Ok well thanks for the heads up Sun Tzu, maybe you want to pop your CBs up on the forums for us while you're at it. :)
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If you did give us every chance to walk away, why still wave us??
Why still op us??
Feint & SL. I don't know how many of our messages you have actually seen. A few of our players messaged your monarch when he occasionally shown online, but only got silence back.
You have no irc channel either so it's really hard to discuss things with you.
I don't like all the flaming I see here. I fear it will turn into another grudge that can last until eoa with no kd willing to back off. We both have chances at the nr1 honor spot. Neither of us got anything to win, or prove, by doing this.
The only kds that benefit from this are the other top honor ones.
Understand that we can't stop while we got an open hostile with you. You will keep us under meteors 24/7 and can pretty much declare+wave us anytime you want.
If you are unwilling to war us and want us to stop attacking all you have to do is offer cf. We will accept it and we won't hit you again.
If that's not possible you can come to our irc channel or message our monarch ingame and say your terms.
Like someone said, our leadership is a bit more soft this age (parth excluded-_-).
Lol, this topic is fun!
I love this "One sided hostile".
April 22 of YR8 A Sapphire Dragon from ED one-sided hostile (x:x) has begun ravaging our lands!
Dragon is not hostile action. SWEA and my kd both had dragons started at each other, but pew was justified in waving us.
ok...thanks for informing me. I would probably also be wrong if I claimed I see a differance in STARTING a dragon and SENDING a dragon?
I agree, tt is exactly y i propose tt we move on when the unfriendly relationship was gone and when i got the threaten pm saying we have to give 3 free hits and cf if not prepared to wave coz we apparently "stepped over the line". It could be well over then, until we were waved. There was no more ops when the status was clear.
I dun mean any hostile towards ED, if its a newb who made the mistake then F him upside-down internally and move on with it. Just my view
I would say sending a dragon is a pretty hostile relation. Starting a drake really doesnt do any harm as it's just a paper filler... if BoB is sending drakes at ED as well as continuing with ops... there's really nothing else ED can do but continue to hit until diplo is resolved.
Also, it sounds like this is all in game / forum diplo which is a very poor way to do things. Much easier if you have a conversation on IRC which it looks like ED has given as an option but BoB is not wanting to talk?
In game msgs can be misinterpreted and understood which conversation on IRC clears up most of the time.
Well, what is done is done pretty much. Unfriendly was gone yesterday and we thought it was over. Then you hit our T/M again today. 2 small hits vs one day free opping + 2 big hits doesn't quite cut it. I don't know why you did it tbh.
How do we move on from this though?
(I can understand you got a bit annoyed at the threaten pm, but parth is parth and he was extremely pissed when he wrote it.)
Agreed, but they don't use irc and ingame msgs is a very difficult way to communicate. Although it's a poor way this is pretty much the only place to write and make sure they see it:P
My monarch mentioned before if u wave us, we would send endless dragon. You want us to stop, offer us a cf instead. We already got the top spot in warring chart in age 56 and top spot in honor chart in age 57. Hence we don't fancy the top spot we are holding at the moment. We definitely have the time to have fun with you till eoa perhaps. I don't care which noob province of yours hit into us. The fact is u start hitting us first. So if u wan to end this, then send a cf.
We started the conflict by hitting you so I don't think we have any problems offering you the cf first. I would like to trust you but if I were in your shoes it would be very tempting to squeeze in a couple hits and then accept cf to cancel relations.
For obvious reasons your monarch would have to be online and preferably on irc when we offer it...and he would have to accept it right away.
U hit us 4 times. We hit u 4 times back. For the ops, blame yourself for giving ppl relations needlessly. If u wan to argue about big and small hits, how many acres deficit or gain, then too bad. There won't be an end.
Now who is calling the shot in ED? Master? Silverfox? Parth?
If WW and honour charts aren't worth playing for, and you clearly aren't going for NW/land crown, then what do you play for?
Well, we're ahead of you there buddy. Offered a CF after our #1 wave.
Sender The Conniving King As Eighteens Porn of Ephemera vulgata ()
Recipient King S_L the Sorcerer of World of Dilemma ()
Subject Re:Hi.
Hey. So we did what we felt we had to do. We are willing to make a deal if you still dont want to war - we can take a 3 week CF and put this behind us. Or you can ofc wave back and take it to war. Or you can refuse CF and keep opping, and we will keep hitting. My take on it is that if you dont want to take it to war, it would be good to keep this short.
In my eyes you could have hit back for science and kept it there. Or retalled the same prov for acres. We lost like 30k troops to ms, ops and starvation in total. Hitting the provs you did on top of that feels like intentionally trying to piss us off...
Tedurur is in charge this age btw, but we have a few oldschool players in council that also takes a shot at diplo etc at times. I'm included there.
seams like ED is the ones that wants CF now. lol
Because I enjoy the game?
Am sure there are some people in KD who think WWs matter, am sure most in KD would say that getting #1 honour would be good, I wouldn't deny that it would be.
Point is I couldn't give a toss if we finish #1 or #100, I'm long past the online achievements stage of gaming meaning much at all.
Yeah i agree its fun being with other kd mates in good or bad times,ultimately we are all just playing a text-based game so its fun chatting with others bout stuff in irc/forums and hopefully we can have a competitive but more friendly environment in the forums which will hopefully attract more newcomers to come play this game.
Hey, Im friendly.
Not really, our position hasn't changed; We said we'd take a CF for some free hits, we said we'd accept a CF after we waved & we've said it's still there should BoB want it along with the offer that they can just push the button and war us.
BoB tried to make a stand against a KD they won't war, they've had more than enough friendly offers from us and have refused them all. I don't quite know that their leadership is thinking in this situation, they wont war us because they think they'll lose but believe they're in a position to made demands and claim they don't care about their ranking which doesn't stand with their dodging waring us earlier or even now.
Reading this thread should give a good indication of EDs position, we're not afraid of making a point at any lengths and we don't forget things quickly, this age we're "nicer" which is pretty boring to be honest but we've also shored up our mistakes from last age and won't remake them again.
So, what do you want from BoB?
send cf? You can accept, then cancel it and get you're 3 free hits?
We can CF and move on at any time. We have sent an ingame message to the monarch saying so. We have re-posted said message here on the forums. If your side is willing to CF right now, as it stands, you have it. Obviously, we will not break the CF and start hitting again.
Sounds like ED is willing to to CF and agree to hold CF for a period of time so you wont need to worry about a 'CF canceling for 3 free hits'.
except they also fall victim to racial profiling (not very ethical if you ask me!).. as they only target the sexy kds; AKA us. maybe to be fair, you guys should go after havoc now! Or maybe you will be biting off a piece too big to chew.. for a 3rd time?
you guys getting a little too old for this game now? memory is failing! Ask your monarch.
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Parth man, you guy's were very balls-to-the-walls when you caught us land dropping! Without continuously exercising your Utopian Policing effort, other KDs WILL NOT take you serious!!! This is not like you and will only hinder your ability to take control and execute punitive action in the future! Word around the grapevine is that your old co-monarch (Zauper/HAVOC), the one who started the vendetta to RK us, just land-dropped! Silverfox will agree with me, as he is a board member on the Utopian Ethics Council. Actions speak louder than words!
Why does everyone in Strippers think ED hit you for land dropping?
We hit you for robbing into our EoWCF and being general dips**ts in the forums after our war. Also let me reiterate for a final time, your KD isn't good, your activity in war was garbage, you constantly overlapped ops and your nightmare "wave" was like 30 mins of idiocy where most of you lost all of your runes, infact I'm pretty sure the only thing you actually did decently was spam FB on attackers and prop run on our retards who refused to build WTs and have all been kicked now.
Maybe spend more time teaching your leadership what a notice means and less time being cheating asshats and you wouldn't be a laughing stock between the top KDs.
Damn we ARE bad... I have no clue how we beat you..twice.
And Silverfox dont forget that they should stop cheating to get warwins as well!