Another monkey that can't read for themselves?Quote:
Originally Posted by American Badass
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Another monkey that can't read for themselves?Quote:
Originally Posted by American Badass
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Originally Posted by American Badass
Could someone explain why Elit won't just CF Sanctuary and fight the kingdom who is at least actually in their range (although still 15% smaller in land)?
1) Havoc tells Elit they will be noticing as soon as Elit's post war is over as per the terms of their agreement.
2) Curiously, Elit still does not make any effort to CF Sanc even though Sanc previously expressed interest in a cf.
3) Havoc notices as soon Elit exits post war (as promised.
4) Sanc expects that Elit is going to wave them to escape Havoc since Elit didn't seem interested in a cf and then decides to pre-emptively rob Elit who has a cow on 0 thieves.
5) Elit has most of his kingdom online and waves Sanc immediately after getting notice from Havoc and receiving some thief ops from Sanc. He made no efforts to cf sanc and managed to pull off a pretty fast wave as soon as he got noticed and saw a few ops from Sanc.
6) Sanc makes some retals and Elit then explores a huge amount of land and enters fortified.
7) Sanc also enters fortified and stops hits.
8) Elit declares that he'll stay hostile with sanc all age or until the meters are maxed and there is a war and won't ever cf sanc unless he also gets a 1 week cf with havoc.
9) Havoc waves Elit after Sanc had not hit for at least 12h and had offered ingame cf.
It looks like it was Elit's plan all along to wave Sanc to buy themselves time to get their provinces explored up and dodge Havoc.
Why won't Elit just fight Havoc who told him in advance they would notice and then noticed? Why instead wave another kingdom out of declare range instead of just cf them? Is it really a 2v1 when only one kingdom is attacking Elit and the other is not hitting and instead offering cf? It seems a bit more like a vulture to me since I consider a 2 vs 1 to be when two kingdoms are fighting one kingdom together (not when one kingdom is sitting in fort not attacking and trying to cf.)
Again, why won't Elit just cf Sanc and fight the kingdom who noticed them? It's just dumb play to wave another kingdom and refuse to cf them in that situation. Elit -- Just CF Sanc and fight Havoc and whine about being vultured instead of creating a "2v1" even though only one kingdom is hitting you (Havoc).
Almost forgot to add:
-Pewpew noticed Sanc as well right after the war and also refused to give any considerations after Elit waved Sanc even though earlier when Pewpew was fat after their war, Absalom gave them a cf deal of their choosing without any hits when Pewpew threatened to farm out to Elit if any Absalom kingdom waved them.
-Pewpew now waved sanc. Since sanc recently got hits from both Elit and Pewpew and Elit refuses to cf Sanc when Sanc is trying to cf them, this is actually more of a real 2v1 situation than the one with havoc.
You have me convinced.
Elit and Pew Pew, you're 2v1 Sanctuary. Stop it.
And how do you explain Sanctuary robbing into us after Havoc broke the cf and waved us? :)
I don't know, but I know that if you accept ingame cf like they offer that would be impossible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Soul_Hunter
According to SN the latest hit between Sanct and MA was weedle(sanct) and kadabra(also sanct) trippling respectively doubling somone in MA. MA also did hits that same hc so no, this is exactly as much of a 2v1 as MA vs Sanct + Havoc is if not less so. And why the hell would Elit cf Sanct just because pewpew noticed Sanct when they interfered in his prep vs Havoc? There is plenty of reasons for Elit to be pissed off with Sanct, no reason for Sanct to have interfered with MA's fight vs Havoc.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Of course they are but none of that would have happened if Sanct hadn't decided to interfere in MA vs Havoc. Abs started 2v1 situation but I'm sure Elit is willing to expand it and this will no doubt escalate into a major ****storm.Quote:
Originally Posted by Syntico
And why would they do that without any sort of deal that prevents sanct from instantly canceling cf and starting all over again with 0 meter? According to MA sanct kept doing ops right up to and past the point where HAvoc waved so of course there is not going to be any deal without Sanct offering something of actual value to MA.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
Not going to read all your post at all. Sanctuary and Havoc clear double hostile us. Sanctuary start rob us for prevent us to prepare for havoc and after we wave they did only FG/FB for prevent us train at all. Now after all this lame action how i promised up: I'm going to double them any hostile every age. You gave me perfect reason for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by AquaSeaFoam
to ASF
Of course you don't know :). Everything can be summarized in the following thing - our biggest mistake was that we didnt secure cf with Sanc after war. I admitt that was a mistake. What i do not agree is the way you try to justify all actions after that with the simple argument "you didnt get cf". As if not getting cf makes double hostile justifiable. Anyway. Everything is already in motion. AMA vs Havoc, Pewpew vs Sanctuary. Seems like both kds f*cked up each other right before incoming conflicts. See if we both learn the lesson or pack excuses for next age, whatever happens I think mods can be satisfied with the forum activity :P
P.S. To say no attacks for 12 hours=no hostile, when attack time is 13 hours is pure joke :D. According to that logic if we send a full wave with +4 hour gain we are not hostile with you 5 hours before we come back :P. What if we wave a kd that has armies away for 13 hours? We stop being hostile 1 hour before then come back :D, nice...
Meh, I just wonder why is ASF running errands for Sanctuary? Are the incapable of fightiing their own battles?
If you didn't want to get Sanc's hand slapped by Elit's kd, they shouldn't have stuck their hand in Elit's cookie jar.
ASF is best diplomat of absalom. They only use him when they get into to much trouble. His pressence alone shows they screwed up
Whos up for abs bbq?
MA and pewpew seems to have started without you already :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Anri
ASF: You're joking, right?
Ooohhh.. I understand. Sanct, according to jdorje, is an offensive term. There is no 't' in Sanctuary. It's clearly Sanc. This is why Abs is so aggressive toward AMA. Clearly. :)