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05-11-2015, 06:33
handofthrawn

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ed

Khrono, I am not griping, I am learning. I never said people should be "down with us" waving them. If they want to retal, that's fine. Just have the balls to do it when we are not engaged with another kingdom like Warlords and Hipmunks has done. Most people we wave either send us a CF and say no thanks to war, or they attack us back and we go to war. Like I said, it seems everyone this age wants to negotiate things. (Dude, you really should read the posts better, you are awesome at misinterpretation)

handofthrawn just the fact that you "advised" warlords to attack into our war and the fact that you find so much satisfaction in "starting trouble" shows what kind of guy you are. I can see why you and the Monarch of Warlords are such close friends. You say our actions will come back to bite us, and I say their actions came back to bite them. Why is it ok for them to seek revenge and not us? They could have settled this by warring us but they chose not to. Now, we are in war with someone else. Have a nice day!

Guy I know isn't there monarch and he claims he can't remember them ever attacking you. Hence why I wanted a back story and yeah I advised them to hit into your war. Who does a random massacre wave and accepts a cf. Then cancels it and waves again. So yeah hitting into your war seems appropriate.
05-11-2015, 06:39
Legality

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Originally Posted by khronosschoty

Concerns I think worth mentioning: you think its hard to war now? making a mechanic that enforces agreed wars may discourage some from entering into an agreed war. Also worth noting is I can well imagine many kingdoms would then change over to a agree, to make an agreed war situation and still back out.

Things maybe could be improved some but I think you are looking at this the wrong way.

I think enforcing agreed wars will save a lot of time and I would LOVE that type of clarity.
05-11-2015, 06:43
khronosschoty

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Originally Posted by Legality

I think enforcing agreed wars will save a lot of time and I would LOVE that type of clarity.

I'm convinced you are not looking at this properly.
05-11-2015, 06:43
Uncle Ed

See Khrono, you taught me something else. I had no idea there was a pump mode. I thought that was called end of war cease fire or fortified. We usually only wave a kingdom in Normal.

Last age or age before we were much smaller than Warlords. They sent in a wave of Learn attacks and we send CF. Before they accepted it, they waved us again. Then about a week later we were in hostile with someone when they broke the CF and waved us again. Now when I say we were in hostile, it means we were being waved by someone else. You keep saying we attacked into their hostile, but I keep telling you that they were not being waved by anyone so how could they be hostile? Maybe ur friend should stop lying to you, or you should just mind ur own business. whatcha think?
05-11-2015, 06:58
Persain

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Originally Posted by 2Utopian

Whoa whoa whoa, that sounds intense, 24 hours of predetermined hostile??? Some srs button play right there!

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Originally Posted by Legality

Yeah...doing anything more than that and you often risk losing out on actually going to war :(.

to be fair it was a pretty well fought hostile and we got our offense crushed green very much took it from semi 1 sided to very even. Idea was hostile starts on xyz button to be given and other side will push within 24 hours. Gave enough time to get both kds going since both had been out of war for a while and there didnt need to be some massive 4-5-6 day hostile just enough time to really get everyone active and preped. To be fair to would war green again and a declare date was hardly needed more of a "yea we''ll push it" kinda thing since our kds had never wared.
05-11-2015, 07:00
handofthrawn

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ed

See Khrono, you taught me something else. I had no idea there was a pump mode. I thought that was called end of war cease fire or fortified. We usually only wave a kingdom in Normal.

Last age or age before we were much smaller than Warlords. They sent in a wave of Learn attacks and we send CF. Before they accepted it, they waved us again. Then about a week later we were in hostile with someone when they broke the CF and waved us again. Now when I say we were in hostile, it means we were being waved by someone else. You keep saying we attacked into their hostile, but I keep telling you that they were not being waved by anyone so how could they be hostile? Maybe ur friend should stop lying to you, or you should just mind ur own business. whatcha think?

Look back story, but doesn't sound like there style. But everyone loves science and yeah I will ask him. But doubt he will remember a random learn wave.
05-11-2015, 07:08
Legality

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Originally Posted by khronosschoty

I'm convinced you are not looking at this properly.

I want to establish clarity. You, on the other hand, are arguing to allow a KD to back out of an already agreed upon war. Why is that? Once the leader of Kingdom A agrees to warring Kingdom B, they should be held to that agreement, no? Or are you saying "screw verbal contract, I want anarchy"? What ARE you saying Khrono? Because you've been saying a lot of nothing. You've told me all the typical ways of reacting to a KD that backs out to an agreed war, but you always skip over the fact that the war was agreed upon in the first place.

You my friend are not looking at this properly.
05-11-2015, 07:09
khronosschoty

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ed

See Khrono, you taught me something else. I had no idea there was a pump mode. I thought that was called end of war cease fire or fortified. We usually only wave a kingdom in Normal.

Last age or age before we were much smaller than Warlords. They sent in a wave of Learn attacks and we send CF. Before they accepted it, they waved us again. Then about a week later we were in hostile with someone when they broke the CF and waved us again. Now when I say we were in hostile, it means we were being waved by someone else. You keep saying we attacked into their hostile, but I keep telling you that they were not being waved by anyone so how could they be hostile? Maybe ur friend should stop lying to you, or you should just mind ur own business. whatcha think?

I'm not sure what your talking about here. If you do not want your business public do not post it public. As far as a friend of mine lying to me, who would that be?
05-11-2015, 07:12
khronosschoty

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Originally Posted by Legality

I want to establish clarity. You, on the other hand, are arguing to allow a KD to back out of an already agreed upon war. Why is that? Once the leader of Kingdom A agrees to warring Kingdom B, they should be held to that agreement, no? Or are you saying "screw verbal contract, I want anarchy"? What ARE you saying Khrono? Because you've been saying a lot of nothing. You've told me all the typical ways of reacting to a KD that backs out to an agreed war, but you always skip over the fact that the war was agreed upon in the first place.

You my friend are not looking at this properly.

NO, I think YOU must enforce the agreed war, not the game. The game should give you tools and empower you to enforce the agreed war, but at the end of the day the game should not push the button. If you cannot come up with a way to enforce the agreed war, it wont happen.
05-11-2015, 07:20
Legality

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Originally Posted by khronosschoty

NO, I think YOU must enforce the agreed war, not the game. The game should give you tools and empower you to enforce the agreed war, but at the end of the day the game should not push the button. If you cannot come up with a way to enforce the agreed war, it wont happen.

Grrrr, one can only enforce so much in a GAME. Unless i hackz, but I don't :(. And I really have tried all the ways you've listed so far except for that one I mentioned earlier between giraffes and spartans. And rarely do they work. So...why keep it the way it is?
05-11-2015, 07:25
Uncle Ed

sorry khrono the second part was not for you, it was for handofthrawn
05-11-2015, 07:27
khronosschoty

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Originally Posted by Legality

Grrrr, one can only enforce so much in a GAME. Unless i hackz, but I don't :(. And I really have tried all the ways you've listed so far except for that one I mentioned earlier between giraffes and spartans. And rarely do they work. So...why keep it the way it is?

Improve your skills or accept that you are stuck where you are. IF you were speaking about diff aspects of the mechanics you feel hinder you in forcing a kingdom to honor their agreed war I'd be open to hear it; if however your suggestion is to just make it go to auto war, I'm against that.
05-11-2015, 07:37
Legality

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Originally Posted by khronosschoty

Improve your skills or accept that you are stuck where you are. IF you were speaking about diff aspects of the mechanics you feel hinder you in forcing a kingdom to honor their agreed war I'd be open to hear it; if however your suggestion is to just make it go to auto war, I'm against that.

Answer this... Are you suggesting that you have always found a way to ensure a KD doesn't back out? If so...tell me how and then I'll shut up. If not, then you are saying you are fine with the status quo.

And please don't tell me I need to do something tactically stupid to make us look like we'll lose a war just to give them incentive to stick to the agreed war.
05-11-2015, 07:50
khronosschoty

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Originally Posted by Legality

Answer this... Are you suggesting that you have always found a way to ensure a KD doesn't back out? If so...tell me how and then I'll shut up. If not, then you are saying you are fine with the status quo.

And please don't tell me I need to do something tactically stupid to make us look like we'll lose a war just to give them incentive to stick to the agreed war.

I have had very few kingdoms back out, very, very few. No, I am not able to tell you how to diplomacy beyond the basics, that is something you have to figure out on your own. Having the game auto enforce deals is not the solution. Finding ways to enforce deals, being charitable to friends, and to enemies when its advantageous (and some times even when its not) are all essential parts of the game; and if you create some kind of auto war to enforce deals it will wreck that.

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Originally Posted by Uncle Ed

sorry khrono the second part was not for you, it was for handofthrawn

No worries m8.
05-11-2015, 11:51
p0ngkol

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Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace

how about trying to war people bigger and badder than you? so much ghetto bashing. so much land dropping. war tier is so full of fake.

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Originally Posted by Chrystal Palace

or you could just try to war someone bigger and not a sure win?

didnt you once gave a crown when you warred a kd bigger and badder than you? or im just mistaken.
and yea that (Average Opponent Relative Size 89%) seems wrong, thats supposed to be greater than 100% !!!

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