Cats vs Legacy

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Originally Posted by fawk

Do you realize that Legacy most likely has 4 elves and 2 haflings that are UB?
This war is over for SPGC. They can delay surrender by a day or two, but they have no shot at winning here.

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wrong.

Ya, it seems like 2 faery from cats vs 4 elf from legacy.. Kinda outnumbered

Cats = 2x 12k acre faery with great econ and oor and untouched by legacy t/ms + 1 large halfer rogue

Legacy = 2 halfers and 2 elves. who have been completely unsuccesful in doing anything to the two faery from cats.

Legacy is still tanking emerald. it will fly away in 3 days and a sapphire will take it's place.
Cats have had no dragon for more than a day and Legacy just started a gold dragon a few hours ago

Faery is good. I pity the fool who underestimates Faery.
Legacy's Avians are interesting. I thought Avians sucked? I wonder what personality those Avians are using...
Can Cats' Halfers hang in there? They all appear to have high nw/a, and tanking an emerald is painful for any chain attempt against them.

Avians problem is mostly raw numbers and sustain. At duke/prince avian/cleric have pretty solid opa and the cleric keeps them in there even with an emerald. That said, off is dropping and not being retrained, whereas the orc's don't actually lose any off normally. We opted for a bit less anon'ing than normal to transfer some of that honor, that means some orc elites die but also decreases avian bonuses.

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Originally Posted by Elurin

Avians problem is mostly raw numbers and sustain. At duke/prince avian/cleric have pretty solid opa and the cleric keeps them in there even with an emerald. That said, off is dropping and not being retrained, whereas the orc's don't actually lose any off normally. We opted for a bit less anon'ing than normal to transfer some of that honor, that means some orc elites die but also decreases avian bonuses.

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The problem of raw numbers and sustain is exactly why no one that wars long wars runs them.

If cats faery are really untouched, they can definitely fight back. Furthermore with the dragon advantage, I think it is a matter of time legacy start crumbling down.

What are cat faery personality? Are the 4 elves and 2 halfer in legacy ub as well?

Wars like this are stupid, FS and cats run pretty much the same setup. They can war forever, even tho beeing down huge acers. Need old raze back or everyone gonna run similar setup next age, and that will be super lame.

I'm the first to agree NoseBlood. Sillflogger expressed it well in the next age suggestion. Wars comes down to stamina in keeping up army in army out and number of T/M's instead of strategy, it's becoming really boring to war in this game anymore. The problem is the extent of changes this would require, as you would need to balance T/M's with decreasing attacker's sustain, and the devs lack game understanding to be able to do this even if they had the time.

On the bright side for Legacy they also have a lot of peasants on their elves/halfers that now started to grow. Unfortunately this growth makes them even less able to deal with our faes, and the avians off keep's decreasing..

avians are clerics.
faery are mystics

agreed with Elurin's above post in regards to warring meta-game

This war looked like exactly how FS beats Stoners, just on a bigger scale. I think Cats has a much solid setup compares to FS with more balance attacking line up n t/ms. When Stoners messed up their war with FS, it is because of their initial hostility strategy n declaration wave. In Legacy case, if they dont hit the right target at the right time, soon they will crumble.

Soo activity trumps strategy?

Edit: I love Cats threads because they arent afraid to talk strat in public.

Wars like this are stupid, because they involve more than just consuming as many acres as possible and thinking you've attained a victory?..

GL Legacy, so far its a fun war :)