it's what vir said their name was...Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
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it's what vir said their name was...Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
all this pointing fingers at bart and not one finds it interesting that Protector suggest a cap for 42?Quote:
Originally Posted by protector
And under the premise of keeping it more fair for spartans?
I'm still upset the kd isn't going with my suggestion of Chris BrownQuote:
Originally Posted by Goodwitch
Im starting to think Goodwitch is trying to cause more drama then there already is ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodwitch
Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy:Quote:
Originally Posted by Palem
Lunkwill: Do you...
Deep Thought: Have an answer for you? Yes. But you're not going to like it.
Fook: Please tell us. We must know!
Deep Thought: Okay. The answer to the ultimate question of life, the universe, and everything is...
[wild cheers from audience, then silence]
Deep Thought: 42.
For on topic content, the earth gets razed at the beginning.
sure thing...I am sure I made prot make that statement..while you are at it why don't you pin jester's db on me too?Quote:
Originally Posted by Loons
but seriously..you can't crucify everyone that asks uncomfortable questions. sure it's easier to point your finger in one direction and stick to your guns, but very rarely does this get you to the truth. Unless of course you aren't interested in the truth in the first place?
oh darn,another one of those questions slipped out, sorry, not sorry
In a land of adults with the ego and emotional intelligence of a 8 yrd old... you expect more than this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodwitch
They don't want a fair war it seems. Last age they made use of my goodwill to get back into the race after WSK kicked their asses in war. Then they went forth and shamed that trust by noticing me to dodge Emeriti. We were in an impossible situation, the way Pandas seem to like it. I'm glad Emeriti did the right thing then and at least made it more or less equal. It was only through our individual skill and war strategy that we turned that war into a farm-fest. Now Pandas again want to hold all the cards and will really say anything to get people to act against us, the only KD this age that hasn't had fortunate wars to grab 20-30K land in and yet is still up there competing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodwitch
maybe I was not clear, I don't really think 42 is at fault here at all. I think they are the victim...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bart of Sparta
I may be wrong but my gut tells me they have the wrong guy THIS TIME.
We are 42, not pandas. Pandas is a different KD in war-tiers with its original members mostly.
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#42
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Originally Posted by Anri
Fixed that for you.
Not entirely sure how 1 Simians member playing core in 42 would make us Simians.Quote:
Originally Posted by Osaze
Obvious things are obvious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodwitch
BB is goin about their bussines, meanwhile stage is set for puppeteer to step in front of the curtain and take his applause.
I dont think so. Flogger is buys playing puzzles. You shouldn't fly so high!Quote:
Originally Posted by citadela01
the thing is I never said it was BB...I actually thought it was someone else. But y'all are making it really hard when every time something is said you are so quick to point the finger at someone else.
Where there is Anri, there is Simians. You have to understand the symbol you made of yourself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Anri
I find it a bit weird to point fingers and use assumptions as facts, if Bart is truly the puppet master where is the proof?
I agree it looks dodgy as hell, from what i can read but once again people jump to their own conclusions without proof or at least proof posted, would be good to see some of it?
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Originally Posted by Aranfein
60 pages and none have been given, it's just assumptions.
Isn't that what you have been doing all your life mirana ? Pointing everything bad going on to protector because of some old petty grudge several years ago. And everything CR says is absolute truth to you. to quote you from another thread, even a 'speculation' is to be taken as a truth. Zauper could very well say that Earth is flat and I bet you'll believe it and possibly even give up your kids to defend the claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodwitch
This is the level of crusade you are on, and there is little salvation from there, so why not let us talk facts instead of flinging **** sandwiches and hoping it lands somewhere?
Let me try this to see if you get why a cap was suggested, answer these;
1) Do you know (or remotely able to estimate) what is the current explore pool on 42/Notpandas right now ?
2) Is it wrong to to want to root for a better circumstance/"even ground" which Sparta and 42/Notpanda will meet ? (after dealing with a 10day db conflict)
3) Do you know the CF expiration dates between the top5 kingdom and its implications ?
4) Do you understand why Bart felt it is justified that Sparta NEEDS to farm 42/Notpanda to keep the race going ?
5) Do you understand the effect of Sparta (likely) farming 42/Notpands will mean in the short term for the rest (positioning wise) ?
I am guessing the answering is probably "no" or perhaps some very misguided understanding just as you had about how big kingdoms grow to their size; as demonstrated in http://forums.utopia-game.com/showth...7#post15393977
How about you explain out loud for everyone here how do you think whoring is accomplished and explain "whore caps" (have you even heard of this term?) and its calculations for everyone to proof you're at least qualified to be flinging accusations of ill-will. (after you are done asking around for the first time in 10+ years, then look at Sparta's kingdom page, then look at 42/Notpanda kingdom page, and rethink the questions I listed above. And just sit there and think everything through before you attempt to make any malignant comment on this subject again.
I think it's important to drink this in:Quote:
Originally Posted by pierniczek
this is not about what's fair. This isn't based in what can be proven.
My feelings are neutral, even if I felt Jesters actions were for some allied kingdoms best interest. The thing is, there's no motive for the establishment top kingdoms to look elsewhere.
Do you know why?
Because even if it was one of them, it's not worth the detective work to find out.
It's not like these guys all get along, but they know the field. When remote1 razed into AMA it was ok with a little compensation. When remote1 razed into BB it was strike two and Emeriti payed for it in a funny little alliance war.
Sparta is a convenient acre dispenser wether they're guilty or not.
Jesters must understand what Rusty had to understand. You are good, but the powers that be will exercise their power. Your apology had best been sincere or this is going to hurt. You can't straddle the fence wrapped in razor tape.
pwned..Quote:
Originally Posted by astron
People know very well that they cannot use inductive reasoning as evidence for actions, which is why there aren't any.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aranfein
You shouldn't pile on.Quote:
Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN
@ astron.
And astron should edit his comments referring to her children. It's classless. Intellect hasn't yielded the patience only wisdom can.
Be kind and rewind ;-) your comments. It'll earn you class points back.
I'm not against you, just be cool like Fonzy. Thank you.
Strat0castle= the voice of reason.
first astron should learn to read :) that would be a good start. maybe not taking statements out of context would be the next.
I'll say it again just because you missed it... I wasn't pointing at BB at all. Maybe that was my mistake because clearly I hit a nerve or something.
p.s. I totally stand by my opinion that Zauper is the most fair player in the top. Disagree with me if you want but I think you'll be hard pressed to find too many that won't agree with me.
it's okay...class isn't his thingQuote:
Originally Posted by StratOcastle
not like i approved of his comments, it was definitely a fun read though, lol..Quote:
Originally Posted by StratOcastle
It is sincere since we came to a deal just now between all of the Kingdoms involved.Quote:
Originally Posted by StratOcastle
Yea class just isn't my thing with you just as intellect and reasoning isn't yours when dealing with anyone other than Zauper. It's a pity you chose the path of crusade rather than friendship as very clearly seen on your last 210 post history even after I tried to make peace with you several times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodwitch
I'll ask again just because you missed it... I still haven't got a response from you on my very direct questions. How about answering some of those uncomfortable questions yourself? Oh right, oops, I guess one just slipped out. Sorry, not sorry.
Pointing out your blatant biasness is to bring in the question on "what is your agenda behind the attacks for the last several years ?" And, strawman argument. But sure, I'll try it your way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodwitch
I am sure I'll be hard pressed to find too many that actually agree with you on most of the things you say / accusations you put-fourth. Does this mean anything ?
I thought you had my back !! Feyrplay buddies right ? :'(Quote:
Originally Posted by LoRD_SaMPuaN
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-YwjORDnEQ8...h-a-pigeon.jpg
Not trying to imply anything, just like Goodwitch hasn't tried to imply anything for the last month or two.
I am not going to teach you about whoring tactics. If you have questions ask Protector. We may have our differences but I know he knows how.Quote:
Originally Posted by astron
on the subject of this thread....whodunnit?
The conspiracies are a lot more fun than the truth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Goodwitch
And they can be bent at will to fit in the made up plot...Quote:
Originally Posted by Culex
Matija made me laugh so hard
What proof are needed? We got no proof, all we got are logs with marve saying they had to db us because we were to big and that we would notice sparta, when i asked how he knew we would notice sparta he said it was because our cf was coming up.. When i asked him how he knew that he replied "Dude we are allies".
He also said "but sparta ofc have nothing to do with this".. The only thing that would be a 100% proof is someone saying "yes we did this because of xx told us to" and i doubt that will show up, the timeline of events combined with jesters claiming that they are allied with sparta is what made people think there might be something more to this then just one random kd thinking another random kd is to big and there for a db need to happen to save bart from having to fight in a bad position.
The biggest issue is about being tired as fk from such a long conflict, and then there is ofc other problems which comes from warring so long and getting vultured. If we just had 3-5 days extra it would help to recharge.. All established "top" kds understod and respect the situation.
It dont really matter who the plotter is or not, but its pretty obvious who try to gain on the situation and who dont.
Edit: then its ofc all those posts that were in the warforum.. Dont know if that came from LS or not though..
Jank was the only LS posting in the War Forums and marve wasn't LS.Quote:
Originally Posted by vir
This is essentially Elits point about alliances: that in a true alliance noone has to be told to do something, they know what triggers what action. I do the same at a province to kingdom level. Since I don't use external chat I instinctively react to the situation.
Apart from these assumption is the fact that there was a db.
The sooner nonpandas and everybody else realize and acknowledges just what level of toxic and ****play bart is the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by vir
Hes pulling this crap every single age for a while now, only difference is his ambitions grew and so did chart positioned of the shiplayed kd's.
Admited cheating, farmouts via multies, dealbreaks left and right.
Even now he plays in one kd, makes decisions for second (sparta) and what pretty much everybody realizes manipulates 3rd (jesters) to do his bidding.
As long as everyone just giggles at misfortune of their competitors and tries to profit from it ... which seems to be recurring theme ... he will keep it up.
Its remarkable other kd's are willing to let is slide
And all of my comments were clean and polite as I don't insult people even when they insult me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Culex