POT calling Kettle black, ever heard of that one?
Except Kettle's never cheated, of course.
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No need for that kind of tone. I'm not exactly going to read through the entirety of your voluminous postings everywhere just to figure that out. If you can't even accept a little friendly advice without getting snippy, perhaps you're right and you should stay where you are.
Why should VT2 heeds your advice?
VT2 already makes it clear that he is not going to make the kd join the charts earlier.
You are just contradicting yourself, before you even post, please have the basic forum courtesy to even read through so that you wont need to repeat whatever is already mentioned.
This prevents unnecessary misunderstandings, and that is the way how forums work. Not posting repeated stuff.
I didn't ask for him to listen to my advice, and there's no reason to act in the manner in which he did. This matter was not related to most of what was being discussed in this thread, and I'm not about to go waste my time sifting through six pages of extraneous information just to see so. My skimming didn't reveal any indication he had responded as such. Vt2 is free to ignore me instead of acting like an ass. I'm free to ignore your ridiculous notions of courtesy coming from an obvious forum troll.
yeah, I hope both sides stay in. I'm personally loving the drama...
and VT2 didn't even understand the difference between charts and skill, so he can't complain so much that ANYONE is offering advice, especially someone as wise as striker073... as I also read the many pages and found that, in the end, VT2 didn't, nay, COULDN'T discern between the two.
regardless of top50 charts and top50 warrers, VT wouldn't be spamming his mouth if he weren't speaking so soon in the war, as this is not a war even NEAR its end.
as Morgan so fitfully put it... VT2's KD is "running out of juice" and may see that the end is nothing like he wishes.
good luck to both sides, and stop the flaming, it gets you nowhere :)
[edit] also, Cheese, calm down, STFU and GTFO if you want to challenge anyone's intelligence in this thread please, as its obvious that VT2 opened himself to anything upon creating it. kthxbai. :)
Ill probably talk more then VT2 if i was in his situation. Hats off to Sully for getting into dragon range !!! It must be part of his kingdom strategy so they could "destroy" VT2 even more.
.... again this stupid ego war ? lol
dammm ..
** Summary from (18:38) **
&& Total Attacks Made: 68 (3,953 acres)
&& -- Traditional March: 62 (3,953 acres)
&& -- Failed Attacks: 6 (8.8% failure)
!!! Total Attacks Suffered: 64 (4,053 acres)
!!! -- Traditional March: 56 (4,053 acres)
!!! -- Failed Attacks: 8 (12.5% failure)
$$ Aid packets sent: 55
** This Kingdom (18:38) Gains/Losses **
Overall Losses: -100 acres.
** Enemy Kingdom (19:18) Gains/Losses **
Overall Gains: 100 acres.
Attacks: 64 made / 68 suffered
lol not bad not bad.
and sully's kingdom sent a dragon at VT2 (pretty quick one too :D)
this just gets more and more interesting
Look at all of the failed attacks. I've seen ghettos fail a smaller % of attacks.
lol seriously what is up with the failed attacks?
this war is starting to heat up. sully's kd is over 4 mil again lol
The failed attacks could be fog checks, if they didng have an available mage to MV fog. Looking at papers and so on doesnt give the full gauge of a war. And once again number of uniques and land exchanged is a minor gauge of the war. Other factors are involved to see who is really winning. SO keep it going fellas and out strategize eachother.
Sully's kingdom doesn't have dwarves. Also, I'd be very surprised that if they couldn't cast MV in a kingdom that is almost entirely DE.
The war summary was from Vt2's kingdom hence the 8 bounces in. And Vt2 does have dwrves, that could explain their bounces coming in. As for Vt2's kingdom , some ppl forget mon bonus and sully has a few gnomers, that have town watch which mess people up at times.
my old kd bounces more than those two combined :p
anyway the amount of bounces are not really the important thing. the important thing is sully's kingdom is actually using one of the advantage they have -- income. its the first right thing they've done since the start of war
lets see how this one plays out. but remember if VT2 withdraw with +acre its still a loss. altho theres no shame in that, it's probably the right thing to do unless VT2 wants to bet that sully's monarch have IQ lower than 50 and will make some astonishing mistake that can somehow allow VT2 to win
Id take the acres and run away laughing with a huge smile imo. But I guess they have a squabble to the end or til someone is decimated and wd's or never does. Whatever, I just wanna see how far this really goes.
i didn't read the whole thread, but...
up for a possible rematch VT2? we were the EoA war if you dont remember
we just got out of our second war so it wont be immediately, if at all depending on our size..
i havent been here in a while and dont know where you are soo you can pm me.
This is pure hilarity.
nvm location is posted up there -_-, your alot bigger then us atm at least acre wise. so no go =(
Btw i thought Elves were so incredibly weak, i see you guys have a bunch of elves this time around, your even one.
and Sullys kd looks pretty messed up.. bunch of guys over 2k acres bunch under 500..
and the provs at 2k acres.. only 4 attacks a min time?? where are the quads/triples massacres/razes? (mainly massacres) when your that big you shouldn't be hitting for land waste of time.
It's obvious, VT2 is a NUB!!!!! Therefore Sully is winning, and so on.
They are just dragging it along from pride, they couldn't handle giving up to VT2, because he's a "nub". Or rather, the KING wont give up, I dont think that some of the "400 acres" provinces are having much fun. And now it seems that the largest prov in Sully:KD is starting to bottom feed.
Like I said; Hilarity.
I cant wait till Sully speaks here again. Its a lose/lose for him now anyways. Better start changing your name around here, your humilation factor is up there with Vine's now. Unless you have a thicker skin them him..............
They have a retarded mute as their king.
He doesn't seem to understand that he's only making it worse by refusing to surrender.
Sully's been completeley humbled and crushed, and will never, ever bother me again after this.
If they decide to make this less worth our time, I'll have no choice but to pay them back by making the rest of the age a living hell for them.
Stupid ghettos can all go die.
Congratulations - you've made me see the merits of having an auto-surrender feature added, plus a whole new war-system.
In one hour after posting the above thing, I received six messages in-game, from kings and queens who are laughing at Sully's ghettoness.
Gee, I don't think anyone actually likes him anymore, and I don't think his kingdom will ever have another war again, either.
Rumors spread fast, and it's going to take them around 900 years to fix their kingdom.
That is very noobish from you VT. You both accepted the challenge, you didn't set time limits, so I'd expect that, who is in no shape to win that challenge would surrender. At this time you both can still win it, and to tell you the truth, I don't see you as the winner as the situation stands now, unless they play it very badly. It's not uncommon that good wars last for a week or two so yapping about "rest of the age" is a bit soon.
On the "less worth of our time" that's another noobish thing. That was a public challenge for prooving one of you is better than the other, so it can't be about time, gains or anything.
The only thing that you can talk about, is if you won or lost the war at the end. I'll consider the war won or lost when one of the kingdoms will not be able to turn the tides. As things stand now, both still can win if they are able to play their cards well.
The fact that you talk about if it's worth or not your time, shows me that your kingdom is in deep problem, and you don't know how to say that you will surrender, so you started searching for noobie reasons for your loss.
That will make you look like Catwalk, with his famous "Strategical Withdraw" theory. I see that, in fact it's not much of a difference between you and him then.
Why? Because you didn't won in less time than your kingdom is determined enough to fight them? Well then, you lost and better withdraw, showing us that you're only the talk without the action, neither the ambition to carry out the action.
Also, again... who are you to say they lost?
The fact that they don't talk to you is understandable, I wouldn't talk to you either until the end of the war. Talk is cheap. Now, let's see the action.
Sullys kd could easily win this now if they only choose right strat to follow...
Guess what, wofly? I didn't even care to read your post.
No, halfling - they can't.
There's now way for them to magically reverse the 5k acres they've given us to a gain for them, or take away the 250k networth we've grown, or take back the honor we've leeched from them.
I don't cheat, by your own definition. We haven't used account information for personal advantage, you specifically said that anyone who runs a multi without personal gain doesn't cheat, he merely breaks the rules.
Why do you presume to judge others and insist that your style of the playing is the only respectable one? You're rude and uninteresting.
That isn't my theory at all. I recall Ballers being hailed as winners after withdrawing from Brute Force with sizable gains (under the old system with both surrender and withdrawal). Claiming victory in a war where you lose acres and honour is silly. It may interest you to know that we haven't done any hit'n'run for quite some time now, as it's not an interesting way to play. But the rules currently favour it.Quote:
That will make you look like Catwalk, with his famous "Strategical Withdraw" theory. I see that, in fact it's not much of a difference between you and him then.
Because our style of play is the only one that's been legal for all these years, catty, unlike yours.
No, far from it. Playing as a team and requiring players to follow orders has been legal all along.
Vietnam won the war, but it cost them a lot.
Like a ghetto fighting someone good in this game, and the good kingdom deciding to withdraw.
They'd have gained a lot from it, but they'd not be the official winners, since the first person who withdraws loses.
me look at vt2 for next wave .... lol
bah too small
Im not in any of the 2 kingdom or has an grudges against any of them . I dont know how much of a noob VT is but im sure Sully is a pretty big one. Bragging about how he can destroy VT's kingdom before it even started. He was like what? 1.3 mil bigger then them? and after how many days of war he's in dragon range? or lost like 700k NW?
Please, true sully's kingdom can win , but because of what? Because he started out like 40% bigger then someone and decided to drag it out, not because he was superior strategticly or anything. Because he was purely bigger. They shouldnt even have to turn the tide when he was the one issue the challenging, mouthing off way before hand, had the size advantage.
If he didnt think he lost, sully would be here mouthing off a long time ago. Him keeping silence does not mean he all of a sudden just decide not to talk. Its because he's humiliated.
Either way , whoever WD, VT won.
Lol, I don't believe that, you wouldn't be VT. It's just that you don't have reply, because you know I'm right. You wouldn't give an answer like that, if you woudn't have read it.
Aye! That was noobish from Sully...
That doesn't matter. Since VT accepted the challenge, nothing like size, NW, war readyness, pumpedness or how many acres was taken in the first X days matters. None of that, neither any other thing, except only one: who destroys/owns/murders/rapes the other completely?
When one of them will not be able to fight back, the winner will be seen.
That might be true, all depends on Sully's character.
That's just a big LOL. He will only truly win (and that is true for Sully's Kd too) if the others are obliterated.
its still possible. we've done it many times. sometimes its intentional to trick ppl into thinking they are winning and loot honor until they realize (i dont think this is the case here), and a few other times its due to mistakes we made earlier and we make up for them later in war
nobody can deny that VT2 is WINNING, but he hasnt won yet, and sully's kingdom is by no means crushed. yes the rate they are weakening is far faster than VT2's kd, but because of the huge nw advantage they started out with they still have some fight left. in fact if u ONLY look at the situation now, their kd is in far better position than VT2's with several unbreakable provs and far superior nwpa on same land (they had that since the beginning of war). the only thing stopping them from winning is their own stupidity. and as unlikely as it is for them to suddenly get smart, that possibility should not be counted out
a friendly advice to VT2 is to keep ur head cool and still take this thing seriously. also dont **** talk too much because its not time to celebrate just yet. sully made the mistake of **** talking too early and got silenced, while VT2 is right along track of the same route
This is at least entertaining to keep track of while I'm collecting bonuses.
we should broad cast every war VT2 has so entertaining