Worst kingdom of all time?

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03-03-2019, 19:42
Helluva

You guys still do this?
04-03-2019, 00:45
Pillz

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Originally Posted by Korp

Succeeded at being a mediocre top 50 kd, i guess you can take pride in that. :)) Even ED had crowns.

Incorrect. We were consistently one of the best warring kds from age 35 to 46 and easily better than most 'top' kds.
Your attempts to troll me and discredit sinners are weak at best coming from someone whose only crown came from SWEA despite a history of playing in the ****tiest top kds possible. Yes Ed crown, but you weren't there. So did HoH and jerks. Let's not ascribe too much value to crowns octokorp.

Our farm out was the result of a single diplo mistake on our first crown run and we learnt from it. Again, unlike BB we didn't crown anybody (let alone 4 times).

Bad kds and exist and korps played in a few of them, but sinners isn't found amongst either group.
04-03-2019, 00:52
Pillz

You are arguing from the perspective that there was only one playing field for good kds back then, like there is now. You know that that's not true, though. Kds could switch between honor or land age to age easily, and a good 100-50 mediocre war kds existed that could baby themselves. Kingdoms like regulators, vicious, ninjas, sinners, voexm, whisperers, screwups, etc all existed and simply choose not to crown or compete in land charts because we had other ideas of fun. Ofc whisperers and screwups loved to honor crown but neither made a bid to go for land/nw either.

I think regulators suffered a single loss on their 3 age streak of wrecking everyone?

I'm the end, this a worst kd thread. DoA VS sinners is hardly a comparison and both pale in comparison to Simians. BB is terrible but not the worst either.

Which is Simians. Floggers anris boy toy.
04-03-2019, 03:45
Korp

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Originally Posted by Pillz

Incorrect. We were consistently one of the best warring kds from age 35 to 46 and easily better than most 'top' kds.
Your attempts to troll me and discredit sinners are weak at best coming from someone whose only crown came from SWEA despite a history of playing in the ****tiest top kds possible. Yes Ed crown, but you weren't there. So did HoH and jerks. Let's not ascribe too much value to crowns octokorp.

Our farm out was the result of a single diplo mistake on our first crown run and we learnt from it. Again, unlike BB we didn't crown anybody (let alone 4 times).

Bad kds and exist and korps played in a few of them, but sinners isn't found amongst either group.

Never seen anyone stroke their own ego so damn hard as you're doing right now Steel. :) If you notice I havent made any single claim to any fame or any achievement, but when you talk about it, one crown is better than none right Steel? :P You talk about not ascribing too much value to crowns at the same time you want to ascribe so much value to a kingdom that never achieved anything but mediocrity. Sinners werent the "one of the best warring kds" in their time, they were a decent kd as many of them you mentioned as well. The only reason you are arguing so hard about Sinners cause its probably only place in this game where you felt really at home. If Sinners would been a kd you didnt play in you would have bashed it as much as any other kd you are bashing now.

All those kds that you mention in your second kd post are kingdoms that chose to play in a lower playing field cause they just couldnt hack it in the top.
04-03-2019, 17:32
Pillz

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Originally Posted by Korp

Never seen anyone stroke their own ego so damn hard as you're doing right now Steel. :) If you notice I havent made any single claim to any fame or any achievement, but when you talk about it, one crown is better than none right Steel? :P You talk about not ascribing too much value to crowns at the same time you want to ascribe so much value to a kingdom that never achieved anything but mediocrity. Sinners werent the "one of the best warring kds" in their time, they were a decent kd as many of them you mentioned as well. The only reason you are arguing so hard about Sinners cause its probably only place in this game where you felt really at home. If Sinners would been a kd you didnt play in you would have bashed it as much as any other kd you are bashing now.

All those kds that you mention in your second kd post are kingdoms that chose to play in a lower playing field cause they just couldnt hack it in the top.

We were easily one of the best kds period in that time.

All the kds I listed could have competed if they wanted to, though I doubt any would have crowned. And no crown is better than a crown in some cases. Most of emeritss crowns are worth dirt, same as jerks and rocry and hoh crowns.
04-03-2019, 18:32
khronosschoty

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Originally Posted by Pillz

We were easily one of the best kds period in that time.

All the kds I listed could have competed if they wanted to, though I doubt any would have crowned. And no crown is better than a crown in some cases. Most of emeritss crowns are worth dirt, same as jerks and rocry and hoh crowns.

I don't know about Jerks' crowns being worthless (as in for some reason the details of those crowns escape me); but I agree fully that Emeriti's crowns are largely garbage. Pretty much if you were snatch up any kingdom from "back in the day" who existed at the upper end of mediocre in skill and activity (ranked by past standards not today's), they could all easily crown over and over and over in today's uto.
05-03-2019, 00:32
octobrev

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Originally Posted by flogger

An interesting perspective, albeit a misguided one. There was no "Pulsing Trollfags" age, we were tagged Beastblood all age and renamed to Pulsing Trollfags at the age end for fun. I recall barely saving the age when a haphazard group of trollfags wanted to fight Mercy the first time with 7 EPA, upon convincing the trollfags, inexperienced at warring against anyone but your own multis that perhaps we should go 9 EPA instead, we barely survived against Mercy which ran 12 EPA. It was smooth sailing after that, however.

After a sudden departure at the end leaving BB scrambling to find 10 replacements, the few ages the true crown was the BB vs Cromulent Republic crown, in which the former Trollfags thought they found salvation in a new hero named Zauper. "How could our all star lineup of 10 leaders possibly lose to a kd with just flogger" a trollfag once exclaimed. But ragequit ole munk did just a few days later in their own council chan.

The pulsing trollfag strife came at a cost, however. Had the trollfags simply stayed put they probably win 17 of 20 of the next crowns, but the toll of taking on such a kd 3 ages in a row, mixed with ole flog no longer being able to play at work burned out BB's flame, creating the opportunity for Emeriti to emerge.

However, after a win, Emeriti still feared ole BB enough to hunt them even in their own end of war! Just the mere sight of BB exploring was enough for them to abandon all previously established norms. Not even Sonata caused such a response. Sure, Dreams got GB'd once, but so fearful of BB the group responsible ceased as soon as we asked, saving the trollfag age.

What would Sonata have done had they gotten hit in their own End of War? History suggests a mass deletion. But what would BB do? They'd do what no one else in 20 some odd years would do, despite many many attempts and failure. BB would win the true crown, gifting the secondary crown that age to the Expendables.

After the true crown race, both emeriti and BB bowed out for awhile, and Cromulent enjoyed their time in the sun, and of course we all know emeriti eventually regrouped, but even the new BB has won a couple times since then as well. But if we go back some 30 some ages since the initial Sonata 2 peat, which was impressive, It seems like the trollfags couldn't win without ole flog pulling the strings. Would have been interesting to see how the last 20 ages would have played out without that rather silly breakup.

We most certainly did not want to war Mercy a first time. We didn't want to war Sanctuary either. As the finest whores and bankers in the game, early wars go against everything we stand for. Those were your drunken, risky, egotistical, and woefully unprofitable decisions. I'm glad you managed to pull off the wins, but it was all entirely unnecessary and highly counterproductive. We told you this when it happened and we told you again when we left.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...nners/land.jpg

Furthermore, per the vote in the external forums, the name of the kingdom was the PULSING Trollfags. You did tag Beastblood all age. Mango was kind enough to correct it during the final tick so the records would be accurate. Not for fun. As for CRv1, I can't really speak to it as I wasn't involved. As far as I'm aware, it was a war oriented KD, not a real one. Got to claim your victories where you can though I guess. You're record needs all the fluff it can get.

The prospect of staying together sure is a curious one. I found your approach to war to be impressive and insightful. I just wish we could had kept you in a cage and let you out when it was time. I also voted for the Beastblood name and was sad to see that it had lost. I went so far as to make a banner for it, expecting it to win.

https://i225.photobucket.com/albums/...ers/bbm2-1.png
05-03-2019, 02:49
awesom-o

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Originally Posted by khronosschoty

Totally uncalled for.

Faery Circly was platform which was used as point of reference that allowed unskilled people to use a lot of provinces which made game unplayable.

100% the worst kingdom of all time in utopia
05-03-2019, 04:26
Syntico

What's going on here.. ?
05-03-2019, 11:01
Elit

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Originally Posted by Syntico

What's going on here.. ?

People remember good old times :)

About Simians they was better from most average KDs so we can say they was "TOP". Main problem is Anri was way to confident all time...but at least he was fun person to communicate.
06-03-2019, 02:42
flogger

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Originally Posted by octobrev

We most certainly did not want to war Mercy a first time. We didn't want to war Sanctuary either. As the finest whores and bankers in the game, early wars go against everything we stand for. Those were your drunken, risky, egotistical, and woefully unprofitable decisions. I'm glad you managed to pull off the wins, but it was all entirely unnecessary and highly counterproductive. We told you this when it happened and we told you again when we left.

http://i225.photobucket.com/albums/d...nners/land.jpg

Furthermore, per the vote in the external forums, the name of the kingdom was the PULSING Trollfags. You did tag Beastblood all age. Mango was kind enough to correct it during the final tick so the records would be accurate. Not for fun. As for CRv1, I can't really speak to it as I wasn't involved. As far as I'm aware, it was a war oriented KD, not a real one. Got to claim your victories where you can though I guess. You're record needs all the fluff it can get.

The prospect of staying together sure is a curious one. I found your approach to war to be impressive and insightful. I just wish we could had kept you in a cage and let you out when it was time. I also voted for the Beastblood name and was sad to see that it had lost. I went so far as to make a banner for it, expecting it to win.

https://i225.photobucket.com/albums/...ers/bbm2-1.png

How one wins your age crowns matters more than simply winning them, something I wish you guys could have embraced. I take alot of pride in being able to go to any random kd like pulse or bio, win in the first shot largely against people that have needed to put 15 superstars together just to be able to compete. The age with you guys shows what happens when I get the superstars.
06-03-2019, 03:01
Chuck

Steel, give it up already. I led Simians, and I played in your trash of a kd as well. I recall it took your kd 24 hours to kill off my province when I got sick of your nonsense. Perhaps you guys were better than ghettos, but you could never compare to Simians.
06-03-2019, 03:39
Syntico

Can you guys stop referring to him as Mango? It is phiwha!
06-03-2019, 08:12
Korp

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Originally Posted by Syntico

Can you guys stop referring to him as Mango? It is phiwha!

He chose the name himself we can't do nothing but respect that
06-03-2019, 18:58
Palem

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Originally Posted by flogger

I take alot of pride in being able to go to any random kd like pulse or bio, win in the first shot largely against people that have needed to put 15 superstars together just to be able to compete.

Random kingdoms lol
15-03-2019, 07:11
DonJuan

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Originally Posted by flogger

There's been a fair amount of forum slack sent simians way but I think that's largely been unfounded. However, I don't think that Sinners gets their props for being consistently awful for such a long duration. Being generally terrible at in-game endeavors mixed with its members just being consistently wrong at any opinion is a talent in its own right. Any other nominations?

Any kingdom i've ever led
16-03-2019, 02:03
skraz

worst kd is not a kd any of us remember, if we remember them (good or bad) chances are they could at least do something more than your average ghetto. That being said my biggest disappointment was a war against Glory when they made thier way from WoL (after 2 honor crowns in a row) to BF, landed on my island and them farmed out to me in an oop war.
16-03-2019, 05:27
Avenger

flogger's ego is reaching proteus levels :P
5/7, would read again.
16-03-2019, 14:07
Halfling

Can we all agree that Sinners produced the worse player in uto history in the form of Steel? :)
16-03-2019, 17:14
Korp

As a individual player if motivated Steel isnt too bad.
16-03-2019, 22:25
khronosschoty

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Originally Posted by skraz

worst kd is not a kd any of us remember, if we remember them (good or bad) chances are they could at least do something more than your average ghetto. That being said my biggest disappointment was a war against Glory when they made thier way from WoL (after 2 honor crowns in a row) to BF, landed on my island and them farmed out to me in an oop war.

Agreed -- about any kingdom we can recall is more successful then the unknown ghetto that silently died and no one knows them anymore.
17-03-2019, 05:14
flogger

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Originally Posted by Pillz

We were easily one of the best kds period in that time.

Weird, the actual best kds in that time didn't know you existed outside of tagging in the forums.
17-03-2019, 06:04
Proteus

oh man just when I thought the forums and this game was dead, this thread delivers

helluva read and glad you guys are still having conversations like this makes me want to shake off the rust and take a shot at the title once more
17-03-2019, 11:07
umajon911

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Originally Posted by Korp

As a individual player if motivated Steel isnt too bad.

That lasts all of what...1 or 2 weeks?
17-03-2019, 22:24
Pillz

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Originally Posted by Chuck

Steel, give it up already. I led Simians, and I played in your trash of a kd as well. I recall it took your kd 24 hours to kill off my province when I got sick of your nonsense. Perhaps you guys were better than ghettos, but you could never compare to Simians.

You were absolutely terrible and played in Sinners v2, which was created out of random players around a core of 4 Sinners within 24h. Of everybody to join in those 2 ages, only one would ever be invited back or counted amongst Sinners.

We also never tagged during those ages, or even in v3, for the specific reason that garbage like you tarnished the name.

I honestly remember nothing about Halfling whatsoever except that we trolled the **** out of him and his KDs ingame and on irc/forums.

Zulu your KD is just bad. ze trolls has the exact same communication/intel setup as you do but are actually a great kd. theyd probably be able to compete using IRC or slack or something instead of sapp. In any case, don't blame me for not dedicating time or effort to hopeless ghettos like SYG.
18-03-2019, 11:23
awesom-o

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Originally Posted by Proteus

this makes me want to shake off the rust and take a shot at the title once more

If you pay me directly I can give you 20% discount.
20-03-2019, 07:28
Hurlin

very strange thread ...........
20-03-2019, 16:13
Blameitondevs

Have heard about BB, but what sort of animal is Emeriti?
20-03-2019, 20:10
StratOcastle

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Originally Posted by khronosschoty

Agreed -- about any kingdom we can recall is more successful then the unknown ghetto that silently died and no one knows them anymore.

I might. I spent time in a few contenders.

My first age was in a kingdom with no monarch at war with outside kingdoms hitting in while we were hitting out. I've joined kingdoms post civil war mass exodus, run solo in a shell, and occupied kingdom where I was the only active. Spent several ages in sub-charts bullied by other sub-charting kingdoms. The names escape me, but usually tagged as video games I never heard of.

PS A rose by any other name, I'd have loved it if one was named Retal Krill. Theme is everything.
20-03-2019, 20:27
Madchess

anyone who can beat beeing in a 22 man kingdom and making more uniques than the other 21 provinces combined in war, 0/4 and worst potential for a warring kingdom ever.
21-03-2019, 01:04
StratOcastle

I feel for traffic reports we have reached the age where news outlets can employ their own drones. They can guide the drone, saddled with camera, up to the vehicles causing jams and slow downs and let us all know who these people are.

In utopia we could assess who the elder "button-givers" are/were who are notably surprised whenever they do.
Premature eDraculation could also be traced, adding two elements of evidently bad province tendencies. Chat log key words(oops, hey guys.., ah crap) following poindexter actions to help reach an objective worst.
21-03-2019, 10:58
DM_Benjamin

Trinity of Absalom
23-03-2019, 07:42
KuhaN

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Originally Posted by DM_Benjamin

Trinity of Absalom

Lol
24-03-2019, 07:44
KuhaN

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Originally Posted by awesom-o

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Lol.
24-03-2019, 22:57
javierNelson

all of them. this game has **** graphics, anyone who plays is an asshole
24-03-2019, 22:58
javierNelson

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Originally Posted by javierNelson

all of them. this game has **** graphics, anyone who plays is an asshole

why does it filter **** but not asshole? these forums are even ****
24-03-2019, 23:18
Pillz

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Originally Posted by javierNelson

why does it filter **** but not asshole? these forums are even ****

Why don't you play
Also pm me your number no homo
24-03-2019, 23:48
javierNelson

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Originally Posted by Pillz

Why don't you play
Also pm me your number no homo

i dont think it gets anymore homo than that bro, no homo
30-03-2019, 02:45
AquaSeaFoam

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Originally Posted by octobrev

To this day, they say Exci has to look under the bed for Sonata players before ASF will come into the room at night. And here BB is showing up in the second post of a worst kingdoms of all time thread...

Now, now, let's not forget that it was Sonata who fabricated an excuse to mass GB Rage when Rage was sitting in #1 and the Rage-Sonata CF was a couple days from expiring. After Rage warred the first of the GB'ing kingdoms (PBs) and was preparing for Sonata, Sonata then mass deleted rather than take that war. Rage continued to farm the rest of Sonata's allies and finished in #1. Hardly the thing of nightmares.

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Originally Posted by flogger

However, after a win, Emeriti still feared ole BB enough to hunt them even in their own end of war! Just the mere sight of BB exploring was enough for them to abandon all previously established norms. Not even Sonata caused such a response. Sure, Dreams got GB'd once, but so fearful of BB the group responsible ceased as soon as we asked, saving the trollfag age.

Emeriti recommended that the a ghetto player (Bourreau) with the #1 province get a cf with BB before BB farmed him. When BB read and didn't respond to Borreau's cf attempts, he made a raze on BB while offering to give BB all the razed land back for a cf. This reality doesn't fit your narrative. Is Emeriti being scared that BB would farm out a large ghetto province (and telling him to get a cf) really something worth bragging about?

The gb on dreams was a clusterf- on many levels but I won't get into that here.
30-03-2019, 04:47
Korp

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Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam

Now, now, let's not forget that it was Sonata who fabricated an excuse to mass GB Rage when Rage was sitting in #1 and the Rage-Sonata CF was a couple days from expiring. After Rage warred the first of the GB'ing kingdoms (PBs) and was preparing for Sonata, Sonata then mass deleted rather than take that war. Rage continued to farm the rest of Sonata's allies and finished in #1. Hardly the thing of nightmares.

Emeriti recommended that the a ghetto player (Bourreau) with the #1 province get a cf with BB before BB farmed him. When BB read and didn't respond to Borreau's cf attempts, he made a raze on BB while offering to give BB all the razed land back for a cf. This reality doesn't fit your narrative. Is Emeriti being scared that BB would farm out a large ghetto province (and telling him to get a cf) really something worth bragging about?

The gb on dreams was a clusterf- on many levels but I won't get into that here.

Now, now, we know the "read and didnt respond" is just a excuse.

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