lol looks like vines has a fanboy. Or likely just a multi forum account.
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lol looks like vines has a fanboy. Or likely just a multi forum account.
Vines might actually have something to show if he ever realized that GN have thief bonus and dwarf has thief penalty.
By not realizing that Vines already prove how vines he is I guess.
Maybe he is waiting till hostile so he can NS??
If he is rogue mabye even properganda??
I see it he will lose unless it gets to hostile. Until then it is all loaded in DHarens favour.
NS in unfriendly (doubt they will ever get to hostile) is pretty weakQuote:
Originally Posted by otokonoko
and 1v1 NS wont do much either...
also, RTFG
i SERIOUSLY doubt they will get to warQuote:
Originally Posted by guide
and vines is gnome/art... so he cant even get prop...
This is not a t/m contest. This is a contest to see if gnome has what it takes to go toe to toe with a dwarf. So far I have been able to attack him with full army and he was unable to attack me when my army was out.
And the thing is I think someone else is helping him because I have 2raw tpa with 25%or more crime science. And yet he can do an op on me such a roit, please. What he is doing is failing one or two then he has a friend or kingmate do the real op.
Which is total bs.
Quote:
Originally Posted by vines
he has hit you... so, im not sure where this "cant break me with army out" is coming from
2raw tpa + 25% sci + gnome bonus... thats not much at all... ive seen elves with better numbers than that... playing as an attacker
and riot is easy to get through anyway
Now vines is exploring, obviously he wants to try to get back to a size where can attempt to pump up to a point where he can try to hit me and not get retaled. Then he sends me a message telling me to stop exploring (I diced 30 acres). Haha like I will just let him explore past me after I knocked him below 1k acres....
I just explored a few acres not the 100 or so that you did but you lost it all because you did attacks and have weak def at home. Ummm get your facts stright buddy I'm not exploring past and I don't need to. Exploring just a few acres helps with changing my build around that's it.
You are the that is trying to out grow me. The only reason I can say is so you don't have to fight me. Stop growing and lets finish this.
You are so funny, trying to act all badass here, but ingame just turtling and hiding. I know you have intel, you know my army is out, because I retaliated a hit on me, yet you still lack the courage to attack.
And the guy that just hit me got the same you did, **** gains and big fat retal. I am outgrowing you without even trying to.
Look, I tried of this. You stop fighting. Now if I would have stop fighting I would have been the loser, no ands if or buts about it and I would have accepted it as a lost. But I didn't back down. I kept fighting. You backed down because it was clear my province was and is the stronger attacker. Would you have backed down if you're province could smash my province? No you would keep attack and talking your mess but your dwarf province is a weaker attacker than my province, and it a toe to toe your province would lose.
Here is our provinces side by side.
The Province of RunAwayAgainVines (##:##)
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Server: Genesis #20
Utopian Date: March 21st, YR7
RL Date: May 28th, 2009 (20:00 GMT)
Origin: Unformatted (1st hand)
Ruler Name: Noble Lady DHaran the Warrior
Personality & Race: The Warrior, Dwarf
Land: 1,265 Acres
Money: 2,939gc (19,586gc daily income)
Food: 155,064 bushels
Runes: 30,934 runes
Population: 26,862 citizens (21.23 per Acre)
Peasants: 8,534 (98% Building Efficiency)
Trade Balance: 3,565gc
Military Eff. with Stance: 149.88% off. / 112.43% def.
Soldiers: 153 (68.2% estimated draft rate)
Warriors: 0
Axemen: 8,805 (49,499 defense)
Berserkers: 9,370 (98,309 offense / 42,140 defense)
War-Horses: 0
Prisoners: 0
Total Modified Offense: 98,538 (77.90 per Acre)
Practical (100% elites): 98,538 (77.90 per Acre)
Total Modified Defense: 91,811 (72.58 per Acre)
Practical (0% elites): 49,671 (39.27 per Acre)
HINT: To include thieves/mages estimation in report,
copy target's kingdom page before copying the CB.
Buildings Report of RunAwayAgainVines (##:##)
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Server: Genesis #20
Ruler Name: Noble Lady DHaran
Personality: The Warrior
Building Efficiency: 95.5%
Kingdom Stance: Normal
1. Farms: 44 (4.4%)
2. Banks: 185 (13.2%)
3. Training Grounds: 194 (18.9%)
4. Guard Stations: 168 (10.3%)
5. Hospitals: 157 (10.1%)
6. Guilds: 154 (10.6%)
7. Towers: 49 (6.3%)
Total Land: 951 Acres (100% built)
** Effects Summary (Available Buildings Only) **
1. Produce 3,677 bushels (4,596 with FL)
2. 4,417gc, +18.7% income
3. +23.26% offense bonus
4. -27.78% losses when attacked
5. 26.33% cure plague, -39.49% military losses
6. Training about 2.94 wizards per hour
7. Produce 702 runes per hour
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The Province of Dirt Patch (##:##)
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Server: Genesis #20
Utopian Date: March 21st, YR7 (15% in the day)
RL Date: May 28th, 2009 (20:39 GMT)
Ruler Name: Lord Dirtbag the Craftsman
Personality & Race: The Artisan, Gnome
Land: 1,072 Acres
Money: 130,867gc (26,434gc daily income)
Food: 286,526 bushels
Runes: 43,815 runes
Population: 38,056 citizens (35.50 per Acre)
Peasants: 11,518 (109% Building Efficiency)
Trade Balance: 925gc (0% tax rate)
ME+Stance (no spells): 155.55% off. / 135.63% def.
Soldiers: 1 (66.4% estimated draft rate)
Halflings: 0
Pikemen: 596 (4,042 defense)
Golems: 22,925 (178,294 offense / 124,373 defense)
War-Horses: 0
Prisoners: 0
Total Modified Offense: 178,296 (166.32 per Acre)
Practical (100% elites): 178,296 (166.32 per Acre)
Total Modified Defense: 132,321 (123.43 per Acre)
Practical (0% elites): 4,043 (3.77 per Acre)
Thieves: 1,741 (1.62 per Acre / 70% Stealth)
Wizards: 1,275 (1.19 per Acre / 64% Mana)
Crystal-Ball on your province will show:
Max. Possible Thieves/Wizards: 4,449 (4.15 / Acre)
Estimated Thieves Number: 1,780 (1.66 per Acre)
Estimated Wizards Number: 667 (0.62 per Acre)
** Networth Table: **
Total Networth: 190,261gc (177.48 per Acre)
Golems: 103,162gc (54%) - [4.5gc]
Land (90% built): 54,672gc (29%) - [15+40gc]
Peasants: 11,518gc (6%) - [1gc]
Thieves: 6,964gc (4%) - [4gc]
Science (estimated): 5,732gc (3%) - [1/92gc]
Wizards: 5,100gc (3%) - [4gc]
Pikemen: 2,980gc (2%) - [5gc]
Money: 131gc (0%) - [1/1000gc]
Soldiers: 2gc (0%) - [1.5gc]
Buildings: 1,025gc to build, 618gc to raze
Away bonus: 57,590gc (12h) / 172,770gc (20h)
Buildings Report of Dirt Patch (##:##)
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.96 Alpha 3]
Server: Genesis #20
Ruler Name: Lord Dirtbag
Personality: The Artisan
Race: Gnome
Building Efficiency: 109.4%
Kingdom Stance: Normal
1. Homes: 380 (35.4%)
2. Farms: 153 (14.3%)
3. Training Grounds: 206 (19.2%) + 3 in progress (+0.3%)
4. Forts: 211 (19.7%)
5. Guilds: 67 (6.3%) + 9 in progress (+0.8%)
6. Towers: 40 (3.7%) + 3 in progress (+0.3%)
Total Land: 1,072 Acres (98.6% built)
In Progress: 15 Acres (1.4%)
** Effects Summary (Available Buildings Only) **
1. +5,463 maximum population, +100% birth rate
2. Produce 18,307 bushels (22,884 with FL)
3. +25.47% offense bonus
4. +25.94% defense bonus
5. Training about 1.83 wizards per hour
6. Produce 821 runes per hour
** Effects Summary (Including Future Buildings) **
3. +25.76% offense bonus
5. Training about 2.08 wizards per hour
6. Produce 882 runes per hour
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He province net were is around 200knet wheres my province is around 190knet. He has more land yet my military is stronger. He has more land and he is using banks and yet my econ is much strong, at most he is making 1k a day and I am making +10k a day. And my province's BE is better than his province's BE and he's running a dwarf province.
My gnome province out does his dwarf province in every area. And I'm sure if one compears the two one will agree.
Except my dear that you are losing on the war acre count, which is the only thing that counts, as in all wars. Its not about who stops attacking. Its about who has more land gains from the war. Im a total newbie at Utopia and at least I know that.
Therefore, prove your mettle vines! Hit him! Gain more than that measely 61 acres! Why don't you? There's no point being 'able' to break him with his army at home when you DON'T actually go and break him with his army at home.Quote:
Originally Posted by vines
Just to recap:
vines has 61+44 acres from the war so far
Dharan has gained 121+90 acres from the war so far
Therefore: Dharan is 106 acres up and vines is naturally a 106 acres down (the second half of this statement is for vines benefit just incase he screws up the math again).
In the spirit of thorn, Go Vines Go!
You had several chances to hit me with my army out, and you didn't do it, knowing my retal would be better than yours. You are an 80% drafted turtled gnome with 40% homes, of course I can't break you moron. That doesn't mean you are stronger, since anytime you hit me, my retal will outgain you, because my strategy and build is better than yours.
By the way, I am making 20k gc/hr while drafting, so I don't know where you get this 1k an hour crap lol.
I have better gains, fewer losses, probably better science, better economy, and an all around better province, which is why I am 1200 acres from only retaliation acres and you had to explore to get back over 1k.
I retaled the hit on me yesterday and you knew it, but still lacked the courage to attack, because you are trying to pump up so you can hit and stay unbreakable, but you CAN'T DO IT.
I just conquested you, come get some *****. Man up!
the reason for that is because I didn't build up all my forts and all my tgs. Now if I would have done that he would have not been able to attack. Instead waited after he attacked me to province this point. The fact is I can still draft but I'm not going to do anything until I see him stop growing. To me it looks like he is trying to get out of the net worth range. I'm not even drafting. How can you say I'm pumping. You are just trying to make your self look good.
Military Intelligence on Dirt Patch (##:##)
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Server: Genesis #20
Ruler & Race: Lord Dirtbag, Gnome.
** Summary **
Non-Peasants: 71%
Efficiency (SoM): 158.7% off, 142.6% def, 107.8% raw
Net Offense at Home (from Utopia): 175,183
Net Defense at Home (from Utopia): 130,039
Modified Attack points (calculated): 175,183
Modified Defense points (calculated): 130,021
** Standing Army (At Home) **
Soldiers: 1 (2 offense / 1 defense)
Pikemen: 574 (4,093 defense)
Golems: 22,077 (175,181 offense / 125,927 defense)
Total Attack points: 175,183
Total Defense points: 130,021
Military Intelligence on Dirt Patch (##:##)
[http://www.utopiatemple.com Angel v1.96 Alpha 3]
Server: Genesis #20
Ruler & Race: Lord Dirtbag, Gnome.
** Summary **
Non-Peasants: 71%
Efficiency (SoM): 158.7% off, 142.6% def, 107.8% raw
Net Offense at Home (from Utopia): 175,183
Net Defense at Home (from Utopia): 130,039
Modified Attack points (calculated): 175,183
Modified Defense points (calculated): 130,021
** Standing Army (At Home) **
Soldiers: 1 (2 offense / 1 defense)
Pikemen: 574 (4,093 defense)
Golems: 22,077 (175,181 offense / 125,927 defense)
Total Attack points: 175,183
Total Defense points: 130,021
He attacked me but it was a conquest he was not is my range. He has to let of some building or something so he could be in conquest range. That proves my point you just bottom feed of me big deal any one can do that and you did it with a conquest.
Man get out of here. Try to say I was pump I wasn't even drafting.
See what I could have done was abush then conquest but I tried of this bs. It is clear that my province is the stronger attacker.
You are an idiot!!!! I am in perfect range of you moron, gains are NW based. You are truly a retard, LMFAO!
I can't believe you just learn hit me when I gave you a golden chance to hit me. You are such a failure.