mysterious case of the missing pyro

Kremlin, Yeah, I am not trying to accuse you of anything and have no hard feelings towards you. I do think that simply being a "FSU kd" with ties to another top kingdom does affect things though. Apparently part of your founding agreement is to "never hit BB" while you will FSU other top kingdoms. I'm sure you can see how this might help BB and hurt BB's competition (if you don't mistakenly give away a bad button.)

My point is just that Bour's kd wasn't supposed to be a "FSU kd" and wasn't trying to "FSU BB." They just wanted to get a cf with BB by offering them a small amount of extra free land but felt they had to raze to get them to respond to their ingame CF requests. Bour wanted to cf everyone and compete for #1 prov.

Thats true. Weve had an eoa with BB and i suppose that has a chance of indirectly helping them. But thats just the game. There are all sorts of deals that indirectly help kingdoms and Im sure Eme benefits from some of them too.

We are razing Pyro out atm, and they allied with BB this age :)

Granted. They do have a button atm, dont think they are quite up to Emes level from last round though. We haven't really FSUed this age also. Sorta building a real kingdom.

Dude we have an agreement between ourselves to not hit CR/expendables too. Enough with your bull**** propaganda. We made this deal between ourselves as a kd because we respect protector and we respect zauper and company. We have 0 respect for emeriti. I have yet to see anyone in emeriti go out if their way to show me any sort of game mechanics or offer us any advice. I was once able to go to anyone in CR and ask any questions related to utopia and not made out to be an idiot. There was many times when I played in pewpew when I didn't understand something I would go to topsy or ibwould go to Benjamin and I would ask them. They took the time out of winning a crown to explain to me like men the reasons why we would do a certain thing and not do something else.

Just like BB to ervgotti and Kremlin. BB showed nothing but the utmost respect to them and to me. Never once did anyone in those kingdoms make me seem like an inferior human being.
When petrified came back and cleaned house the pew azns went to BB and to this day remain my friends.

When was the last time emeriti offered any help to any nub?
So like I said take your Absalom bull**** somewhere else. We stayed out of the emeriti razing this age even though we wanted to help BB. We are razing pyro a know ally of BB. When flogger came to us and asked us to help out specifically said we would not hit emeriti. Then the time came when I felt bad you guys were getting beat so bad I actually wanted to help emeriti out. But we stayed out of it. But whatever people will see conspiracy theories everywhere when they **** play all the time.

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Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace

When was the last time emeriti offered any help to any nub?

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Well you got a spot in CR cos I recommended you there! FACT! You came to me asking for a spot where I said I was ghettoing and got you a spot in CR!

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Originally Posted by Judge

Well you got a spot in CR cos I recommended you there! FACT! You came to me asking for a spot where I said I was ghettoing and got you a spot in CR!

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thats pure bull****. and no one from CR will back that up. spill your absalom lies elsewhere.the only reason i would have left pewpew is if i had a spot in CR. it was no secret that i wanted to play in CR. i also believe it was benjamin and my ex friend nick_mi that got me into CR and it was jwuzi and zauper that accepted me.

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Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace

thats pure bull****. and no one from CR will back that up. spill your absalom lies elsewhere.the only reason i would have left pewpew is if i had a spot in CR. it was no secret that i wanted to play in CR. i also believe it was benjamin and my ex friend nick_mi that got me into CR and it was jwuzi and zauper that accepted me.

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It was drixx you recommended you there on my recommendation!

They declared :)

Now we will see what happens.

ok we just got hit into our war by a player thats moving to pyro. so was this sanctioned by pyro? pyro needs another kd to help them? or how does that work? they recruited the guy. he hit us from his old kd. now he is moving to pyro.

Hmm. 25 failed attacks. That maximus dorkus guy seems to be pretty tough. :)

I saw two players from CP's KD defected after being hit in war and razed Pyro after defecting... Hmmm...

we were not hit. they had someone they recruited attack us into war so we figured whats good for the goose is good for the gander. so we defected a couple provs to repay the favor they showed us. feyr play! ftw

Will pyro get their 1st war win since CJ left?

Such a shame for CP

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Originally Posted by DoOrDie

Will pyro get their 1st war win since CJ left?

Such a shame for CP

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They seem to have lost "pyro" after Cj left.

They will auto win if nothing else.

Dang, ASF is too good. He easily saw through someone giving him 40k acres last age as just a nefarious BB plot gone wrong!

WOW!

So Chrystal is not dirty? Flick of the Wrist was in hisKD then Defects to OOW Raze us when we declare. Amazing.


GJ being above it all there chrystal. I salute you.

Um what about dorkus maximus and amazing? Didn't they defect and hitting too?!?!?

And I got the idea from you guys. Recruiting and having the dude plunder our gc stock before he left.

I will take any sanctions made my feyr play. We have the proof on our side. And no matter if they come after us its been an epic ride. Thank you pyro. I haven't laughed so much in a long time over utopia. Also nice taunt. That's what convinced my dudes to go along with it. Bragging you took our gc after the guy plundered. Well played.

WTF are you talking about? You really are just raving.

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Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace

I will take any sanctions made my feyr play. We have the proof on our side. And no matter if they come after us its been an epic ride. Thank you pyro. I haven't laughed so much in a long time over utopia. Also nice taunt. That's what convinced my dudes to go along with it. Bragging you took our gc after the guy plundered. Well played.

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Ever since this started you acted like one huge ***hole, spent your entire time insulting them, taunting them, implying gb and whatnot only to pull that **** in the end over something you have zero proof of.

Its been a while since I have seen one individual go on such a toxic rampage with posting and actions that was not an obvious troll. You and your KD should be ashamed of yourself.

Blabla pyro sucks blabla

Well, its hard to argue with that 007. We do kinda suck this age....

Ashamed of what? I think it's funny. Why be ashamed of laughter? And sheister we have the guy. We landed in that kd. And have access to the kd forum and chat box. So spin it all you want my man. We got you by the balls. #noacres4pyro BOOM

What was the whole alliance thing about "intent"?

No really? What? Chrystal, slow down and use small words. I honestly have no idea what the hell you are talking about. Post logs and so on. Really. If you can find a log with me saying anything more than "STFU ON WHATSAPP YOU SPAMMY ASIANS! I AM MUTING YOU ALL!!" I will be surprised.

did i say you were involved personally? and we will produce evrything we have access to including the person that plundered us.

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Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace

Ashamed of what? I think it's funny. Why be ashamed of laughter? And sheister we have the guy. We landed in that kd. And have access to the kd forum and chat box. So spin it all you want my man. We got you by the balls. #noacres4pyro BOOM

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"We landed in that kd" Maybe, you should stop cheating first?

What you talking about? You saying we have control of where our provs land when making a random move? And how we cheat?

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Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace

Ashamed of what? I think it's funny. Why be ashamed of laughter? And sheister we have the guy. We landed in that kd. And have access to the kd forum and chat box. So spin it all you want my man. We got you by the balls. #noacres4pyro BOOM

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Everything, you are a disgrace, your talk about building a srs kd and not being guy from last age is a joke. You just spat on every KD that treated you farily and gave you cf's this age.

Citadela, be fair for one second. If pyro did something, then perhaps that makes this justfied according to standards of punishment that have been debated all age long. I just want chrystal to produce whatever it is he has. So now this is the third time (athough the first time for a direct one) That I am requesting he produce whatever he has to support what he is saying.

Do not insult users

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I just find it ironic that last age before Emeriti was set to fight BB, a FSU kingdom with a bunch of ex-BB members hit down Emeriti's cows and refused to give any land back. When this happens, Emeriti is accused of arranging farm wars even though they lost their cows and had only modest gains largely from the ww bonus.

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But you dont find ironic that how a ex Emeriti member just happends to raze the top contender of Emeriti under the false pretense that BB didnt "respond" fast enough. I just dont get this logic of yours, "Its okey to ****play as long as you say oyu are sorry and offer acres back" The damage is already done, its not that acres were lost thats the issue is the fact that the ****play occurred from the begining.

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In addition, after all this is done, logs came out that BB advised Pyro to wave ED into their hostile with FS in addition to a bunch of other **** play by BB's alliance.

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Emeriti did advice that Bour should raze BB, whats the difference?

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In short, I'm not saying Bour razing was fine or that Emeriti advising him to threaten to raze to get a cf was fine, but I am saying that BB are hypocrites and the real reason that BB wanted Emeriti gb'd is because Emeriti was #1 and owned BB in 1v1 wars each of the last two ages and Bb knew that it'd happen again this age unless they changed the rules like by deal breaking and waving into active war.

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Coming from somone that demand that people should quit playing Utopia after ingame actions, its pretty funny. :)

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Originally Posted by Korp

But you dont find ironic that how a ex Emeriti member just happends to raze the top contender of Emeriti

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You seem to think I razed BB because they were a threat to Emeriti, which is far from the truth. I razed BB because they were the only kingdom who was a threat to ME.

Anybody who think Emeriti needed any help to beat BB didn't pay any attention how badly BB got outplayed in both the wars.

Also, I think you're missing asf's point: he isn't trying to defend the "bad" advice Emeriti gave me, he's pointing out how hypocrites the people who gangbanged Emeriti are because they did a lot worse than what they used as an excuse to gangbang a kingdom that was going to farm them all in 1v1 fights.

I have found the fight summary from this "owning" or "farming" emeriti did 2 ages back!

http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...vs-ASFKD/page9

** Summary **
Total attacks made: 589 (33,594 acres)
-- Traditional march: 534 (31,473 acres)
-- Ambush: 36 (1,683 acres)
-- Conquest: 6 (438 acres)
-- Massacre: 2 (1,598 population)
-- Learn: 1
-- Failed: 10 (1.7% failure)
-- Uniques: 181
Total attacks suffered: 619 (32,523 acres)
-- Traditional march: 471 (30,087 acres)
-- Ambush: 57 (2,436 acres)
-- Raze: 74 (0 acres)
-- Massacre: 9 (1,805 population)
-- Failed: 8 (1.3% failure)
-- Uniques: 171

** The kingdom of BB **
Total land exchanged: +1,071 (589/619)
+4,723 An unknown province (43/0)
+862 Santa walking backwards (29/8)
+815 WhatsACanWearingAChristmasHat (22/5)
+806 Why did the elf go to school (17/9)
+728 Christmas Balls (29/11)
+596 Bcuz he only comes once a year (24/1)
+426 Elfis Presley (21/12)
+399 WhyWasSantasHelperDepressed (17/16)
+345 Why is Santa so jolly (18/12)
+55 What is an elf that sings (21/27)
+52 Because he had low elf esteem (31/16)
+34 WhatDoYouCallAnElfWhoRaps (3/7)
+9 A Merry Can (1/5)
-37 A workshop (15/13)
-230 What goes oh oh oh (26/30)
-278 What you call a smelly Santa (25/27)
-337 WhyDidSantaDivorceMrsClaus (16/15)
-390 A wrapper (28/25)
-501 To learn his ELFabet (30/27)
-618 Because she was a ho ho ho (25/28)
-842 Why is Santas sack so full (27/42)
-921 Farter Christmas (29/74)
-1,043 A brothel on the North Pole (33/76)
-1,043 AllYourAcresAreBelongToSanta (23/41)
-1,128 Where do elves go to dance (4/17)
-1,411 HeKnowsWhereNaughtyGirlsLive (32/75)


** The kingdom of Emeriti**
Total land exchanged: -1,071 (545/663)
+3,542 An unknown province (40/0)
+2,662 To project always outward (12/1)
+1,300 But on my brothers (18/5)
+1,244 Until I disappear (22/4)
+1,180 From my own reflection (24/13)
+698 The ones I love (21/20)
+418 KINGDOM MANIFESTO (7/2)
+289 Only we remain (29/18)
+132 I will forget (8/1)
+112 If I do not serve them (8/0)
+41 The Selfless (5/0)
+36 To See Them (5/0)
+35 To turn away (4/0)
-26 My own obsession (5/1)
-164 And in the end (29/33)
-315 If I become (27/34)
-340 And on my sisters (28/35)
-456 If I refuse (24/37)
-781 To rely not on myself (28/35)
-903 With any others (30/49)
-932 Into myself (28/43)
-1,307 Therefore I choose (28/67)
-1,693 I will be (27/56)
-1,877 I will war (28/68)
-1,940 abnegation (31/75)
-2,026 My own undoing (29/66)

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You seem to think I razed BB because they were a threat to Emeriti, which is far from the truth. I razed BB because they were the only kingdom who was a threat to ME.

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Yea, the forum multi would obviously admit to ****playing. :)

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Anybody who think Emeriti needed any help to beat BB didn't pay any attention how badly BB got outplayed in both the wars.

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Yet, Emeriti has a pity crown and BB has recent b2b crowns. But I guess its easier to focus on some wars and not on the bigger picture.

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Also, I think you're missing asf's point: he isn't trying to defend the "bad" advice Emeriti gave me, he's pointing out how hypocrites the people who gangbanged Emeriti are because they did a lot worse than what they used as an excuse to gangbang a kingdom that was going to farm them all in 1v1 fights.

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But ASF isnt a hypocrite consider he has done much worse himself?

You lefted one small part:

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Since razes in war aren't aren't destroying acres but just land, the pre-war razes aren't accounted for so the summary should be -252 for ASFKD and -516 for BB

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Btw, it's not really hard to not lose that many acres in a ~52h war when you have many more attackers than your opponent and when you chose the WD wave.

Also, did you find the summary of last's age?

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You lefted one small part:



Btw, it's not really hard to not lose that many acres in a ~52h war when you have many more attackers than your opponent and when you chose the WD wave.

Also, did you find the summary of last's age?

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But wheres the farm and the owning?

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Yea, the forum multi would obviously admit to ****playing. :)

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I admitted everything that was true, I won't admit anything else.

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Yet, Emeriti has a pity crown and BB has recent b2b crowns. But I guess its easier to focus on some wars and not on the bigger picture.

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A pity crown? Emeriti crushed all their opponents last age, including the previous crown holder (fpyro) and the so mighty B2B champion.

Also, before the people that couldn't beat them 1v1 gangbanged them, they were in the best position to crown again this age.

We woulda crushed everyone if Chrystal gave us 40k acres too!

Too bad we couldn't find out this age before anyone else got involved. Since emeriti so pro I imagine they woulda welcomed the challenge, rather than ask for yr10 CF then have you hit once I said no ;p

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A pity crown? Emeriti crushed all their opponents last age, including the previous crown holder (fpyro) and the so mighty B2B champion.

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Yea and you forgot to mention the farming of Chrystal "Crushed" like Emeriti "owned and farmed" that we saw on war summary.

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Also, before the people that couldn't beat them 1v1 gangbanged them, they were in the best position to crown again this age.

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lol. Positions that early dont mean **** any ghetto can be in a good position early game, end game is what matters.