Probability, Chance or Luck

I hope it is not the unnecessary 5 days hostile that you had opted for resulting in frustrated players leaving the kingdom.

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Originally Posted by _Sevve

We had 2 hostiles with BoB this age, first hostile BoB hit us 7 times (1 tap fearys/elf's), and MASK (130% kdnw) start taping our big MO hitters (with PF+bg) 1-2 ticks after BoB. Very wierd becose 1 day before MASK and Simians had a hostile were BoB started doing massacers into Simians, MASK was FAT as hell aswell, 110-130 nwpa, so dunno why they would even go taking more land, but w/e we CF both MASK and BoB at that point.

Few days later when we were rebuilt we go waving a kd in range (giving hostile, ~30 points), BoB then in the middle of our wave msg us with a 12h notice , breaks CF and starts dragon. Again, we msg them that were hostile with other KD, but they dont care, says we should of war them and grow some balls, luckely we got CF with the KD we waved few ticks after wave was done.

So my experiense with BoB is far from good, tho its a very nice and active KD, they dont need to pull this kind of BS.

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My experience with your kingdom is not very good either. You like to come here and tell stories? MASKs have nothing to do with us and I reiterate we have nothing to do with any kingdom. Your kingdom dragged us through 5 days of hostility without pressing button and even without the effects of war coming in, your kingdom sort of lost. We were furious that you

1) you played us out saying you were not ready and waved a kingdom smaller when both of us were in equal NW

2) Making us go waste 5 days of resources without having the decency to press the war button even though we accumulated 200 points and you side accumulated 182 points.

3) some of your players are decent enough but there is no need to pull this BS on us too. Proper diplomacy would have worked well.

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Originally Posted by nataku

My experience with your kingdom is not very good either. You like to come here and tell stories? MASKs have nothing to do with us and I reiterate we have nothing to do with any kingdom. Your kingdom dragged us through 5 days of hostility without pressing button and even without the effects of war coming in, your kingdom sort of lost. We were furious that you

1) you played us out saying you were not ready and waved a kingdom smaller when both of us were in equal NW

2) Making us go waste 5 days of resources without having the decency to press the war button even though we accumulated 200 points and you side accumulated 182 points.

3) some of your players are decent enough but there is no need to pull this BS on us too. Proper diplomacy would have worked well.

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there's an important lesson to be learnt here: try to bully a kd to war you when they don't want to and lose 5 days of your age. it makes sense they didn't want to give you what you wanted (the war). you should learn to do better diplo as well.

Not too mention that after kept dragging hostile but then they try to get jerks to help you. Should have honestly just told us that you had no intention of warring us instead of lame excuse you not ready then wave smaller kd. Jerks jump in trying to interfere threatening us thinking we would back down...like feint said its a reason your kd lost players....

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Originally Posted by coorsprg

Not too mention that after kept dragging hostile but then they try to get jerks to help you. Should have honestly just told us that you had no intention of warring us instead of lame excuse you not ready then wave smaller kd. Jerks jump in trying to interfere threatening us thinking we would back down...like feint said its a reason your kd lost players....

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i am not really bothered why your kingdom lost players

Just don't waste our time if you don't want to war.

And thank you though. We had a good war with Jerks.

=)

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Originally Posted by Feint

Why not elaborate on the full story? I hope you are not the monarch. Your kingdom leadership failed. From 25 dropped to 20. Also, it is not a few days of cf when u start waving another kingdom. You are of equal nw and rejected us for war saying you are not ready. Within the next 12h, u started a wave on a kingdom 500k networth smaller. We dont enjoyed being played out. And you kept bring allies in to threaten us by distorting facts and BS a ton. The 5 players not in the kingd anymore made a wise choice.

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That was the full story, we would of warred BoB if MASK dident hit our top MO attacker with armies home that day. Actually we was gonna war MASK but the went out of declearation range, sad really with the biggest attackers at the time had 10k defspec at 3k acers :/. But thats all in the past. And we were 23 players when you hit us first (1 was in sitting mode).

fyi we were a merge with 8 old time sanitarium players and some random ghetto that finnished #250 of so NW age 56 :D, we just kicked out the slackers and are down to 20 ppl. Hopefully we can be full kd in the next 2 ages or so.

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Originally Posted by nataku

My experience with your kingdom is not very good either. You like to come here and tell stories? MASKs have nothing to do with us and I reiterate we have nothing to do with any kingdom. Your kingdom dragged us through 5 days of hostility without pressing button and even without the effects of war coming in, your kingdom sort of lost. We were furious that you

1) you played us out saying you were not ready and waved a kingdom smaller when both of us were in equal NW

2) Making us go waste 5 days of resources without having the decency to press the war button even though we accumulated 200 points and you side accumulated 182 points.

3) some of your players are decent enough but there is no need to pull this BS on us too. Proper diplomacy would have worked well.

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Proper diplomacy? We clearly stated no war, you start making learn hits. You wanted some free sci i guess, but we decided to retal for a few days and waste some time, no biggie. GZ on the WW on Jerks/the ancients, very impressive for sure.

Lol Feint umad??

dont hit into peoples EOWCFs bro
and dont **** play ppl and wave 2 days ahead of agreements
/gg

Nope not mad. There isn't any agreement at the first place. Who r u? Nvm, can't be bother also. One last thing, u not my bro, I don't know you. I am a friendly guy but not loose. Haha

@Sevve: since u wanna bring this issue up to the community, pls provide the FULL COMPLETE STORY. Not selected snapshots of the whole event... Do get ur monarch to speak up and not hide behind the scene. He sure have a lot of say in the exchanges... :p

Everything case closed already. Jerk happy, we happy. Clarification done on oow plunder and etc. Then sure got people add on. If you guys wan to raise an issue, u should have done earlier or start a thread on your own. Thanks for your kind understanding. Good luck and take care. What you guys are talking is not relevant here.

In case got ppl rebutt my English. My question on page one, is it ok to plunder out while u r still actively in war. We are not discussing abt eowcf. Thanks. I got my answer already and will know what to do in future. Stop trolling.

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Originally Posted by Lykron

there's an important lesson to be learnt here: try to bully a kd to war you when they don't want to and lose 5 days of your age. it makes sense they didn't want to give you what you wanted (the war). you should learn to do better diplo as well.

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The word "bully" is used wrongly here. We didn't bully them. It is not as if they are so much smaller than us. We waved, they oped. To us it is an indication of interest. They did not CF. They got another kingdom to threaten us. And when they do CF, they send an hit into our kingdom. Read what you understand.

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Originally Posted by tetley

Lol Feint umad??

dont hit into peoples EOWCFs bro
and dont **** play ppl and wave 2 days ahead of agreements
/gg

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what agreement? you are out of the loop ..please go clarify matters before saying things that you don't really know

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Originally Posted by _Sevve

That was the full story, we would of warred BoB if MASK dident hit our top MO attacker with armies home that day. Actually we was gonna war MASK but the went out of declearation range, sad really with the biggest attackers at the time had 10k defspec at 3k acers :/. But thats all in the past. And we were 23 players when you hit us first (1 was in sitting mode).

fyi we were a merge with 8 old time sanitarium players and some random ghetto that finnished #250 of so NW age 56 :D, we just kicked out the slackers and are down to 20 ppl. Hopefully we can be full kd in the next 2 ages or so.



Proper diplomacy? We clearly stated no war, you start making learn hits. You wanted some free sci i guess, but we decided to retal for a few days and waste some time, no biggie. GZ on the WW on Jerks/the ancients, very impressive for sure.

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i am not really interested who you guys are made up of. We just wanted a war and if you wanted to retal why not give a war a real shot and end all things instead of nonsensical things such as 5 days of hostile without an end result. You didn't wanted a war, did not offer CF, when you did, a province hit into us, and op us. We wanted free science? we would have properly waved you like what some other kingdom did to us and went to cry foul to other kingdoms. So please get your monarch or whoever is in charge to speak up about what is going on in your kingdom.

LOL. when someone says "let's talk in 72 hours" and you wave after 24, it might not be a full-on agreement but it's definitely bm. Feint was obviously mad when he started the thread

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Originally Posted by Feint

... Your kingdom leadership failed. From 25 dropped to 20. ...

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Bystander here, but I'm curious. What would you make of the kd that dropped to 20 from 5 deletions by admin?

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Originally Posted by Lykron

there's an important lesson to be learnt here: try to bully a kd to war you when they don't want to and lose 5 days of your age. it makes sense they didn't want to give you what you wanted (the war). you should learn to do better diplo as well.

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I must have misunderstood that it eneded with war and in turn a farm out?

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Originally Posted by Lestat

I must have misunderstood that it eneded with war and in turn a farm out?

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No Lestat, there isn't a war. But it is still a
Farm out with the 5 days of hostile. Both kingdoms were ard 5.6mill. End of hostile, we were at ard 5 mill while they are at 4.5mill. Because they cannot hit beyond 200 points. Lol. Glad we didn't war them. Kinda one sided. And also, we won't have the chance to have such a wonderful and interesting war with jerks.

Hmm, why should I? Anyway I am not involved in any politics or diplomacy in the kingdom. I just offer strategy that will put my kingdom in the best position if war happens.

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Originally Posted by tetley

LOL. when someone says "let's talk in 72 hours" and you wave after 24, it might not be a full-on agreement but it's definitely bm. Feint was obviously mad when he started the thread

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LOL~

lets talk in 72 hours (we are now 700k bigger, so after 72 we would be at least 1.2 million bigger and yes, lets talk about a war then.)

Yes, lets wait for you to grow to be 1.2 million bigger and then we would give you the button so you guys can crush us.

so this is what you meant should happen?

LOL~

Sounds to me like tetley is mad haha

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Originally Posted by nataku

LOL~

lets talk in 72 hours (we are now 700k bigger, so after 72 we would be at least 1.2 million bigger and yes, lets talk about a war then.)

Yes, lets wait for you to grow to be 1.2 million bigger and then we would give you the button so you guys can crush us.

so this is what you meant should happen?

LOL~

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didn't we start a dragon aimed at you guys earlier in the age when both were on the same (i say same but could be 3/4% difference) nw and you declined? <-- just checking facts here, not a moan or anything

you knew we had just came out of a tough brutal war with WarSeekers and had to recover / regroup. You picked a good time to start the hostile with us ;)

but hey ho - twas a good war with you guys and looking forward to many more to come :)

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Originally Posted by fuzzy|

didn't we start a dragon aimed at you guys earlier in the age when both were on the same (i say same but could be 3/4% difference) nw and you declined? <-- just checking facts here, not a moan or anything

you knew we had just came out of a tough brutal war with WarSeekers and had to recover / regroup. You picked a good time to start the hostile with us ;)

but hey ho - twas a good war with you guys and looking forward to many more to come :)

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Yup. We were 3/4 your size . Second issue war the kingdom we waved was retalling with op. and we already gave button to them. Not wise to jump on another boat

test test

No kidding. My KD was just starting to get good, we were winning wars left and right, and then we randomly fell apart this age. Everyone left :(
Ahh well, a good KD found me and brought me into their fold :D