On that we agree 100%. I think it was Stephen Hawking who 1st said that mans greatest enemy is asteroids.
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On that we agree 100%. I think it was Stephen Hawking who 1st said that mans greatest enemy is asteroids.
Didn't US "colonize" the moon? Maybe you can start there? =P
There is actually human faeces on the moon.
Great start...
Humans are great like that. Have you heard about the Monolith on Phobos. Buzz Aldrin is convinced.
black muslim president...
Barack Obama is nothing more than Bush the 2nd. I suggest you read the record instead of watching the divisional news propaganda machine. If people could think for a moment they would realize that these divisions between us are imaginary. We all want the same things, peace, stability, freedom, the 2 party system exists to deny us these things by pitting us against ourselves while passing the laws that take away our Peace, Stability, Freedom quietly behind the curton.
Look up Harold White, he's working on proving a theory of a modified ward drive that will make space travel signifcantly faster. It pretty awesome stuff.Quote:
We need to get out there, get a colony on the Moon or Mars, travel to other solar systems. It may seem impossible right now, but we need small steps. Our world today is just as unimaginable for people 200 years ago as colonising other solar systems is to us today. But it WILL happen. And sooner rather than later. :)
His work is groundbreaking and if he's able to accomplish his goal it will change everything.Quote:
Originally Posted by HeKan
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This is why Sweden rules
I love it here. I think were doing great. The biggest problem is spoiled whiners that think they need more! Who said there was no Social Security? Social Security just got a 5% INCREASE!Quote:
Originally Posted by stoffi
40 million poor are better off then most of the rest of the world.
Trailer Trash? WTF? this country was forged from the back of Conestoga wagons.
Middle Class isn't withering away. The media is just redefining what the "Middle Class" is. Both sides of the aisle is now defining "median income" as above $400,000 annually. This is up from the previous $250,000. That makes the middle class smaller.
Religious Fanatics taking over? Religious fanatics founded this country.
Mad cowboy presidents? Like George Washington?
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Originally Posted by stoffi
24 pages is too much to read.. so I'll just reply to the first post..
The US is in better shape than a lot of the more socialist countries. All you have to do is look at all of the European countries that are having massive financing issues right now and then you see these same individuals look at the US and then judge. (I'm not saying you are one of these individuals, only using it as an example to set the scene for what I am writing) The US also is probably the most internationally publicized country in the world. They are in everything, and everyone in the world feels the need to watch them. It is somewhat understandable, everyone's economy is more or less linked, and the US has been a major leader in world politics for years.
With that said, the US is also one of the more ignorant in the world. I'm not saying the people are stupid, there are stupid people EVERYWHERE.. I've traveled the world enough to know that the actual level of "intelligence" is pretty similar no matter where you go. However, ignorance (not to be confused with stupidity) has been bred in the US for a few generations now, mostly in the more religious regions. In a country that practically panders to the religious groups whilst trying to say they keep them separate, it makes it very easy for these groups to gain influence, most notably Christians. This is where we begin to get into the issue.
The mindset of many American Christians is disturbing to say the least. I will use an example I saw recently... A "young earth" christian called into an Athiest TV show (Why they felt the need to force his beliefs upon each other, I do not know) and attempted to argue his view on the world. (to summarize what young earth Christians believe, based on the bible, the earth is about 6,000 years old. If you ask a geologist, it's closer to 4.5 billion years) I won't go into details on what they argued about, it's not important, but the basic gist of it was, the young earth christian would believe what he believes despite any proof you can provide, because it's what the bible says.
Now I don't care what people believe. If you want to believe the earth was created by space mice and they will return one day to eat all of our cheese and enslave our fish, then knock yourself out. Why do people care so much about what other people believe? Why do they feel compelled to FORCE their beliefs upon others? This dedication to their religion is a good example of what is wrong with the US today. If you refuse to believe one thing because it disagrees with your religious following, what else will you do?
Most Americans don't believe in evolution. It is to be noted that the vast majority of the scientific community believes in evolution.
One of the biggest factors in today's politics is religion. Why does this matter so much? Can a person not have strong morals without following a religion? What about party loyalty? A study was done, and found that many people's views on specific issues, clashed with the views of the party they identified themselves with.
If you want to fix the US, you need to do a few things.
1. Remove religion and all the special treatement it gets from the government entirely. No more tax free, no more special consideration. They can file as a non-profit organization like everyone else.
2. Get rid of the party system. It is ridiclous and only hurt's their progress as a nation.
3. Remove the bias from the news, and start holding them accountable for what they report and what they don't.
4. Ban lobbyists from profitable organizations (like businesses) They often hold back progress for the sake of their own bottom line. It hurts their country in the long run. You evolve or you die, let them learn this for themselves.
Before those things are done, the country will continue to struggle. They don't need to be socialized to be successful. They do need to get rid of these silly distractions so they can focus on what's important, like fixing their education system.
Anyways, that is my 2 cents (or 30 cents.. It's a fair bit)
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Originally Posted by Crazyguy
You do realize that the founding fathers were hardly religious by today's standards, right? Besides, time's change.. This should be the age of science and innovation, not ignorance and bullying.
The founding fathers were EXTREMELY religious by today's standards. Speaking of ignorance, the original post is not based on fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by LuckySports
Bullying? To disagree is to bully now? Nevermind that the original post was extremely disrespectful of America! If anything on this thread is bullying its this post which disparages my countrymen:
(BY STOFFI)
"I mean, no social security, no health coverage, 40 million poor, plenty more trailer trash, a middle class withering away, religious fanatics taking over, mad cowboy presidents and ignorance flourishing."
The founding fathers were religious, but this country was originally formed by Colonists who were so religiously fanatical that they left their country of origin, traveled for months with little food and water, and settled here to be able to practice their religion.
You can call it "bullying" that I picked apart the false, disparaging statements one by one and pointed out with fact they were nothing but slanderous attacks against my nationality, but it is not.
Ben Franklin:
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"And now I speak of thanking God, I desire with all Humility to acknowledge, that I owe the mention'd Happiness of my past Life to his kind Providence, which led me to the Means I us'd and gave them Success. "
George Washington:
"It is impossible to rightly govern the world without God and Bible."
and (one of my favorite) Also by Washington
“What students would learn in American schools above all is the religion of Jesus Christ.”
Wow if that were said today, it would be called fanatical.
Here is a list of more quotes from Washington:
http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/...ashington.html
Francis Scott Key:
“Nothing but Christianity will give you the victory. Until a man believes in his heart that Jesus Christ is his Lord and Master... his course through life will be neither safe nor pleasant. My only regret is that I was so long blinded by my pleasures, my vices and pursuits, and the examples of others that I was kept fr...om seeing, admiring, and adoring the marvelous light of the gospel.”
So your statement:
"You do realize that the founding fathers were hardly religious by today's standards, right? Besides, time's change.. This should be the age of science and innovation, not ignorance and bullying."
Is nothing more then a falsehood written to disparage my intellect which is by definition bullying, and ignorance.
You mention 2 out of the 7 key founding fathers. Francis Scott Key was not a founding father.
Apart from that, america was colonised by religious nutjobs and that still seems to be the case.