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When did I say populist view is always bad? I said its a bad system to base your laws on and I have given examples, plenty of times the majority will have the right notion as to what is best for a society, but that doesn't mean you should always accept the majority opinion.
So first you claim that laws are dictated by majority because of the electoral system and now you admit that representatives don't represent the majority of their constituents.
Thank you for admitting defeat so plainly. :|
I think we should all agree that countries that are run off bail outs shouldn't voice opinions on politics. Ireland/Greece/Italy/Spain/Portugal your policies have lead your economy to failure.
At least the USA isn't as messed up as you :D
Yes, I am the dictator/monarch/arch-chancellor/chicken-supreme/BurgerKing of Ireland. I run it, own it, set policy and tell it when to go to bed.
I do think the US is just about as messed up as those other countries. The only thing saving it at the moment, though, is that its dollars still have the status of world reserve currency. Therefore any further debt it wants to incur can just be printed away. Other nations are already discussing alternative world currencies, however, so soon the jig will be up.
you guys need a hobby
Discussing politics is a hobby.
Flaming Americans is a way of life apparently :PQuote:
Originally Posted by flutterby
LOL, silly Europeans. Can we send the Liberals back to you? America is a Republic not a Democracy, Majority rule doesn't apply. The Constitution is the Law of the land not the majority of the people. Still sometimes I think the Article of Confederation would be better, not to be confused with the Confederate States of America Constitution.
Here is a Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rVuUr...eature=related
Flame away! 'chuckle'
1. we do have social security, however because of our superior medical system our ppl are living WAY longer than anyone ever anticipated. This is costing us more money than previously believed(partly due to inflation). We do need a revamp of the system and we need to ensure that those currently dependent on the system are taken care of.Quote:
Originally Posted by stoffi
2.No health coverage, okay, if you get welfare you qualify for a medical card. a basic co-pay from your job typically costs $15 for a single and $35 for a family of 5 per month. If your rich you have really good health coverage. The ppl complaining about not having coverage are only complaining b/c netflix and Wii are more important than the health of their families.
3. 40 million poor is a lot, cant argue with that, what i can argue with is WTF are they doing about it. (I'm in that 40 million btw). I'm currently working to gain assets and money to franchise a restaurant. A lot of people don't have the intelligence or the drive to know how to build or run a company. There are many govt and public assistance programs out there and with the internet there is no reason a person cant self educate. There is no shame in being poor,some ppl choose to stay poor b/c of the humbling lifestyle.
4.Trailer Trash, This kinda leads back to the poor thing, trailers are cheap to buy and lot rent is also low. So a lot of times ppl who cant afford a house (we aren't talking ppl who simply live in a mobile home we are talking straight trash here) due to poor life choices end up in trailers and you have trailer trash. Now trailer trash isn't just limited to trailers trashy ppl are everywhere, its a part of the I don't give a F+*/ generations from the 70's and 80's, not to say trash didn't exist before that it was just less mediatized. (is that a word, if not I'm trademarking it)
5. the middle class is disappearing because the children of the previous middle class are idiots, and so are their children. They try to live outside their means. They want their children to have a better start than they had. with a 50-75k a year job YOU CANT AFFORD 3 KIDS A DOG A 300K HOUSE 2 CARS a boat and a yearly family vacation. all that stuff is why you don't have healthcare. kids you need to understand(do kids play utopia?) if you are going to be successful in life its not by starting where your parents are now, you have to work your ars off to reach that point.
6. I think this is a media and states rights issue. 2% of Americans are atheist. They get way too much voice. not to say anyone should be denied free speech, but we are a country based on God. No any particular or specific God, just God. The idea that one exists and our country is ordained by Him/Her/It. As it just so happens 87% of the USA identify themselves with Christianity. (many of our founding fathers were not Christians) If you don't know, our country is divided into states and each state is supposed to be able to govern the way the people in that state see fit to be governed. Therefore each state has the right to include any religion they see fit into their laws, or not. The constitution says the federal Govt doesn't have the right to stop them, however mistranslation and lobbying by atheist and anti-christian platforms has led to the removal of religion from govt instead of govt from religion. States rights is what makes America great because if you don't like the law in one state go to another that suits you better knowing that you will be free to live under a rule of law chosen by like minded people. As for just straight Fanatics as in bat poo insane, they need to read their holy books a little more (unless your book is telling you to kill everyone). I know many Christians don't read theirs enough, or try hard enough to understand the message. Live and let live, do unto others as you would have done unto you, Love Jesus and your bretherin, and take pity on those without.
7. Look up our past presidents, nothing has changed here. Some of the Dems have been even more cowboy than Bush.
8. Media and poor parenting. (also could be the fluoride in the water.) do you see the s**t they put on American TV these days i don't even have to list shows there are so many, you can all think of an example in less than a second. Also we aren't as stupid as our media portrays us. Every country has a few gray crayons in the box.
In all i think we arent as bad as we seem, we just need to fix a few things and get our budget balanced. We do need to do something about our media.
no but we owe china trillions of dollars, so we are shipping jobs over seas to china to pay off this so called "debt" to them XDQuote:
Originally Posted by goodz
and also, and also, and also, china pratically owns USA <3 (well not really, but we have huge debt with them... so they may as well) I think only thing stopping them from invading us is the fact we are shipping our jobs to their country but i could be wrong :o
just my opinion. Not stating a fact or anything just my thoughts about it
Keep in mind China doesn't own it all we barrow from other nations. China just owns the largest amount, look it up. Plus did you know we get most of our crude oil from Canada and Mexico? Look it up.
Wow this was well said spyder! I agree with everything you said here.Quote:
Originally Posted by spyder882001
Another thing on trailers. Many apartments now want 2 months rent in advance just to move in. In NJ here that can be 1600+ dollars for a halfway decent 1 bedroom apartment. You can often find someone that would take a down payment on a trailer for that amount and you own the thing in the long run, instead of just handing over all that money to a landlord (like I do)
same post as European thread applies to US.
countries need to take back their banking from the IMF / WB organizations and flush them from their ranks.
They are the true enemies to freedom.
Whoever thought it was a good idea to allow a for profit institution to print your own currency then loan it to you?.. collect interest, demand payment in real assets?
mobilize the military, sieze their assets, and charge them for their crimes against humanity.
U wanna see mess up country...go search Liberia documentry on youtube..that is what i call mess up
80% unemployment
Civil war
Rapes, prostitution everywhere
Canibalism