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20-11-2015, 23:10
beans

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty87

I don't understand why Spartans are still complaining... If you guys think you have any chance of any crown still and that's why you want to 'make amends' with no punishment, you're dreaming

Did you read anything I wrote?
20-11-2015, 23:30
jo.t.reid

Any BSG fans here?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDzT0ga4xtw
20-11-2015, 23:39
Smitty87

Quote:

Originally Posted by beans

Did you read anything I wrote?

Nope. Threads getting old. Dunno why people from Spartans are still here discussing it. Let the leaders sort it out and let's all move on
20-11-2015, 23:45
beans

Quote:

Originally Posted by Smitty87

Nope. Threads getting old. Dunno why people from Spartans are still here discussing it. Let the leaders sort it out and let's all move on

Thats basically what I said. Diplo seems to not be happening so lets just get razed in silence.
21-11-2015, 00:00
TheOne

The amount of new forum accounts created in this thread just to blindly defend Spartans is astonishing. Lol. Whose the guy with many vpns
21-11-2015, 00:10
khronosschoty

Quote:

Originally Posted by TheOne

The amount of new forum accounts created in this thread just to blindly defend Spartans is astonishing. Lol. Whose the guy with many vpns

The same thought had crossed my mind.
21-11-2015, 01:30
StratOcastle

Perhaps Sparta has a spy network that spans the Utosphere. Perhaps this spy network is called Sparticles with a sleeper phalanx ready at a moments notice.
21-11-2015, 02:07
handofthrawn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Ed

I have been nothing but honest here in the forum and in my conversations with you, Khrono. In fact, lets go over the conversation we had on whatsap.

Ed: U gotta understand ur fighting a newb kingdom this time. We are guessing how to handle u guys. Trust me, I got more guys crapping their pants over here than u guys do. lol
Khrono: We are newbs as well. Both have won 3 wars.
Ed: But you guys are the mighty ascension from the forums. we have read about ur exploits
Khrono: What? lol Caught me off guard with that
Ed: Isnt that u?
Khrono: Yes we are ascension, I just done understand the forum reference.
Ed: Maybe I confuse you with someone else
Khrono: We are terrible, we've just played **** kds
Ed: I am old with multiple head injuries. My apologies, I know I have heard ur name before. Maybe we warred.
Khrono: I head ascension was an old warring kd. I was unaware of it when we chose the name. That's not us.

Now you have the nerve to call me libel? Remember, you said I was too honest during negotiations. That's the difference between you and me, Krono. I don't think a person can be too honest, and you think it is admirable to lie. You are an amazing liar Khrono, you had me truly believing you were a nice guy, and we would have a fun, respectful and well fought war. Let your kingdom know that you got 2 of my guys to quit the game, I am sure you will all get a good laugh out of that.

Wait are warrior oath talking about being fair and truthful. Didn't you guy break a CF with no notice with the warlords and do a massacre wave on them while they where hostile with another kingdom. Not to mention the fact they asked you for war and you turned them down two days before. Then you accept a cf they offer and you break it 12 ticks later. Then just hit them till 14 hostile points without giving them the button. Dude you are a hypocrite and need to shut up. Pking is part of the game for a reason and ascension used it. It's not why you lost players. You really lost players because of the way you guys behaved. I really found it funny when one of your guys razed you lol. So please stop being a hypocrite.
21-11-2015, 02:54
Uncle Ed

Handy u need to tell the whole story. Are you even in Warlords? If so, tell everyone what you did to us last age. If not, STFU because I have already talked to the Monarch of Warlords and as far as I know we are on good terms now. They had a chance to take ur advice and hit into our war but they chose not to. Why u still upset? Isn't it the Utopian way that if someone does you dirty you MUST return the favor? (or call in ur friends to do it for you?)

I understand people PK but its not as big a part of this game as u make it sound. I have been in over 40 wars since I came back to the game, and Ascension was the first kingdom to have their TM's Massacre and Kidnap our chained provinces while they slept. Up until then I felt that PK'ing was taboo and frowned upon so even when we had MULTIPLE opportunities to PK someone, we never did. Plus, I just don't think it is very cool. As I said, people work hard building sciences, wpa and honor and to lose it all because you needed to sleep i think is BS.

Yes, we had some people that lost interest in the game and started becoming inactive. We war a lot, which is demanding so people must stay active in war. When they aren't, we raze them and recruit new players. Most go away quietly, but yes one guy did raze my monarch(not me) before we were able to kill him off. So Warrior's Oath is now recruiting if anyone wants to join. We usually get in 7-9 wars an age, and win at least half of them. lol
21-11-2015, 03:55
khronosschoty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Ed

Handy u need to tell the whole story. Are you even in Warlords? If so, tell everyone what you did to us last age. If not, STFU because I have already talked to the Monarch of Warlords and as far as I know we are on good terms now. They had a chance to take ur advice and hit into our war but they chose not to. Why u still upset? Isn't it the Utopian way that if someone does you dirty you MUST return the favor? (or call in ur friends to do it for you?)

I understand people PK but its not as big a part of this game as u make it sound. I have been in over 40 wars since I came back to the game, and Ascension was the first kingdom to have their TM's Massacre and Kidnap our chained provinces while they slept. Up until then I felt that PK'ing was taboo and frowned upon so even when we had MULTIPLE opportunities to PK someone, we never did. Plus, I just don't think it is very cool. As I said, people work hard building sciences, wpa and honor and to lose it all because you needed to sleep i think is BS.

Yes, we had some people that lost interest in the game and started becoming inactive. We war a lot, which is demanding so people must stay active in war. When they aren't, we raze them and recruit new players. Most go away quietly, but yes one guy did raze my monarch(not me) before we were able to kill him off. So Warrior's Oath is now recruiting if anyone wants to join. We usually get in 7-9 wars an age, and win at least half of them. lol

You seem to avoid telling the whole story (concerning the accounts you give of the war between my kingdom and your kingdom) so whats your complaints? (Note: I'm not saying handofthrawn is or is not telling the whole story just pointing something out.)
21-11-2015, 04:10
Championsound

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Ed

Handy u need to tell the whole story. Are you even in Warlords? If so, tell everyone what you did to us last age. If not, STFU because I have already talked to the Monarch of Warlords and as far as I know we are on good terms now. They had a chance to take ur advice and hit into our war but they chose not to. Why u still upset? Isn't it the Utopian way that if someone does you dirty you MUST return the favor? (or call in ur friends to do it for you?)

I understand people PK but its not as big a part of this game as u make it sound. I have been in over 40 wars since I came back to the game, and Ascension was the first kingdom to have their TM's Massacre and Kidnap our chained provinces while they slept. Up until then I felt that PK'ing was taboo and frowned upon so even when we had MULTIPLE opportunities to PK someone, we never did. Plus, I just don't think it is very cool. As I said, people work hard building sciences, wpa and honor and to lose it all because you needed to sleep i think is BS.

Yes, we had some people that lost interest in the game and started becoming inactive. We war a lot, which is demanding so people must stay active in war. When they aren't, we raze them and recruit new players. Most go away quietly, but yes one guy did raze my monarch(not me) before we were able to kill him off. So Warrior's Oath is now recruiting if anyone wants to join. We usually get in 7-9 wars an age, and win at least half of them. lol

the lulz when uncle ed is asking someone why theyre still upset when he takes every opportunity to cry about ascension
21-11-2015, 04:28
markers

Any fwsummary?
21-11-2015, 04:47
jo.t.reid

Take a SN. Find out yourself ;)

Hint: Emerinubs and the U feature prominently.
21-11-2015, 05:10
handofthrawn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uncle Ed

Handy u need to tell the whole story. Are you even in Warlords? If so, tell everyone what you did to us last age. If not, STFU because I have already talked to the Monarch of Warlords and as far as I know we are on good terms now. They had a chance to take ur advice and hit into our war but they chose not to. Why u still upset? Isn't it the Utopian way that if someone does you dirty you MUST return the favor? (or call in ur friends to do it for you?)

I understand people PK but its not as big a part of this game as u make it sound. I have been in over 40 wars since I came back to the game, and Ascension was the first kingdom to have their TM's Massacre and Kidnap our chained provinces while they slept. Up until then I felt that PK'ing was taboo and frowned upon so even when we had MULTIPLE opportunities to PK someone, we never did. Plus, I just don't think it is very cool. As I said, people work hard building sciences, wpa and honor and to lose it all because you needed to sleep i think is BS.

Yes, we had some people that lost interest in the game and started becoming inactive. We war a lot, which is demanding so people must stay active in war. When they aren't, we raze them and recruit new players. Most go away quietly, but yes one guy did raze my monarch(not me) before we were able to kill him off. So Warrior's Oath is now recruiting if anyone wants to join. We usually get in 7-9 wars an age, and win at least half of them. lol

Lol as for the warlords you claim they did a learn wave. They did lots of learn waves last age as they where a human core but dont remember you guys. Last I checked a learn wave is standard in utopia. A massacre wave is not standard last I checked. My point is ascension destroyed you guys and I get your butt hurt. But seriously you lose any morale high ground to comment on game play when your kingdom does things like the situation with warlords . Handle your house before you comment on someone elses.
21-11-2015, 06:43
Judge

Quote:

Originally Posted by handofthrawn

Lol as for the warlords you claim they did a learn wave. They did lots of learn waves last age as they where a human core but dont remember you guys. Last I checked a learn wave is standard in utopia. A massacre wave is not standard last I checked. My point is ascension destroyed you guys and I get your butt hurt. But seriously you lose any morale high ground to comment on game play when your kingdom does things like the situation with warlords . Handle your house before you comment on someone elses.

Wow. So now people cant even do learns/Massacres? Tsk Tsk Binar Tsk Tsk!!
21-11-2015, 18:33
StratOcastle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judge

Wow. So now people cant even do learns/Massacres? Tsk Tsk Binar Tsk Tsk!!

Probably. We should start sending warning messages: sim screenshots of what the projected damage of a wave might've been. Just a heads up.
21-11-2015, 18:36
LoRD_SaMPuaN

Quote:

Originally Posted by StratOcastle

Probably. We should start sending sim screenshots of what the projected damage of a wave might've been.

this ^
21-11-2015, 21:44
handofthrawn

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judge

Wow. So now people cant even do learns/Massacres? Tsk Tsk Binar Tsk Tsk!!

You guys randomly do massacre waves on people. What's the point, besides being a jerk.
21-11-2015, 22:12
StratOcastle

Quote:

Originally Posted by handofthrawn

You guys randomly do massacre waves on people. What's the point, besides being a jerk.

It's to give the button with no incoming acres. A truly humble invitation.
21-11-2015, 22:39
jo.t.reid

Can anyone tell who are United We Stand, please?
21-11-2015, 22:44
Goodwitch

Bart knows , ask him. we are nobody. Just a Ghetto you guys played dirty in the past. Lost Souls, and yea we know...

my mailbox in game is empty and my irc pm is full of threats.
21-11-2015, 23:20
Retailer

Here is the thing, you wrong a kd by their definition. They check around if others agree. Others do agree and they decide to pour (for the sake of the argument) runny poop on your heads as retaliation. Now you get pissed and think that the others shouldnt have agreed because the poop you threw at divinity was infact 5% chocolate 95%poop!

Divinty and others disagree as they dont taste or smell any chocolate among the **** so they keep pouring running poop on you. All the while you are digging a hole in which the poop being poured on you is gathering.

And while divinity is washing off the 95% poop snd 5% chocolate mix you originally threw at them, You are getting more covered in poop...

In other words, make amends and move on. Or practice holding your breaths.
21-11-2015, 23:27
jo.t.reid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodwitch

Bart knows , ask him. we are nobody. Just a Ghetto you guys played dirty in the past. Lost Souls, and yea we know...

my mailbox in game is empty and my irc pm is full of threats.

Thanks for the heads up :) Good luck next age, buddy.
21-11-2015, 23:30
jo.t.reid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer

Here is the thing, you wrong a kd by their definition. They check around if others agree. Others do agree and they decide to pour (for the sake of the argument) runny poop on your heads as retaliation. Now you get pissed and think that the others shouldnt have agreed because the poop you threw at divinity was infact 5% chocolate 95%poop!

Divinty and others disagree as they dont taste or smell any chocolate among the **** so they keep pouring running poop on you. All the while you are digging a hole in which the poop being poured on you is gathering.

And while divinity is washing off the 95% poop snd 5% chocolate mix you originally threw at them, You are getting more covered in poop...

In other words, make amends and move on. Or practice holding your breaths.

That was one of the more graphic posts aimed at Spartans (I think??) Yikes...!! :/
21-11-2015, 23:39
handofthrawn

Quote:

Originally Posted by jo.t.reid

Can anyone tell who are United We Stand, please?

There a good warring kingdom.
22-11-2015, 04:06
Goodwitch

we are? :) we try.

Joe...this won't change anything for next age, you guys have been harassing us since last age. I have told your leader numerous times to just stay away from me and my kingdom. We want nothing to do with y'all but he just keeps going and going. (not because we are scared but because if a kingdom plays us dirty we just avoid them like the plague they are)
Here one of his latest unsolicited pms

<Heaven> glad my woman doesnt' play uto
<Heaven> but does the things a woman should be doing
22-11-2015, 04:07
khronosschoty

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodwitch

we are? :) we try.

Joe...this won't change anything for next age, you guys have been harassing us since last age. I have told your leader numerous times to just stay away from me and my kingdom. We want nothing to do with y'all but he just keeps going and going. (not because we are scared but because if a kingdom plays us dirty we just avoid them like the plague they are)
Here one of his latest unsolicited pms

<Heaven> glad my woman doesnt' play uto
<Heaven> but does the things a woman should be doing

Yikes! LOL
22-11-2015, 05:34
p0ngkol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodwitch

Bart knows , ask him. we are nobody. Just a Ghetto you guys played dirty in the past. Lost Souls, and yea we know...

my mailbox in game is empty and my irc pm is full of threats.

then dont be a ***** plundering kds during war prep. just because you were bigger that time you have no intentions of backing off? and when you accepted cf atlast just to break it a few ticks later and continued with hits?
22-11-2015, 06:16
jo.t.reid

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodwitch

we are? :) we try.

Joe...this won't change anything for next age, you guys have been harassing us since last age. I have told your leader numerous times to just stay away from me and my kingdom. We want nothing to do with y'all but he just keeps going and going. (not because we are scared but because if a kingdom plays us dirty we just avoid them like the plague they are)
Here one of his latest unsolicited pms

<Heaven> glad my woman doesnt' play uto
<Heaven> but does the things a woman should be doing

I've told my kingdom mates off multiple times for using sexist, homophobic, racist language in chat. Bart's about to get an earful from me.. ;)

... but that doesn't make your conduct earlier in the age right.
22-11-2015, 06:31
Goodwitch

:) tagging helps, especially when news do not reflect a conflict ..

We did 2 random plunders into an untagged kingdom. We could have waved but we didn't because we don't make a habit of waving kingdoms smaller than us unless they give us reason.
If after we accept a CF your leader, or any leader for that matter, starts making demands and when denied throws around threats and insults...you do the math ;)
22-11-2015, 07:34
p0ngkol

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goodwitch

:) tagging helps, especially when news do not reflect a conflict ..

We did 2 random plunders into an untagged kingdom. We could have waved but we didn't because we don't make a habit of waving kingdoms smaller than us unless they give us reason.
If after we accept a CF your leader, or any leader for that matter, starts making demands and when denied throws around threats and insults...you do the math ;)

Oh dear... Ofcourse you havent seen us in conflict because we were still prepping for it genius. And yea random plunder isnt the problem. Problem is you wont back off when we told you we were prepping for war. You went ***** mode. And here you are talking about us harassing you since last age? Pfft.
22-11-2015, 08:03
Anri

Quote:

Originally Posted by Retailer

Here is the thing, you wrong a kd by their definition. They check around if others agree. Others do agree and they decide to pour (for the sake of the argument) runny poop on your heads as retaliation. Now you get pissed and think that the others shouldnt have agreed because the poop you threw at divinity was infact 5% chocolate 95%poop!

Divinty and others disagree as they dont taste or smell any chocolate among the **** so they keep pouring running poop on you. All the while you are digging a hole in which the poop being poured on you is gathering.

And while divinity is washing off the 95% poop snd 5% chocolate mix you originally threw at them, You are getting more covered in poop...

In other words, make amends and move on. Or practice holding your breaths.

Quality post. Got me laughing.
22-11-2015, 14:20
p0ngkol

Update on the conflict:
1. Emeriti (as all expected) is using this supposed deal break to farm land from Spartans. They have switched their tactics from razes to trading our largest elves. Spartans are wondering when they are going to raze off the land as they promised?
2. Dicks are sitting silent and doing nothing. Probably hope they can deflect negative attention towards Emeriti rather than themselves. They probably hope for a premature end to this conflict so they can declare Spartans afterwards.
3. CP has stopped razing. Spartans are grateful and will not forget this.
4. Lost Souls keep hitting into the war.
Astonished that Emeriti would so blatantly use this conflict to just stack up land and vie for a higher position with Pandas. Again shows that ABS remains ABS. They got no sense of morality whatsoever and shamelessly display that here.
22-11-2015, 14:33
el-chingatumadre

If emiriti keeps land is that a dealbreak? Will the uto police accept it? Can they show us logs where we can see that they have lost the acres ?

Who watches the watchmen ?
22-11-2015, 14:50
Mithras

Since there is no deal between Emeriti and Spartans in any way since Spartans broke our eoa cf there is no obligation from Emeriti to raze any acres gained from this. Emeriti has on the other hand made inquiries to some kds involved in the conflict about dropping the acres gained during this conflict. Also, no matter how butthurt spartans are or how much whine and conditions they dream up, they will not have say in it.
22-11-2015, 15:01
p0ngkol

so why is emeriti tradding now instead of razing to do the uto-policing work?

so youre not obliged to raze any acres you gained? i thought this was right:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace

Emeriti will not be keeping their land they took from Spartans. They have talked to me and others about razing it out as soon as we are done. No one gains off of policing a deal break.
22-11-2015, 15:04
hugbeast

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace

Emeriti will not be keeping their land they took from Spartans. They have talked to me and others about razing it out as soon as we are done. No one gains off of policing a deal break.

Requote
22-11-2015, 15:31
Korp

Quote:

Originally Posted by p0ngkol

so why is emeriti tradding now instead of razing to do the uto-policing work?

so youre not obliged to raze any acres you gained? i thought this was right:

Why is Sparta sending kd members to other kingdoms so they can then farmout their province? Why does Sparta cheat? Why is Bart permabanned from the forums and also a convicted cheater? I thought Sparta upheld values!
22-11-2015, 15:55
StratOcastle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Osaze

Hints all around... I can make an educated guess if you want Strato

I forgot about this. It's not a kingdom I wanted to be in but a war.

@ Persain, I never desire war from the point of advantage. I simply have no motive. Thus, I don't pursue kingdoms that leverage positions of strength. The exceptions are visits with friends or to see if we have a spark.

I did a brief stay in Spartans but we are diametrically opposed on method. They were, at the time, low on recruits. This is my calling: to help a kingdom in need. While me and Bart get on quite well, there was some misunderstanding about retal late in the age. Also, they thought I hit someone I didn't which to me indicates a prejudice of nature.( I'm completely peaceful oow and only retal.) There was no reason to stay. I still consider them friends and have enjoyed warring them.

To task, I will not stay in any kingdom that refuses to retal bottom feeders. I'm intelligent enough to know when this can effect my kingdoms t/ms. Since no such kingdom currently exists in both design and doctrine I spend my time in Utopia moving from war to war.

We must all know our happy place.
22-11-2015, 16:46
Zauper

So what's interesting, is that there are times when you can argue that tm is more efficient than raze at doing damage (particularly when a kd is oow and you're looking at 10%+ from tm vs 5% from raze). Conversely, if you're hitting into eow and taking around 2% of the targets land, raze is more than twice as effective.

And it starts to look like the GB is about generating gains, not doing damage or punishing.

It's particularly interesting, and at odds, with other things posted upthread by CP and others in Emeriti. Probably would help to have their story straight.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Andreas

1) Ok
2) Uto police... I'd say the active community.
3) This process will continue until you say stop, give us reasonable terms considering a dealbreak has happened. What the police has gained is of no interest. It will be razed away or offered as compensation for the dealbreak in question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mithras

Since there is no deal between Emeriti and Spartans in any way since Spartans broke our eoa cf there is no obligation from Emeriti to raze any acres gained from this. Emeriti has on the other hand made inquiries to some kds involved in the conflict about dropping the acres gained during this conflict. Also, no matter how butthurt spartans are or how much whine and conditions they dream up, they will not have say in it.

Yeah, the only reason to dodge the issue is because they intend to keep the land.

Quote:

[11:51:35] <Mithras> <zapanap> 2) that mithras posted they won't raze the land.
[11:51:42] <zapanap> ?
[11:51:43] <Mithras> Stop spreading false rumors
[11:51:44] <zapanap> is that not true?
[11:51:51] <zapanap> Since there is no deal between Emeriti and Spartans in any way since Spartans broke our eoa cf there is no obligation from Emeriti to raze any acres gained from this. Emeriti has on the other hand made inquiries to some kds involved in the conflict about dropping the acres gained during this conflict. Also, no matter how butthurt spartans are or how much whine and conditions they dream up, they will not have say in it.
[11:51:55] <zapanap> are you going to raze the land or not?
[11:51:57] <Mithras> especialy about things I'm suposed to have said
[11:52:12] <zapanap> So if you saying 'we don't have to raze the land' means something other than 'we're not going to raze the land', what does it mean?
[11:52:38] <Mithras> it means
[11:52:40] <Mithras> there is no obligation from Emeriti to raze any acres gained from this
[11:52:47] <zapanap> do you plan to raze the land
[11:52:50] <zapanap> or do you plan to keep the land?
[11:52:52] <Mithras> wth can be unclear?
[11:53:06] <zapanap> This is a very simple question.
[11:53:09] <zapanap> Yes or no, do you plan to keep or raze
[11:53:49] <Mithras> Look
[11:53:54] <zapanap> Stop deflecting.
[11:53:55] <zapanap> Yes or no.
[11:54:01] <Mithras> Ypu are not involved in any way
[11:54:07] <zapanap> True
[11:54:10] <zapanap> Do you intend to raze the land?
[11:54:11] <zapanap> yes or no,.
[11:54:20] <Mithras> I have no obligation to answer your questions
[11:54:28] <zapanap> So that's a no. Thanks for being helpful.
[11:54:36] <Mithras> You are spreading bull****
[11:54:42] <zapanap> Do you intend to raze the land?
[11:54:46] <Mithras> About things you obviously know nothing of
[11:54:46] <zapanap> yes or no
[11:54:54] <Mithras> I asked you to stop
[11:54:57] <Mithras> That is all
[11:55:12] <zapanap> All you have to do is say 'we intend to raze the land'
[11:55:17] <zapanap> and i'll apologize and edit my post.
[11:55:37] <zapanap> or you can continue to justify not razing the land and acknowledge that that's your goal.

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