I wonder if AMA will get the strippers treatment, or the PewPew treatment.
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I wonder if AMA will get the strippers treatment, or the PewPew treatment.
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Originally Posted by Uhm hoi
That sums it up but you're making it much to simple for the CR savants to grasp..
I was never a fan of ama, many are not.. but I am willing to admit where I was wrong they are clearly the best whoring and war kd on the server. CR on the other hand has run weak provs most of the age and have strayed from zauper ethics and have lost much respect from the Utopian community..
Now there is chatter about GB from monkeyman and other butt hurt who for whatever reason wont admit they are just not as good as ama..
Not calling for GB here.. However I'm all for a server war. If CR, rage or monkeyman wants to orchestrate a GB on a kd they tried to antagonize and taunt as they have with ama and a good portion of the server. I give your garbage Notice I will be hitting into CR.. To all you ghettos (anyone under top 3) who have been pushed around by CR this age don't let your luv for zauper conflict your judgement. CR is not zauper anymore. CR is taken over by disrespectful rogue **** players who treated you all age with much disrespect.. Remember that truth when you decide who to hit...
I believe it was Elit who last age said that you don't conduct diplomacy on forums. So how can it be a notice?
I'm truly amazed at the way that you're trying to spin this as your kingdom being a victim. To review:Quote:
Originally Posted by Cello
1. You hit us into multiple hostiles
2. We hit you back into a hostile
3. You hit us into postwar after promising not to hit us into postwar
Your kingdom is not in any way a victim. You treated us with no respect and tried to play the victim when it turned out we were not the pushovers you thought we were. We broke no deals with you and we, even last age, never did anything beyond what was done to us. Your cows were razed because you repeatedly abused our kingdom, refused to apologize for your behavior, attempted to position yourselves as the victims and, most importantly, made absolutely no attempts to either reconcile or put a ceasefire in place this age. We caught you with your pants down and punished you for it.
The astounding part of all this is that we're actually a really reasonable kingdom. All we've ever asked is to be treated with respect and played with fairly. We had a kingdom dealbreak us this age. We talked to them. They apologized. We resolved the issue. AMA is the only kingdom that refuses to acknowledge that they played unfairly, that they did things they would not want done to them and that they were, somehow, the victim in all this.
I genuinely couldn't care less what dealbreaks you do with other kingdoms or what other asshole behavior your kingdom would like to display, but I will not tolerate using my kingdom's settling scores with you as an excuse. We were the victims of your asshole behavior - deal with it.
Also, to be clear - we confirmed as a kingdom that, given your stance on this issue, we will be coming after you every age until you apologize, recognize that your kingdom was wrong and make a meaningful commitment to fair play with us in the future. Barring such a public statement, you can expect this again next age.
I respect Topsy and somewhat Zauper but I don't give much for either KD, AMA ive seen do some dubious crap over the last few ages, but same can be said about CR this current age. - I don't want to throw **** around as its already a big mess. Instead i would just say gl to both KDs hope you sort it on the battlefield.
And scenario i can see right now is Pyro running with the crown, if AMA gets GB'd by other KDs, and to be fair Pyro would deserve it in their first age of actually going for it, even tho they have made a few mistakes this age, they have fought hard and they are where they are cause they have combined warring and whoring without too many "hickups" mistakes for a first age. - And yes we warred them early and some lame crap went on there but ive come to believe it was a misunderstanding that led to it, and cJ and Nesta don't seem to be too bad of a "couple :P" - Especially with Drixx being around and keeping some proper ethics which im sure pyro has learned from too.
Cello, this was unacceptable. The post was ridiculous. This has been the same garbage that they've been spewing for the past "20 rounds now": AMA has been the victim due to something Absalom did to them and think they can do whatever they want due to something that happened many rounds ago. We've noticed several kingdoms this round. They always said "but we want to war this kd in a week." Like we've been nice and let them war, but we also needed some acres. This is not a new concept. Taunting you in a forum is no excuse for kicking the monopoly board when you're about to lose. I've been taunted the **** and back on this forum and I don't dealbreak. Grow up Cello and be a man and admit that you had no chance of winning and thus had to go to this extreme measure. You've essentially ended utopia because "wahh they made fun of me in the forum!!!!"
You ****talk and threaten a KD with double hostile/hit into war that has fought 4 wars this age whilst you have done nothing all age. You make a thread week in advance to serve the notice and make your threats, threats which are real considering what you have done in the past to said KD. And now you whine because they hit you after all the taunts and threats?
I think it's cute that you think utopia has ended because you've been dealbroken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godly
This clearly is AMAs way of saying "We're not subjects, we're not slaves. We do not plow the field or toil in the mine for 8 weeks. We take what is ours." and now they are paying the iron price for CR's acres
New low of AMA
i agree with most of that except the part of them "essentially ending utopia"... the game will continue to be playedQuote:
Originally Posted by Godly
That forum multi seems rather mad though.
Please expand, due to some of us not knowing what happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Quite a simple story. PewPew had friends that continued to make deals for them even though they ****played just as bad as anyone else. They were allowed to remain in the top even though they were the biggest liability to the crown age after age. Strippers didn't have those friends. When they grew, they were found and destroyed.
Stripers was gbed from abs and they farmed abs, same we did when AMA was gbed from pew/stripers/simians 2-3 ages ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Pew Pew, they get every age cf from BB and after last age farm out to RBL now are ally so i dont think its "hurt to be pew pew" :)
This age after yr 0 there had 4 kds going for land chart. Pyro/RBL/Pew Pew (they are ally) and Havoc. For some strange reason all 4 kds cfed till yr 10 and this build huge dis-balance in server. Its result AMA was in chain war from pew/rbl and effective blocked from alliance from over half age for not explore. Main problem is this was our age off and only reason we grow is ppl forced us and refuse to gave us CF. We made our CF with zauper last age and main propose was to keep both kds good relation. AMA is not interfere last 3 ages in havoc/bb 1vs1 run and BB is not interfere in AMA/Pew Pew. Its look fair to me.
So AMA/PB had really hard age war kds with cows/size advantage and Havoc spend all age bash small kds and vulture kds. Its effective tactic, but if Pew Pew have won his war vs AMA its will resulted Pyro/RBL knock for free acres from AMA too and after it alliance will farmed Simians. Complete isolate Havoc from any source for gain land and yr 10 having 3 ally kds bigger from Havoc. I told zauper many times they did terrible bad age with this long cfs and basically they got chance for win age only because AMA won his wars and its gave chance Simians to vulture Pew Pew and Havoc used it for make another good deal for his kd. I dont have problem with this, but after our war with RBL we extended our CF with Pyro for 2 weeks so they can have his war with simians+ time for prepare to war us. If we had any plans for dodge Havoc was easy to set CF expire 24h before this with Havoc. I just dont need this kind trick when we was in very good relation with zauper last 3 ages. I gone on tournaments and told cello to extend cf with Havoc and answer from Zauper was he will extend it just need to look over details and wanted to talk pyro. After 3-4 days i asked cello what is our new deal with Havoc and answer was there is no new deal. Its clear stall and i had chat with zauper 2-3 ages ago this kind diplo is not acceptable and i dont like it. So i pmed him and asked what its going and for my suprise he told his kd take over him and don't want to extend us. Its hapend around same time when Remote start raze us, and same time Simians donate 17?k land for free to Havoc. All this really pissed me off. WTF is this kd take over Zauper? Next day Munk decide to make this brave post in forum for abuse our deal and say we cant war pyro. This is not enough but Godly posted how we farmed pew pew and rage and he wont allow more it! All this act and talk are extremly rude and its offensive not only to my kd but to pew pew/RBL too. If Havoc was this good and brave why you Cfed them for 10 weeks and didn't go war them how we did? You think its easy to war kd with cows and size advantage and win? I can tell you its NOT EASY and both Pew Pew and RBL is decent kingdoms and im not acept this crap talk for my wars with them. When is last time when Havoc won close war?
So after kd take over Zauper its become clear we have same Havoc from 3-4 ages ago. Both co-monarch Nick_me and Maximause play there and for bonus we have more ego rude people like Godly. They made it clear in forum for few days we wont get war with pyro for free. This was your fatal mistake. After it our kd had only 1 goal= make sure Havoc wont win age. I made vote pool in kd and posted several options for act. So far i preferred other solution not this but ppl in kd told me i need to stop being so "nice and honorable" when every age we get **** play and no one care about it. So they decide we will wave Havoc and we did. I really don't care if we will win or not age, but if we win i can live with it too :)