CR vs AMA

After talking it over there is 1 player left from that age currently in kd.

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Originally Posted by zmasternr1

Korp I dont think it's the same players playing/leading havoc now as it was then. And ama probably have a lot of new players as well.
It's two different kds.

Also, seeing how AMA begged havoc not to notice them makes it quite obvious this has nothing to do with some 10 year old grudge. That's just silly excuses.
Ama could have waved Havoc at any time over the last 5 weeks that havoc spent pumping on 30% draft. But no, they waited until 5 days before havoc was about to wave them.
It's quite obvious all their options were gone and they were pushed into a corner.

Either lose the age or dealbreak to win it.

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With that logic anyone can do **** then just replace few players and leadership each age to avoid any consequense. I am sorry it dont work like that, Absalom made sure thats now how it works.


Yet again, its not 10 year old grudge, neither is it a 20 ages. They respected the CF, as long as they werent pushed into a corner, if you push someone hard enough eventually they will bite obviously.

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

If I traced back the shell of each top kd I could find so much bad play.

As your proteus pointed out, a kd stops being a kd when the leadership leaves (see rage RBL). CR =/= Havoc. And with that since Elit is away getting elbow deep in chess groupies, you now have all the ****/power play from proteus on your head.

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I dont play in AMA and for the love of God dont say my Proteus, hes a tool. (In fact I dislike AMA as much as the next person cause Elit is a tool as well)

korp u seem to forget an aspect. every kd has the right to play thier advantage as they see fit .

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Originally Posted by Korp

I dont play in AMA and for the love of God dont say my Proteus, hes a tool. (In fact I dislike AMA as much as the next person cause Elit is a tool as well)

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Please do not attack Elit. He is nice man. He is my idol, mentor, lover, sister, brother.

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Originally Posted by Band of Horses

Why do people keep talking about what havoc did in the past? I don't see Havoc involved in this current conflict.

My hopes for the outcome of all this:

Simians wins age
Ovenmitt makes a triumphant return
Elit loses to a 7 year old girl at his chess tournament

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You had me at past.....

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Originally Posted by Dark Knight

You had me at past.....

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Please, we can fight later this is time for love and peace. I offer you EOA CF (which I will honor just like AMA)

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Originally Posted by bounceOS

korp u seem to forget an aspect. every kd has the right to play thier advantage as they see fit .

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I dont see anything wrong with how Havoc played this out besides maybe threatning to double hostile AMA if they engaged with Pyro. Its just the hypocrisy of the people of Havoc, they getting upse for something done to them while they have no issues with playing dirty themselves.

Elit is a chess player.
I have the same hobbie, how does pyro crown from here?

that was a genius move (though more likely lame one) by AMA. my mind is so fixated on three options. i ddnt know that there's that bloody option 4! CR cows just caught having their pants down.

i do think they have not trained/drafted those soldiers yet. well, the epic war on this age just been spoiled

Wait, did they just make a 35k acre wave??

War hero is crap everyone says, but crap can blind you if it hits you in the eye. ;-)

I think I said flexible defensive posture.

A quick tap of the nw tab and I see the former CR distribution has changed dramatically. This is brilliant stuff AMA-PB.

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Originally Posted by Korp

With that logic anyone can do **** then just replace few players and leadership each age to avoid any consequense. I am sorry it dont work like that, Absalom made sure thats now how it works.


Yet again, its not 10 year old grudge, neither is it a 20 ages. They respected the CF, as long as they werent pushed into a corner, if you push someone hard enough eventually they will bite obviously.

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except CR changed not only name, but the entire leadership and almost all players (according to them). so how is that excuse still valid ?

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Originally Posted by zmasternr1

Ama knew Havoc was coming for them and ama was begging havoc to stay away. Just read the first 15 pages of this thread.
Havoc had spent the better part of this age pumping and AMA's CF was about to expire.

What were ama's options?
Fight a much better pumped kd and get farmed.
Try to fight a better pumped Pyro and get vultured by Havoc oow no matter the outcome.

The only chance for ama to win the age was by hitting Havoc 5 days before cf expire, in the middle of their pump.
Then try to throw up 20 ages old dirt to try to justify their actions and hope Pyro and co refrains from teaming up with Havoc.

In either case it was a really lame move that should not go unpunished.

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Zmaster! =)

also after that sanc/havoc/ama debacle, next age ama/bb threatened havoc with 2vs1 in order to get a cf using the same excuse. according to your logic one can use an event to justify ****play age after age. that's just insane.
anyone who has any brains can see this move was ama's only chance to win this age so they decided to throw amorality out of the window and secure their crown. i am curious what elit, the creator of ama, will have to say since apparently he was away.
also i am curious what Proteus has to say about initiating this move (according to cello) since he constantly complained on these forums about other people not respecting the deals they had with him and ****playing him over the ages.