out their favourite suggestions and ask for input on them individually, because this thread is getting way crowded with discussion and none of us are blameless.
Strongly agree, mystics are so boring now because they're "forced" into being MS support. They'll need to be compensated if they lose MS, but it's a good idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by FetidTrout
Agree with this as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ishandra
Very easy to do this. Raise guild production to x3.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bytes
Changes on sciences:
-Channeling
remove the bonus to rune production
-Food
add here the bonus to rune production, change name to Food & Runes
-Military
replace +Gains in Combat for +Military Effectiveness
makes more sense to me