Better to late than never, both kuhan and proteus can send 100$ to me and ill send the total sum to the winner.
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Better to late than never, both kuhan and proteus can send 100$ to me and ill send the total sum to the winner.
or to me amok.
Binbin needs some weed money
I got some nice offers for some ppl earlier this day:
[12:47] <@LightNing> Id pay him (Kuhan) just to stop posting snore, thumbs up etc on forums;
[12:57] <@LightNing> Drug.. Belle would pay darkz not to post odd;
[12:58] <Americanbadass> I'd pay for Binar to not type aything for a month.
So guys, if u work out some deals, feel free to send me 10% of whatever u get ;p
If he doesnt get paid, Kuhan can just break his arms and legs...
Proteus mouths off and doesn't back it up? Is this news to anyone? Of course he set some ridiculous condition that would never be met, otherwise he'd have no excuse to back out. Real men make real bets, Proteus just talks. A bet is about paying when you lose, not finding an excuse not to.
Get a job, nubwegian!Quote:
Originally Posted by Binar
Yes! This is what I'm talking about. See, more people need to use their education as leverage and use it to appeal to truth. I do it all the time with my Masters and it looks really cool. Good on ya.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Let's get the clear wording here...
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Originally Posted by KuhaN
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Originally Posted by Proteus
A few interesting things pop up...Quote:
Originally Posted by KuhaN
No where does it state a timetable on when the money transfer is to take place, or more notably, that both players had to give their money to ASF before the war ended. It only states that ASF is to act as a middle party to ensure neither side is scammed.
At no point did ASF agree to be a part of this bet. Along with that, both sides agreed to the $100 wager before the additional term involving ASF was added.
"If you want" is hardly strict contract vocabulary. What Kuhan wanted was to not be scammed out of money and was willing to adhere to your suggested method of ensuring he wasn't.
Lawyered.
except its a game not real law. And the spirit of an agreement is often the founding issue NOT the exact words.Quote:
Originally Posted by Helluva
i think a justified response would be to raze kill Proteus for deal-breaking (money to ASF or not they had an agreement). I'd really like to hear what Sanc/HoH/Havok say about this if people would be willing to back Kuhan up.
I can't wait to see which one of you has the balls to attempt raze killing Proteus over this, or are you all just talking ****? Hypocrits
Palem makes some great points. It boils down to these 2 quotes:
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Originally Posted by KuhaN
A man pays up, plain and simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
I don't think Proteus should be held accountable for the 'deal'. How can we be sure that KuhaN would have paid if he lost?
Everyone on this forum just rages and trolls. You can all have a worse opinion of Proteus if you want, but penalizing him for not honouring a $100 bet made on a whim in a game forum would be
saD
Because he agreed to it in exactly the same fashion that Proteus did. If he tired to weasel out of it like Proteus is doing, he would be recieving the same treatment.Quote:
Originally Posted by SillyRabbit
It works both ways, if Sanc won KuhaN would be here arguing about how Proteus wouldn't have paid had he lost.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
If both betting parties were serious, they should have found an escrow to hold the funds. That wasn't done, the 'bet' is just for show.
Just my opinion...
lol at this ridiculous notion that money has to be held in escrow for a bet to happen. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. If you won't honor a bet, don't make it.Quote:
Originally Posted by SillyRabbit
They did, Proteus suggested ASF while Kuhan couldnt get hold of ASF its rather pointless but as a gentleman Proteus should still owe up to his deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by SillyRabbit
That essentially sums it up. The fact that they tried getting ASF means they were both serious about the bet. Suddenly you're no longer serious cuz you lost? That's a punk's way out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Korp
Thus the comment about the rest of abs + HoH, if all you had to wory about was rage im sure plenty of people would step up, i mean Proteus wants a crown a long fight w/2-3 kds would 100% remove that chance. Only difference between Proteus and KuhaN isQuote:
Originally Posted by brado
if KuhaN backed out he'd have Proteus trolling him in the forums and things like suggested raze killing for deal breaking would suffer no retals or complaints as Proteus would have full backing of his allies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
They attempted to do so. The suggested person wasn't reachable and another, more available person was never suggested.Quote:
Originally Posted by SillyRabbit
Don't make bets you don't plan on keeping. It paints you as an untrustworthy figure.
Can we cut out the stupidity of trying to involve Abs into this conversation please? This was a man to man bet, nothing else is even relevant.
A man who's word isnt worth even 100$ is not a man at all.
Well thats the difference I guess between me and you, I don't need 2-3 kds to raze kill proteus, you seem to think you do. Furthermore, proteus already lost his crown this age. And finally, had it been the other way around, I highly doubt, hell I can even assure you, proteus would NOT have the backing of abs to start raze killing ppl over it, he would be acting on his own accord probably against the wishes of abs leadership. Get a clue. Ignorance is not an excuse.Quote:
Originally Posted by Persain
You guys are really sad. Your going to try to "police" an unconsummated bet where do you get off. This is not the same as "deal breaking" of cfs ingame and even those do not get enforced unless the kd who it happens to takes action. I did not see a tone in here wanting to fb bio when they doubled us 2x over several ages. You people have way too much time on their hands. And lol at involving abs into this.
Dharan you talk way more than i do, you are the mouth of the forums. Difference between you and I is that i happen to do well ingame
Palem there were talks on irc as well in addition to forums. Also your opinion is not very valuable to me neither as anyone else on forums. Find something else to do with your free time people
Solution: mind your own business
Isnt it ironic that Proteus tells people other people to find something to do with their free time when hes online here trying to make bets? :) Solution, if you cant take the heat here dont write in the forums, you can now proceed and go cry in a corner cause people are mean to you. Or man up and realize this is a public forum where you made a fool of yourself and now pay the price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
Are you claiming you did set time limits on your money transfers and that ASF did agree?Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
If so, I would find it very suspicious that Kuhan couldn't get in contact with ASF while you could. Some might call it...fraudulent.
The other difference between you and I is I don't punk out on bets.Quote:
Originally Posted by Proteus
And telling people to mind their own business regarding a bet you made publicly is pretty amusing.
Couldn't agree moreQuote:
Originally Posted by koti00
cmon! Everyone knows that this is kind of contraproductive. You have to break his mothers/gf/wive/kids arms and legs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elf
I can confirm bet was very serious from both sides.
Proteus pmed me to say he will get our intel and sanctuary (because sanctuary don't share his intel with him) for make his decision to bet or not.
KuhaN, pmed me too to ask how i'm see or chances for incoming war because he is going to bet 100$ .
Can show logs if need.
i have logs to back up Kuhan saying he planed to accept the bet $100 and would pay up if lost, he was talking to you at the same time as me. He was sincere about it and thus my previous posts that he should act in game to repay the reneged bet...if he thought he could do so reasonably that is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Elitbg
Break time...Lets take a look at the polling and see what the community has to say about of this matter.
************drum roll************* 90% of the votes at this time says Yes, Proteus should pay KuhaN for their bet.
never seen such a sore loser and there are quite a lot of those around in uto.
just pay these 100 bucks, stfu and finally grow some balls. the poll pretty much says it all
KuhaN should've known better. He was betting with a guy who spouted all the crap in the forums about having 6 beers yada yada and then proceeded to delete it afterwards.
As if Proteus was going to pay... he probably can't even afford his lunch every day. Working as a janitor in an investment bank doesn't pay a heck load as prestige as the bank may be.
I was amused at first by this whole affair. Than it got kinda sad to watch grown up man drags his personal integrity through mud over crappy 100$ bill.
Maybe Kuhan should publicly absolve Proteus of his debt, on one side man has been publicly humiliated which I am sure provides certain satisfaction to him and on the other maybe he rly needs that money to pay the bills and whatnot.
So which one is Proteus' province and when is he getting razekilled?
Dont need it for bills, but i was planning on buying $100 worth of beer, taking pics and taunting rage for the rest of the round tbh, saD.Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
Just a heads up tho, i would've paid 100% if asked by proteus/community after war if i lost, even without asf being middle man, i set up paypal and everything for the bet already. But, i did think the chance of me getting my money was low even if i won, and i did it neways because i wouldn't have mind getting scammed for $100 if it meant ppl losing their respect/integrity over it. So i thought it was win/win for me even if i didn't get money if i won or if i got scammed.
I also offered to hold the money in escrow, and I'm as trustworthy as they come in terms of money, given how baller I am.
Do you have some insider information about Kuhan that would lead you to believe he would not pay had he lost?Quote:
Originally Posted by SillyRabbit