omg omg omg panda what?!

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Originally Posted by Danzig

I dont agree with dealbreaks, but don't kid ourselves. People are interfering because Jesters is proving that they might have the better long term warring strat. Also there have been probably hundreds of doubles this age and this is the first i have seen of people calling for interference in a war.

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This CF was a complete Dealbreak, they had no intention of actually honoring the terms. An with some of the other DB's, other kds stepped in and assisted. Newnamed kingdom would win this war 1v1 as Jesters never stood a chance (sad considering they got to prep, and Newnamed was on 40% draft and 55% guilds when the Dealbreak happened), it's just the fact they are trying to stall us now and make us win by 50% NW. We tried very hard today to resolve this peacefully, but janK purposefully stalled negotiations.

It's a matter of wisdom.

People can get mad. I'm glad Anri and company have time to play and compete up top.

I don't recall Jesters being dishonorable in the past so I find it a bit 'off' . Maybe there's a change in leadership. Basically the deal never had to be made. That's the lesson from foolish aging players who don't use bots or attack unprovoked. See, what's sad is that guys like me can laugh at DBs because there's hardly any sense in making deals in war kingdoms.

What's important to understand is how much digital ink is spent on the language of diplomacy by players in the top. If players at the bottom loved diplo we'd never hear about it. Look at the big names both in game and in forum. They might not think they love diplo but they do. It's pro mind wrestling for them and the difference between right and really right is worth megatext walls. This is why Jesters is getting roughed up.

It's kind of funny to say this, and no harm intended, but if you guys had tried to weasle words and twist truths about the CF agreement you might've done better. I don't hate DBs, they simply amuse me. It's just a game. I hope you all keep playing despite the promised suffrage.

Off Topic but Topical: if there be kingdoms breaking up but retaining powerful cores that know how to play together...consider The Virtual Kingdom for age70. I'm not attempting to run the thing, I'm just a commissar. It's not a forever thing. My endeavor is to create a kingdom that modulates cores like Voltron. I'm not a Voltron fan, but you get it. Anyways, you can bring a core that wants to play through without the recruitment woes of full narrow-minded kingdoms for an age. Then go back to your own kingdom when they feel they want to come back full strength.

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Originally Posted by StratOcastle

I don't recall Jesters being dishonorable in the past so I find it a bit 'off' . Maybe there's a change in leadership.

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You do not know the same Jesters as me then Strat.

"We fully intend to destroy them ourselves, they have so far taken 7k of our acers and we intend to take that back.. after we have taken that back, and hopefully some more, people can do whatever they want, but for now we would prefer if people let us handle this ourselves."

...SURPRISE! PANDA called in their buddies CR to help them out.

It was clear that Jesters had turned the war, the nw gap was being reduced and it seems like they had enough ubers to finish the war off. Panda panicked and called in help to a) force a wd and b) to not lose face... losing to a ghetto!?!??!?!!.

CONGRATULATIONS JESTERS for the WAR WIN! Calling in friends in a war were u said 1vs1 is an instant lose in the face of the community. As if pandas couldnt stop others from gangbaning hahahahaha so much bs.

Its sad that this game has come to this.

Either way, Jesters, wow, nice comeback!!!

1 question though, if pandas were looking for a wd to avoid a 7 day war and lose crown... why would they call friends? now they will force jesters to war until they are brought down to 50%... seems like a mistake to me. only answer to the question is... panda knew they lost and needed help from buddies


ERMGD!

should i start razing pandas? maaaaaybe i will

I wish people would stop using the term community in cases like this. Don't get me wrong I do think Jesters db, they said they did. But nobody asked my kingdom or any other kingdom what their opinion is on this. The community has not decided anything...the top 3 or 4 or 5 kingdoms may have.

the community= all players

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

I wish people would stop using the term community in cases like this. Don't get me wrong I do think Jesters db, they said they did. But nobody asked my kingdom or any other kingdom what their opinion is on this. The community has not decided anything...the top 3 or 4 or 5 kingdoms may have.

the community= all players

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Occupy Utopia, don't let the one percent dictate you anymore.

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Originally Posted by Goodwitch

I wish people would stop using the term community in cases like this. Don't get me wrong I do think Jesters db, they said they did. But nobody asked my kingdom or any other kingdom what their opinion is on this. The community has not decided anything...the top 3 or 4 or 5 kingdoms may have.

the community= all players

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Originally Posted by CannaWhoopazz

You do not know the same Jesters as me then Strat.

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You may well be right, I just haven't seen the names I normally associated with Jesters in forum.

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Originally Posted by Danzig

I dont agree with dealbreaks, but don't kid ourselves. People are interfering because Jesters is proving that they might have the better long term warring strat. Also there have been probably hundreds of doubles this age and this is the first i have seen of people calling for interference in a war.

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A double hostile isn't remotely equivalent to a dealbreak.

Vir and I discussed the u and sleepy pandas cf and he was actual cool to diplo with. I see this as an improvement with him doing diplo.

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Originally Posted by Castille

"We fully intend to destroy them ourselves, they have so far taken 7k of our acers and we intend to take that back.. after we have taken that back, and hopefully some more, people can do whatever they want, but for now we would prefer if people let us handle this ourselves."

...SURPRISE! PANDA called in their buddies CR to help them out.

It was clear that Jesters had turned the war, the nw gap was being reduced and it seems like they had enough ubers to finish the war off. Panda panicked and called in help to a) force a wd and b) to not lose face... losing to a ghetto!?!??!?!!.

CONGRATULATIONS JESTERS for the WAR WIN! Calling in friends in a war were u said 1vs1 is an instant lose in the face of the community. As if pandas couldnt stop others from gangbaning hahahahaha so much bs.

Its sad that this game has come to this.

Either way, Jesters, wow, nice comeback!!!

1 question though, if pandas were looking for a wd to avoid a 7 day war and lose crown... why would they call friends? now they will force jesters to war until they are brought down to 50%... seems like a mistake to me. only answer to the question is... panda knew they lost and needed help from buddies


ERMGD!

should i start razing pandas? maaaaaybe i will

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What i said was that we needed to take back the land that was ours, which we did, and now you guys refuse to wd because you just want to ruin our age nothing else, you got no chance of winning this and our only chance to win this is by 50% nw which will take forever.. Thats why we asked for help, becuase we dont want our age to be over because of one ghetto thinking a dealbreak is a good way to start war. Also you guys went fort 3 days and then waved us, that you didnt win this instantly is a sign of how bad you are.. A kd that fully pumped engage a kd in guildpumpmode with a dealbreak and still cant win is nothing to be proud of.

I mean sure congrats, we cant get you down to 50% nw in a reasonable timeframe, we will be outside top10 before that happen so we are asking for help, maybe we should have don that right away idk. We lost 10k acers during the hostile and we didnt want our age to be over because of a dealbreak though..

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Originally Posted by sexual harassment panda

A double hostile isn't remotely equivalent to a dealbreak.

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I agree that there is a difference. But he is right that the only reason those guys are interfering is because it's Pandas or not pandas or whatever they wanna be called now.

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Originally Posted by Castille

Loool, didnt panda say they would 1vs1 them? now that the war is turning they are talking about gb...? LOOOOOL XDDD panda, how sad!!!! apparently panda only wants wars on their terms, threaten the rest to death to accept cfs nobody wants or else, and now threatening with gbs. go elite! whats up with the top tier community lately XD big fan of the ghettossss

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Game is all about gains. Jester decide they cant fight fair 1vs1 when CF deal expire so they choice to deal break and get better chances for gains/beat Panda. This way they gave legit right Panda do call friends but if Panda have done it from begin they wont be able to back his land so choice to fight 1vs1 was brave and very logical. Min time end Panda proved to be better KD and Jester loss big time, BUT because Jester had long term advantage result from deal break they choice to keep drag war. Panda already back his land so its only logical now to call friends for take Jester faster down. Both sides play logical but only Jester actions is not right. At lest they shold have WD min time and admit his mistake. Having his "fair" 1vs1 war.

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we didnt want our age to be over because of a dealbreak though..

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Your age wont be over :) you can still have fun. Maybe adjust your goals for the age.