GO GOJETE. FIGHT THE IMPERIALIST ORDAY. DOWN WITH GOOD STRATEGY!
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GO GOJETE. FIGHT THE IMPERIALIST ORDAY. DOWN WITH GOOD STRATEGY!
huzzaah!
Now this post, I will pick apart piece by piece and enjoy it immensely.
I'd hardly call the armies that you have "strong and able" unless by that you meant "frail and weak."Quote:
Originally Posted by gojete
Actually, why don't you PM your former monarch and ask him if he thinks that I was sincere or not in my apology. I was; and, from the back and forth that we had last night, it would appear that he does believe so.Quote:
You apologized to the monarch only because I left the kd, which i had to defect form, because i dont want to see them being hurt by my haters.
This is an example of failure to lead. If it's either accept your strategy as a good one or PK you, then you've obviously failed to do what any good monarch should do which is to unite the KD, not divide them as you say is your way.Quote:
My way of ruling my province and the way I have rule kingdoms , is making the people who dont agree or like me or my ways, try to kill me and try to make me go into exile , again because they cant stand it that more and more players are using high homes and benefiting from my strategies .
As I said, I never asked anyone to help me, and I even told those who asked for your location that I did not want their assistance. If someone else found your province and decided to take a swing or two, then it wasn't by my doing. I've already made my intentions clear. I don't see the need to do so once more.Quote:
The kd i defected from, all of the sudden got hit by several kindoms, not only ordrays, This is clear sign that there is a group of people of haters , that go around mocking and bullying other players, and there is no one to stand against them.
As I've said before, I'm not part of some conspiracy trying to remove you from the game because we disagree. That would go against the moral fiber of my being, and I would never do that. You can keep on labeling me as one of the haters if you want to; you're entitled to be wrong as long as you would like.Quote:
I dont believe that the mods, which also belong to the hater alliance, or out of game policies should prevent this from happening. Not by penalizing it, not by preventing it with threats , and not by punishing them, but by them themselves , coming to the realization of what they are actually doing.
Ah, I see that I am part of some large scale conspiracy of hate. Would you like a aluminum foil hat with that theory? I think that the one that you're wearing right now is probably too tight.Quote:
But then again, people who are extremely overweight just cant stop eating even when they know its bad, and alcoholics cant stop drinking even when they get to see that its killing them and everyone around them. And it pains them and it suffers them but they cant stop their behaviour.
This might be treated as a sickness instead . What is the treatment that the haters must go through to help themselves and thus stop hurting others ?
I rather see that the haters realize how much they hate and how much evil they do onto the world with their actions, thus putting an end to this kind of behavior .
If there was enough good ppl in the world , to stop them, the only way would be by razing the hater alliance provinces and kingdoms, thus also contributing to the war and in the end the non haters would end up being the new haters .
Please tell me who I flamed when they supported you. I want names and examples. I never ordered anything done to you or your former KD, nor did I request anything be done to them ever. I even went so far as to offer a CF to their monarch as soon as I was made aware of the situation, which he accepted along with my apology, the very same hour that it was offered.Quote:
The hater alliance is doing an embargo on my province, attacking anyone who might try to help me in any way or is related with me in any way, by in game attacks and ops, and flames and attacks in the forums.
Wrong. This has nothing to do with your strategy or my authority, never was, at least for me and my KD. I can't vouch for others, but I've made my intentions clear from the get-go.Quote:
-The hater alliance want to control monopoly of the game , because it makes them feel superior, and feeds their egos .
-The hater alliance want to control and have control the forums for far too long . And anyone opposing their authority is to be destroyed . This is all that is happening here .
Wrong again. This whole debate is springing up from you pushing a bad build as a great strategy, not our unwillingness to accept a new build or playing style. You're pushing something as superior when it has been proven to be inferior. YOU are the one who is being extremely close minded even while accusing others of being such.Quote:
-The hater alliance can not and will not accept any kind of thoughts and game styles made public in the forums , which goes against the hater alliance beliefs and values, for it is a threat to their beliefs and ways of viewing the world
Ask those who are members of my KD. Ask those whom I have warred in the past. I play fair, am governed by a rather strict set of moral values, and disapprove of bullying. But then again, I doubt that you'd believe the truth, even if it were written on the wall.Quote:
-The hater alliance , is therefore , a group of people who thrive in the lack of fair play, proper moral values, and overall are bullies .
I can't argue much with you there, because I am open minded, and I'd like to believe that I've always treated people fairly and have been a generally good person.Quote:
-The hater alliance members, belief themselves, that they are open minded, fair and square good people, that are open to new ideas and want nothing but the best for everyone.
I've never said that the end justifies the means. And I've never said that everything that I do is good; I'm human. I tend to screw up just as often if not more than the average person.Quote:
-The hater alliance members clearly live in self deception and believe that all they do is good, "the means of doing it might not be so morally proper, but the ends is what matters and the end is good" this is the haters alliance way of doing things.
I do believe that I am right, but I don't attack people because I think that they are wrong. Call me self-righteous or whatever you would like. Like I said earlier; you're entitled to your opinion, no matter how far from the truth that it truly is.Quote:
-The hater alliance strongly believes that they are right, and thus , they must fight for righteousness . But its clear that they are more self-righteous than the other.
And maybe if we repeat a lie enough times, people might actually believe it.Quote:
-The hater alliance live in blind belief that their ideas , thoughts and actions are good and right. And their blind belief has blocked their heads from seeing how wrong they are.
They're liars.
They don't know that they're liars.
They believe that their lies are the truth.
The speak lies for truth.
They're all EVIL liars!
No, actually I quite often admit that I am wrong. I actually have the guts to do that. I can't speak for everyone of this "Hater's Alliance" but I've always been one to admit it when I'm wrong.Quote:
-The hater alliance can and will never accept that they are wrong , publicly , they carry the banner of forgiveness and understanding, but inside themselves, they carry the banner of hatred and destruction!
Ask me if I care. Then ask me if I think that it's probable that you could do that. The answer to both would be the same.Quote:
Ordray
If I didnt have all this kds hitting one me , even with you hitting me everyday as you are doing now, if it was only you, i can easily grow your size and bring you down with ease, even with you hitting me everyday as you are doing now, you couldnt stop me from growing and taking your land and in the end razing you probably to death.
This would be the difference between you and I. I don't feel the need to do so; I play by the rules. I don't give out others' info, and I don't call in outside help.Quote:
This is how good I rule my province . Your skills are inferior to mines, that is just how it is. You better call on more allies and give my location to everyone in this forums cause otherwise ill never die.
To defeat a KD, don't you normally have to, I don't know, beat them in some way? Finding a way to scrounge up enough gc and soldiers to barely keep ahead of the 14.5 hours attack times of a couple of provinces is hardly a resounding victory. Surely you can explore back the 60 acres/14.5 hours that I destroy, can't you?Quote:
And if I grew to your size and started trad marching you and razing you to death, you would call on help from your kd and allies from the evil alliance to destroy me, for you clearly can not accept defeat, after i single handedly defeated your kd, whose purpose was to destroy me, after almost 48 hours of war,
No, you've reached the cap for GBP I'm afraid. Attacking you more won't make you stronger, and I have a feeling that your new KD won't be of much help. Last I checked, the only thing that you've gained from this is a few acres. Your defenses are less than half of what they were and your NW has plummeted.Quote:
My province stands alive, well , prospering , growing and my building efficency is high, and my population is happy and proud and they have a clear sense of justice and the more you try to attack them the stronger my province will become . For all the land that your kingdom has taken from my province, I can easily regain from you alone. And you can not play a fair 1v1, and you know you would lose, miserably, and your ego, is in pain, for you know now, that you are inferior to my forces and that we could easily destroy you, in a fair fight . And thus , you fight cheap.
Here you are again comparing what I am doing to harassment. Was it harassment when your KD pk'd him? No. You were responding to the actions of another, much as I am doing here. And once again, I'll state that I do not order anyone to assist me in a personal matter. If I would have, then we'd not be having this conversation right now.Quote:
On a side note, we had a province of 600 acres hitting on us last age over and over , and we sent mesasges and told him to stop, and when he didnt stop, i made the order to pk him and he was dead under 20 hours . Even at ordering to pk a province im better monarch than you are.
You paralleled my actions with those of the Nazi party, genocide, and hate crimes. Just look back at your own post.Quote:
When did I ever call you nazi . Ordray, this is not an insult, and as you say , going through the whole post would hurt your eyes , your mind and shake your beliefs and views about yourself.
I would encourage you to indeed try it. It might not be the best build in the world, but I believe that you'll find it to equal to if not better than your high homes strat and it is much more easily achieved. If you need a copy of the ones that I sent your former monarch, then I'll be happy to oblige.Quote:
Just like I told you in a previous post , You are assuming that im talking things about you that im not, and i did mention the guardstations dragon saying it was someone else who recommended it to me . And as for your tips, i was even going to try the dwarf sage spread sheet that you gave the monarch myself late in the age.
I'm not driven by hatred. I can honestly say that in my entire time playing Utopia that I've only ever hated 1 person, and that's not you. Afik, he doesn't even play any more so that's a moot point. Your own lack of understanding is very striking. By saying that I wasn't going to quote your post and rebut each and every statement, I did not mean that I hadn't read your entire posts. If you had actually read and comprehended my reply, the you'd realize that I was posting a very brief and to the point rebuttal, which even then turned out to be quite lengthy despite my desire for its brevity.Quote:
BUt if you believe you are for freedom of speech, and liberties and values , you must see by yourself that you are driven by hatred and live in self denial. For as you may try to make your posting very elocuent, your lack of understanding skills, your unwillingness to read a whole post, and thus, your creation of assumptions and conclusions out of your own well cemented beliefs and ideas, prevents you from any type of real clarity in thought, and thus act by pure emotional and fanatical fervor , and this acts cause nothing but self damage .
More like this: you depleted your stockpile of 1.7m gc and 4k soldiers trying to explore to survive and you're not able to keep your population up enough to continue for much longer.Quote:
And note that im bigger than before after the chains from the haters and that i received no aid other than 50k bushels . All soldiers and money i needed to not get killed by your kd and others who are razing me ATM i made all by myself.
No matter how many times that I tell you the truth, you just won't believe me will you? I didn't ask nor do I want those other KDs hitting you. If anything, they've just put you into a higher bracket of GBP and helped you with their trads taking 0-1acres.Quote:
I single-handedly am taking on all the haters which include but are not limited to :
Miniopia 7From assassins kd attacked and oped
Many provinces from Rebuilding Our Legacy (Note from Ordray: I'd like to clarify this once more. These are the only ones who are attacking because of my request. Only 6 attackers and maybe 2 t/ms participated.)
Zombie Canarie ,from kingdom Zombie Zoo
One Mission s from assasins kd , oped
Dorpat , from kingdom babies at war,( who hits out of war into me ) for 1 acre lol
pink watermelon from kingdom garden of war ops riots
Unknown province from kd Winterfell, attacked
Legacy of Khorinis , from kingdom dungeons and dragons ?
Dancing Wrench of Bane from kingdom DnD recruiting
SaNines Shed at kingdom Unknown Home at WARRR
(in war relations )
Yep, that was me. Thanks for sharing with everyone :)Quote:
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray ) razed 25 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray () razed 21 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray ( razed 18 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
February 20 of YR2 BOL Ordray () razed 15 acres of Quad tap you 4 X a day ().
I really wish that those people would stop pushing you into a higher GBP bracket so I can be done with this already.Quote:
All the haters are doing ridicule damages on my province :
February 17 of YR2 Dorpat () invaded Quad tap you 4 X a day () and captured 1 acre of land.
Only 34 from my KD, so I'm assuming that you've received at least 7 more attacks since you're claiming well over 40.Quote:
I have received well over 40 attacks with armies, plus inumerable ops, in constant greed, riots ,droughts, plague and so on . And again, im single-handedly surviving against the haters.
This is a victory for goodness and all that is right .
lol That's pretty much all that I have to say about that, so I'll say it again. lolQuote:
And after seeing all this survival, the haters may rally up even stronger forces and allies and the hater alliance will proably grow, and if that is the case , i will not survive the day.
Other than that, if its the same number of haters hitting one me, ill live forever , and thrive and prosper and grow.
By any case, if I do die, let it be know that i died because the haters killed me, out of hate.
Boko, you shall suffer the same fate as these other feeble peons! Prepare to die! (in case someone doesn't pick up the joke, that's what it is.)
How's that for a long post?
half of it is gojete's, so you fail lol
Meh, 1339 words were mine. lol It would have been awesome if I'd have trimmed it down by 2 words to make it 1337 :P What can I say, I believe that Gojete will always have me beaten in long, rambling posts. ;)
Ordray , Your evilness is beyond that of a normal person, for as a normal individual might make mistakes, you insist on them, and even though you have failed to kill my province, , after 72 hours , is way over proving a point, its right out of hatred and evilness , because your ego has been hurt, and seeks for retribution by the hurts of others.
After 72 hours, you had time enough to kill quad tap, and having clearly failed, in more than the minimum time a war lasts, you are to withdraw your forces from Quad Tap .
Know that my province represents all that is good, and that if you keep striking on my brave troop, the hammer of justice shall and will fall upon you.
Evil Alliance, do right by the All Mighty Force ;
hand over to gojete, the acres of Quad tap which you have taken. He has come on behalf of the All Mighty Force to support the ruler of Quad Tap, and is quite ready to make peace, if you are willing to do right, so long as you give up Quad Tap, and make amends for attacking it.
Evil alliance , if you do not do so, I am a commander, wherever I come across your provinces in Quad tap , if they are not willing to obey I shall make them leave, willing or not. And if they are willing to obey, I will have mercy upon them.
Know that if they will not obey, gojete is coming to wipe them out. He comes in behalf of the All Mighty Force - an eye for an eye- to drive you out of Quad Tap . And gojete promises and guarantees that he will cause such a great clash of arms there that not for a dozen ages has another one so great been seen in Utopia, if you do not do right.
And believe firmly that the All Mighty Force will send more force to him and his good men-at-arms than you would be able to have in a hundred assaults.
You , provinces, soldiers who are attacking Quad Tap, go back to your own land, in the All Mighty Forces name. And if you do not do so, watch for gojete, and you will shortly contemplate your misfortunes.
Do not think otherwise, for you will never hold Quad Tap from the All Mighty Force , from gojete , but rather it will be held by Knight ogt , the true heir, to whom the All Mighty Force has given it, who will enter your provinces with a fine contingent of troops.
If you do not believe the tidings from the All Mighty Force and gojete, wherever we find you we will strike against you harshly, and you will see who will have the better right, the All Mighty Force or you .
Ordray ,self proclaimed killer of Quad Tap , reply if you want to make peace or not at the province of Quad Tap. If you do not do so, then you will contemplate your misfortunes .
Gojete asks and requests that you will not cause your own downfall. If you do not do right, you will be able to see before your very eyes that in his company, the All Mighty Force will do the finest deed ever done in Utopia
Written in Quad tap as of March 4 of YR2 (next tick: 37 minutes)
From the All Mighty Force and gojete.
To Ordray , who calls himself killer of Quad Tap, general of the Evil alliance and to the Evil alliance .
I'm impressed that gojete managed to compare being attacked in utopia to genocide and the eugenics movement and people are still responding.
Is this some kind of experiment to see if you can kill a troll by overfeeding it?
I think that we did. His last post makes even less sense than the average Gojete post. If that's possible ;) He might have finally snapped.Quote:
Originally Posted by Eldest
attica! Attica!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ordray
I hope you aren't a math major. 50% homes gives +15% pop, and that's at 100% BE, which you won't be at since you are running 75% draft. 20-30%? Are you high?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dragonite
maybe with housing science? but it wasnt said.
ok guys I am now actually worried about gojete mental state. I think we should should leave him alone ignore any posts.
this is not a piss take. I think we should just leave him be, let him do what he wants too and just correct any misinformation he may post.
lol. maybe one of us should invite him to thei kingdom and show him real kingdom strats
or we can just feed the troll more and see how far he will go?
his last post was close to fundamentalist delirium with dreams of grandeur and worship of some unknown god. how much farther can he go?