#EndTheAge

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Originally Posted by Uhm hoi

So, do the 296 replies in this thread go ontop of the end date or is someone in charge really bad at math?

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Math. Not even once.

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Originally Posted by Coffee

Age cannot end until CD/goats war ends

i need closure lol

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Is our war really that interesting?

We just hit the two week mark for war. Total of three weeks if you start at their initial wave on us (Goats).

When we wanted to declare, they were 4% too big, we had to drop their NW a bit to get button. Also had 40k acres on us (mostly ours). Lost all of our honor though. Think we were top five honor before getting waved.

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Originally Posted by stealth4785

Is our war really that interesting?

We just hit the two week mark for war. Total of three weeks if you start at their initial wave on us (Goats).

When we wanted to declare, they were 4% too big, we had to drop their NW a bit to get button. Also had 40k acres on us (mostly ours). Lost all of our honor though. Think we were top five honor before getting waved.

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That big elf may get prov crown the way he's going

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Originally Posted by Smitty87

That big elf may get prov crown the way he's going

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Not that I'm advocating for this, but if other people in contention really wanted the province crown, I'm sure they would do something about it.

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Originally Posted by Elit

This was big gift for my morning coffee but you need several corrections so i will process its slow and with care!

First sure i have made some non optimal chart decisions but its was what i belie is fair one. I never have done GB other kingdoms like you and i keep my conflict 1vs1 and don't use friends for slow/drag my competitors like you have done many times.
About Sanctuary and Havoc incident you never admitted ABS was wrong for double hostile and power play us. Last time when we had talk i already told you i was looking for Dorje and CF Sanc but he gone for 4 days from irc. Here was no one from Sanc to talk with them for CF. From other side they had full Kd online right after post war end for start massive rob us when every one know we are preparing for war Havoc. Why no one from Sanctuary contacted us and ask for CF but they decide to start offensive actions against us. When they had zero chance if we b2b war? Answer is very simple. Dorje was mad for loss his war and wanted to prevent us from farm Havoc and win age. So your alliance steeped in.

We never had offer for reasonable time for prepare after all BS start. Sanctuary not robed some gold but they complete FG all our gold and FB all your provs. You need over week time for recover from it and all what Havoc offered was to reset with 2h notice. I don't see how this cover all dmg done from Sanctuary. Its cost us losing all cows in double hostile and still after it we declared and farmed Havoc core. Imagine if we had fair 1vs1 conflict when we had bigger and more cows from havoc. Its was easy win for us.

About me deal breaking, guess its your favorite :P
Well i have done it but its was all time after another side first break his deals with me first. So its not really deal break. For example when you refer to Pyro here is many facts not know from rest because its was all private talk i had with CJ. But one from main reason CR gb on us was succes is my mistake to gave trust CJ and Nesta. Its was me who told them to go fort stance and draft up much before we waved CR and only because they had his KD full ready CR had chance for success GB us. If you drop Pyro they never had chances with rest involved kds to beat us. I told very clear CJ we don't aim to win age its for punish CR so he can set war them and if he win we will let Pyro win age. Problem is he was scared from us and got triked to deal break us and join GB. Its was first time when he deal break us, still i didn't keep grudge and next few ages helped him and teach about game. Still another time he didn't keep what he promised me. Age what you refer about hit Pyro both BB and Pyro close his eyes about Pew Pew,Jerks having team play again us and all this inspired and arranged behind scene from you. Its only natural to expect your ally to help you, special when you have them n1-2 on server. Its was terrible decisions from both BB and Pyro to go for chart and not help us. Pew Pew first teamed with other kingdoms and second deal break us giving 48h notice when we had 72h. 2-3h before expire 48h notice they extended it with 24h....to make it legit. Sure its help KD with no gold stock when you have sit on 100+ mill. I still didn't forgive flogger and protector for his selfish decision and act during this age. But how you see after we disband BB didn't had much success when loss his main ally.

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Elit,

I won't get into specifics, but I said all along back then that i did not condone the Sanc/Havoc situation and I acknowledged some wrongs. I also pointed out the wrongs you made at the time and explained the reasons why Sanc and Havoc felt they needed to act as they did based on your actions. The details are not relevant to this thread so I won't rehash them here and you can find me on IRC if you want to discuss. The summary though is that I acknowledged wrongs at the time and now but you still refuse to admit any wrongs by you ever. Most of forum readers have lived through ages with your shenanigans.

You say you never gb'd anyone, but you did deal break your ally for refusing to gb pew pew when you wanted them to. It wasn't team play against you. You dodged pewpew to war Jerks, won, then didn't want to face pew pew who had been sitting waiting for you. So you instead b2b Jerks who were by then way smaller than you. This was just like when you b2b Sanc to avoid Havoc only in this case Jerks did make every effort to reach out and cf you before hand. You continued to dodge pew pew and refused to cf Jerks even when they had been hit out of range because you knew when you cf'd you'd have to face pew pew. This was all your own doing and your allies realized that and that's why they wouldn't gb pew pew to save you from them.

As for WoL and Alias, Alias was in no way fully traded (probably about the same level as your kingdom.) Age start scripting that was rampant on WoL due to the requirements to stay on the casual server of needing a significant amount of players to select to not stay in the kingdom. Battlefields didn't need this same age start scripting, and so scripting on Battlefields was mostly done after deletion sweeps. New kingdoms generally also scripted together on WoL although not exclusively. I did not play in Alias so I can't comment on their war with you. Rage was a merger of Alias and Destiny.

You're simply in denial if you seriously think that there wasn't a major difference in quality of battlefields kingdoms and WoL kingdoms. By definition and design of Mehul, all of the kingdoms who performed reasonably well and had a high number of returning players were all automatically placed on battlefields with only the poorly performing kingdoms with lower numbers of returning players placed on WoL. While there were some good WoL kingdoms who abused the rules with scripting to stay on Wol, it's pure ridiculousness to claim that the WoL kingdoms on average were anywhere near as good as the Battlefields ones. By the very design of the servers, they were not. (Note that the first two ages of the split servers were an exception since this dichotomy didn't exist until the third age of the splt.)

Regarding scripting and crosslogging and whatnot for you and Mike: Absalom had an official policy against scripting and crosslogging. This policy was both public and internal. I am not saying that this prevented it completely within Absalom, but I will say that kingdoms within Absalom who did it had to hide it from Absalom leadership and others in Absalom and risked expulsion if conclusively discovered. I'm not claiming we were angels, and I don't deny we traded every bit as much as anyone else, but we did have policies in place against crosslogging and scripting. While the policies may not have eliminated it completely, they certainly did lower the extent compared to the "Anti-Abs" kingdoms who openly embraced it.

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Originally Posted by brandonc204

The new science system is much simpler than the previous science system, but it does take away much of the incentive for being a sage (in my opinion).

Overall, i'm just happy the developers are tinkering with the game mechanics. Without change, things do get rather dull after awhile.

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I'm running an undead sage and it's an interesting combination. It's not the height of team mechanics that a dwarf might be and not the power hitter a faery could be in ops, but it offers great utility in hostile.

Initially I came at undead sage as a way to tinker with the new science and still have a viable attacker. The science systems has emerged as credible and synergies well with undead. If sage had turned out to be a bust then I still had a high octane attacker with sturdy science defense. I've emphasized the ability to cast amnesia vs enemy core so my build strat has been guild heavy all age. It's the ability to abduct vs high defense targets and cast amnesia in combination that makes this build formidable.

Elit's DB on cJ was justified because cJ DB him first. Elit DB on Mink and Goldy was justified because Mink and Goldy DB him first. Now Elit has forgiven them because Elit is good guy. #Elit2017

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Originally Posted by MyNameIsMatija

Age ends when Binar finishes his theme and I cover my room in Elit posters.

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You better not have more IRL pictures of Elit than me, currently 1.

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Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam

Elit,

I won't get into specifics, but I said all along back then that i did not condone the Sanc/Havoc situation and I acknowledged some wrongs. I also pointed out the wrongs you made at the time and explained the reasons why Sanc and Havoc felt they needed to act as they did based on your actions. The details are not relevant to this thread so I won't rehash them here and you can find me on IRC if you want to discuss. The summary though is that I acknowledged wrongs at the time and now but you still refuse to admit any wrongs by you ever. Most of forum readers have lived through ages with your shenanigans.

You say you never gb'd anyone, but you did deal break your ally for refusing to gb pew pew when you wanted them to. It wasn't team play against you. You dodged pewpew to war Jerks, won, then didn't want to face pew pew who had been sitting waiting for you. So you instead b2b Jerks who were by then way smaller than you. This was just like when you b2b Sanc to avoid Havoc only in this case Jerks did make every effort to reach out and cf you before hand. You continued to dodge pew pew and refused to cf Jerks even when they had been hit out of range because you knew when you cf'd you'd have to face pew pew. This was all your own doing and your allies realized that and that's why they wouldn't gb pew pew to save you from them.

As for WoL and Alias, Alias was in no way fully traded (probably about the same level as your kingdom.) Age start scripting that was rampant on WoL due to the requirements to stay on the casual server of needing a significant amount of players to select to not stay in the kingdom. Battlefields didn't need this same age start scripting, and so scripting on Battlefields was mostly done after deletion sweeps. New kingdoms generally also scripted together on WoL although not exclusively. I did not play in Alias so I can't comment on their war with you. Rage was a merger of Alias and Destiny.

You're simply in denial if you seriously think that there wasn't a major difference in quality of battlefields kingdoms and WoL kingdoms. By definition and design of Mehul, all of the kingdoms who performed reasonably well and had a high number of returning players were all automatically placed on battlefields with only the poorly performing kingdoms with lower numbers of returning players placed on WoL. While there were some good WoL kingdoms who abused the rules with scripting to stay on Wol, it's pure ridiculousness to claim that the WoL kingdoms on average were anywhere near as good as the Battlefields ones. By the very design of the servers, they were not. (Note that the first two ages of the split servers were an exception since this dichotomy didn't exist until the third age of the splt.)

Regarding scripting and crosslogging and whatnot for you and Mike: Absalom had an official policy against scripting and crosslogging. This policy was both public and internal. I am not saying that this prevented it completely within Absalom, but I will say that kingdoms within Absalom who did it had to hide it from Absalom leadership and others in Absalom and risked expulsion if conclusively discovered. I'm not claiming we were angels, and I don't deny we traded every bit as much as anyone else, but we did have policies in place against crosslogging and scripting. While the policies may not have eliminated it completely, they certainly did lower the extent compared to the "Anti-Abs" kingdoms who openly embraced it.

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Lol @ abs xlogging policy bull****. That is all

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Originally Posted by Pillz

Lol @ abs xlogging policy bull****. That is all

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you should know, it's why your kingdom wasn't accepted despite repeatedly asking to join.

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Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam

you should know, it's why your kingdom wasn't accepted despite repeatedly asking to join.

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Originally Posted by brandonc204

Maybe we should create a thread entitled "Age 70 Changes?", that way we can keep up the demands!

Personally, I want sages to be able to mind melt something.

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Bishop does not negotiate with terrorists.

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Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam

you should know, it's why your kingdom wasn't accepted despite repeatedly asking to join.

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And yet after the very public deletion of our KD, abs still offered us membership if we'd turn on cov during the awar.

I didn't say your policy wasn't in place, just that it was laughable. I mean, ffs grace? Not to mention the multies who played in abs kingdoms...

#endtheboh

Terrified Utopians might want a "Start The New Age" thread.