Learn to diplo better, and learn to war better. The only WWs you guys got this age were vs KDs that were even more ghetto than you were. Once you came up vs more stiff opposition (us) you got completely battered, obliterated and wrecked.
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Learn to diplo better, and learn to war better. The only WWs you guys got this age were vs KDs that were even more ghetto than you were. Once you came up vs more stiff opposition (us) you got completely battered, obliterated and wrecked.
I diplo just fine. Razes stopped after that war. Really makes it all the more suspicious.
But really, if you truly believe in your heart of hearts that we've lost all of our wars this age and yet somehow managed to convince the kingdom farming us to surrender and give us war wins...I'm not sure how I could possibly learn to diplo better than that...
It's pretty tough to beat a kingdom that cheats, dealbreaks, and has outside help razing and killing you.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaExpert
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Oh, and let's not forget, you turned down the rematch.
I don't understand winning kingdom whining. If you're truly winning the war, enjoy farming :p. If you, the self proclaimed winner, is hurting badly and just wanted out quickly, then you're not really winning as much as you'd like to think you are. Stop asking your opponent to surrender, SHOW them you won with actions, not whines.
FYI: whiners =/= winners.
Ever heard LeBron James begging his opposing team to give up and forfeit? Ever heard him accusing the opposing team dragging the game out? Or he'd just crush them?
You diplo just fine, hence you got razed into war o.O? How about you ask all those other KDs that got razed into war while fighting us the last few ages (oh wait, there are none).Quote:
I diplo just fine. Razes stopped after that war. Really makes it all the more suspicious.
Where did I say you lost all your wars? I only said you lost all wars vs opposition that knew what they were doing.Quote:
But really, if you truly believe in your heart of hearts that we've lost all of our wars this age and yet somehow managed to convince the kingdom farming us to surrender and give us war wins...I'm not sure how I could possibly learn to diplo better than that...
Careful what you wish for.Quote:
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Oh, and let's not forget, you turned down the rematch.
Not a lot you can do about griefers that don't like you. Using the examples where you didn't use outside help doesn't prove you didn't use outside help against us lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaExpert
You said it here:Quote:
Where did I say you lost all your wars? I only said you lost all wars vs opposition that knew what they were doing.
We've lost 3 wars since I've been here.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaExpert
We surrendered up in acres against FREE (certainly not drawn out)
We surrendered OOP against FS (not drawn out)
We surrendered to Spartans.
The vast majority of our wins however have been nice long, drawn out wars where our strategy trumped the other kingdom. The only way your retarded statement makes any sense is if we were actually losing our wars to the kingdoms that surrendered to us and the only thing you have to base that on is being down in acres. We haven't gained acres in a war yet this age, but we're 4/6.
If you'd stop being blinded by an irrational hatred of me because my name is green or whatever the hell it is, it would help you not look like a dumbass all the time.
Yea, feel free to jump us in our EoA war. That'll show your superiority lolQuote:
Careful what you wish for.
If you'd stop being irrational and randomly banning me for whatever, it would help you not look like a dumbass all the time. Christ sake, last time you banned me for making a suggestion for aggressive stance.Quote:
If you'd stop being blinded by an irrational hatred of me because my name is green or whatever the hell it is, it would help you not look like a dumbass all the time.
Not even going to reply to the rest of your message, as that has already been addressed. You might be able to out-tactic ghetto's, but you will never out-tactic me.
How hard is it to understand that you get banned cause you cant behave around people.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaExpert
You're not going to reply because you have nothing to say. If you were so confident you would think you would be happy to have accepted the rematch. Now your win gets stuck with an asterisk. If you ask me, you aren't willing to war when the other kingdom knows your cheating and dealbreaking ways.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaExpert
sAD
What is this ghetto nonsense. This thread is supposed to be about two other ghettos, not your silly ghettos. Post in a Nightmare vs. Spartans thread.
Let's talk about your silly ghetto Noobium :D
Anyways, the discussion is one between winners and losers. Until FWB beat us in war, I can hold my head up high :)
Yep, bask in your hollow victory. I take no shame in losing to dealbreaking cheaters.
no longer my ghetto.
Don't be so defensive Palem, it's only 1 loss from many that will follow in the coming ages. To comfort you, we will only war you ONCE an age. Let me now when you guys are ready for a beating next age :)Quote:
Yep, bask in your hollow victory. I take no shame in losing to dealbreaking cheaters.
I'm not being defensive, I'm being aggressive, the thing you're being towards me. Sorry you don't like it thrown back in your face.
I'd like to maybe schedule something around the next time you're deleted for x-logging. That work for you?
+1 heheQuote:
I'd like to maybe schedule something around the next time you're deleted for x-logging. That work for you?
You're both bad, please stop
We're all bad. Some of us just suck less on certain ages.
Lmao...this is probably my favorite message... "completely battered, obliterated and wrecked."Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaExpert
So recap -- we start the war with 1K lower honor, day 2 of war we're about 2K lower, day 3 of the war we're about 2K ahead...when the honor started drifting downward, we decided to pull out.
Keep in mind, that this honor would have continued to grow for us as the war continued but you know - the outside razing, pre-war outside help, dealbreaking, and then being a royal pain in the forums about every little thing you disagree about ends up being...what's the word? Annoying...yes that's it. Simply annoying. So hey, we pull out 1000 honor higher than we started with a loss. Oh man that sure sounds like "completely battered, obliterated and wrecked."
Oh maybe you mean your KD strategy?? Those massacres on our attackers -- yeah those did SOOO much dmg oh man...kill those 2 wizards...GOOD JOB. So much effective use of your generals -- how could we last any longer had it continued?! jeez can't imagine.
Oh and man so battered that we fought another war like 5 days later and won quite solidly. Man you'd think we would have never been able to win anything again because of how 'battered/decimated' we were. LMAO -- a not so good stand up comedian is the career you should look into.
There, I bumped your thread. Also, everyone talking in this thread sucks, myself included.
Also, massacre totally makes sense, simply because it's an attack that doesn't take land.
Agreed Noobium. Guess these fellars didn't learn too much from the whiping we gave em (who knows next age the will). During that war we took a 1800-acre UD to 0.1 tpa, then all our Orcs NSed him to 1.5 dpa, then our TMs could collect the spoils. Had they not pulled out, we would've completely honor-raped them (so smart move to surrender).Quote:
Also, massacre totally makes sense, simply because it's an attack that doesn't take land.
Wow, sound like a pretty solid strat and execution in war. Wanna have a war before Eoa?
We're currently engaged in an epic struggle versus fluffylicious :D
They would've made sense on almost any other province in the KD than the ones they were doing it to...Quote:
Originally Posted by noobium
It makes perfect sense to massacre undeads. Like I said, acres for core attackers are basically poison, and giving ud a free land-drop and nw range is basically giving your enemy a gift. The massacre could have done virtually nothing and it's still better than a landgrab that is entirely negative.Quote:
Originally Posted by smercjd
I must admit I prefer chaos in war. Break ranks and overrun or be overrun. Nothing like locking horns with the other kingdoms kurgan with all the hail of combat going on around.
Wouldn't waste too much effort explaining Noobium. I tried, but failed. Then I showed em practice, still they don't believe it. They don't see that bringing an UD from 0.4 to 0.1 tpa is really worth it if your orcs are on 0.5 :)Quote:
It makes perfect sense to massacre undeads. Like I said, acres for core attackers are basically poison, and giving ud a free land-drop and nw range is basically giving your enemy a gift. The massacre could have done virtually nothing and it's still better than a landgrab that is entirely negative.
my point is that even if your orcs were on 0.2 it would still be better than a landgrab (never mind that training 0.5 tpa on several core provs is not too much to ask, especially when other kingdoms donate a landdrop to them).
Now you know, and knowing is half the battle.
I understand your point...my point is that there were better provinces to do non-trad marches on. They were hitting silly. There were TMs they could've hit (non-trad) and caused much more dmg than they were doing. There were other attackers they could've massed that would've been better than what they were doing. Some of the masses were good, but they wasted a LOT of attacks. Unfortunately, the pre-war hits, the dealbreaking, and the 45x oow razes didn't really let us capitalize on their not-so-good strategy. Would've been nice to beat them just like we beat other kds that think they're hot ****. Oh well :)Quote:
Originally Posted by noobium
I do admit that during the times I sleep my people do silly things. Man's gotta sleep at some point though...Quote:
They were hitting silly.
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The outside razes were annoying of course, but that's about all they were.
That was me being polite and under-rating what was going on. But at the time, I forgot that not many care about polite and keeping things decent in the forums...live and learn.Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaExpert
You always were very decent until you started playing alongside Palem Smercjd. You're starting to take over certain traits from him, such as holding to your opinion no matter what (such as claiming our strats were wrong even though you got your ass kicked).
You mean that 1 age that he didn't play with me? lol
You're starting to sound like FREE when we told them that their strategy wasn't very good and we just weren't able to execute. They got all offended, insisted we were just butthurt and downright refused to listen and maybe accept the idea that maybe there's something wrong with their strategy.
"Wars Won / Concluded Wars 1 / 5"
It's not working out great for them. If you would ever face a good kingdom and not have the benefit of outside razes, you might be confronted with a terrible truth.
+5 <-- is that how the plus thing works? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Palem
9 wars unbeaten now.
Undefeated at every game I play when I cheat ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by UtopiaExpert
I'm undefeated in battleships
Dammit I told you guys to get a room.
*paints a crude sign on the Nightmare/Spartans sign titled "ORGY HERE"*