why do people keep explaining things to vines. well just go ahead anyway it entertains us.
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why do people keep explaining things to vines. well just go ahead anyway it entertains us.
Because vines is most likely the worst person to give advice in the history of the game, and everyone but the complete n00bs know it???
I think vines deserves a chance, its ok vines, go ahead and teach us how to play the game. Also can u explain to me again about why i should have more farms than TG just cuz lower farms dont produce as good of food which causes my armies to dislike me and efficiency dies?
epic thread lol
Why should have have more farms the tgs. I teach people how to play the way I do. I always have more tgs than farms if I'm playing attacker. My builds always give me an edge during game play. My strategies are just far better they give a very noticeable edge over the standard strategys. In my strategy works best with a team with everyone having their own role.
Can u explain this thing called the edge to me please? And farms are indeed more useful than TGs since TGs promote violence and farms promote healthy eating. You are the one who taught me this and now u are leaving? and im not playing attacker, i am playing eater, so i will have more farms Vines, the Forum Addict
you want more farms than tgs or forts because there is a thing called busheldefence.
if you have more than 100 bushels per acre each 1k bushels will give you 0.05% extra defence. this is a feature not many players know and this is why you sometimes bounce because you didn't calculate bushel defence.
other than GBP kds always hand out tons of bushels to build up a bank because it is a cheap way to temporarily increase defence while protection wears off. it is hard to keep a high bushel defence because of high amount of rot which is why it is not used that common as a regular province by people who know
i hope this answers your questions.
trekdrop you forgot to login to your vines account before posting that!
trek... Thank you so much for sharing that knowledge. I can't wait to go tell my Kingdom about this piece of information!
lmao, lmao and again lmao
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Originally Posted by trekdrop
Thats one for the books
This is the strategy I was going to use against the guy that wanted to face me. This is a province two days out of protection. Because one of the terms is 7 days well I would have less homes because I would have less time to build up my military. This province for the most part is built up.
The Province of V (##:##)
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Server: Genesis #20
Utopian Date: April 3rd
RL Date: March 26th, 2010 (2:00 GMT)
Ruler Name: Lord Top Notch the Warrior
Personality & Race: The Warrior, Dwarf
Land: 1,030 Acres
Money: 1,129,899gc (21,024gc daily income)
Food: 1,542,137 bushels
Runes: 65,119 runes
Population: 27,291 citizens (26.50 per Acre)
Peasants: 9,161 (123% Building Efficiency)
Trade Balance: 0gc
Military Eff. with Stance: 144.46% off. / 129.32% def.
Soldiers: 0 (61.9% estimated draft rate)
Warriors: 0
Axemen: 8,500 (54,960 defense)
Berserkers: 6,582 (66,561 offense / 34,046 defense)
War-Horses: 1,328 (up to 1,918 additional offense)
Prisoners: 0
Total Modified Offense: 68,479 (66.48 per Acre)
Practical (100% elites): 68,479 (66.48 per Acre)
Total Modified Defense: 89,006 (86.41 per Acre)
Practical (0% elites): 54,960 (53.36 per Acre)
Thieves: 1,810 (1.76 per Acre / 100% Stealth)
Wizards: 1,238 (1.20 per Acre / 69% Mana)
Buildings: 0gc to build, 608gc to raze
Away bonus: 45,805gc (12h) / 137,415gc (20h)
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Military Intelligence on V (##:##)
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Server: Genesis #20
Ruler & Race: Lord Top Notch, Dwarf.
** Summary **
Non-Peasants: 67%
Efficiency (SoM): 144.5% off., 129.3% def., 106% raw
Net Defense at Home (from Utopia): 54,960
Modified Attack points (calculated): 68,496
Modified Defense points (calculated): 88,995
** Standing Army (At Home) **
Axemen: 8,500 (54,953 defense)
** Armies #2/#3/#4/#5 (Back in 7:23 hours) **
Berserkers: 6,582 (66,577 offense / 34,042 defense)
War Horses: 1,328 (1,919 offense)
Total Attack points: 68,496
** Troops in Training **
Axemen: 1,645 (10,635 defense)
Next 12 hours: 86 88 87 87 87 87 87 86 87 87 88 86...
Berserkers: 400 (4,046 offense / 2,069 defense)
Next 12 hours: 21 21 22 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21 21...
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Buildings Report of V (##:##)
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Server: Genesis #20
Ruler Name: Lord Top Notch
Personality: The Warrior
Race: Dwarf
Building Efficiency: 123.1%
Kingdom Stance: Normal
1. Homes: 307 (29.8%) + 52 in progress (+5%)
2. Farms: 100 (9.7%)
3. Training Grounds: 100 (9.7%)
4. Barracks: 0 (0%) + 100 in progress (+9.7%)
5. Forts: 100 (9.7%)
6. Guard Stations: 0 (0%) + 59 in progress (+5.7%)
7. Guilds: 102 (9.9%)
8. Towers: 50 (4.9%)
9. Stables: 60 (5.8%)
Total Land: 1,030 Acres (79.5% built)
In Progress: 211 Acres (20.5%)
** Effects Summary (Available Buildings Only) **
1. +3,070 maximum population, +100% birth rate
2. Produce 10,771 bushels (13,464 with FL)
3. +16.19% offense bonus
4. -0% attack time
5. +16.19% defense bonus
6. -0% losses when attacked
7. Training about 2.51 wizards per hour
8. Produce 923 runes per hour
9. Produce 74 horses/hour, hold 3,600 horses
** Effects Summary (Including Future Buildings) **
1. +3,590 maximum population, +100% birth rate
4. -16.19% attack time
6. -13.29% losses when attacked
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this post really just proves to me that you are a bad player vines. i was reserving judgement before but his has some what i would think are noob mistakes.
Why would you have unbuilt land 2 days OOP especially since you are a dwarf, ITS FREE!
Also you are going to be stole blind 1.7 thieves per acre and no watchtowers?
This almost seems like a cheap and ****ty imitation of the build I asked advice for.
In conclusion, This is just plain sad.
terrible dwarf...
1) no hosps
2) no banks (how long did it take you to get those elites? even in gen your econ wont be in a good shape if you get hit more than once)
3) if it wasnt for gen off bonus, your OPA would suck (~57-58 opa) and you have a total of 15% of buildings dedicated to offense... should be over 20% with a 7/3 elite
4) with only 1.2 wpa, your biggest asset (fog) will be MV'ed far too easily
5) lack of WT's is only bad in war/hostile =)
Welcome to the trolling nubery that is vines. Just leave him be and he will go away.
Food: 1,542,137 bushels
The hidden key that makes vines homes strat work. imagine the amount of busheldefence vines has with this prov. noone in range can hit him!
Is this guy for real?Quote:
Food: 1,542,137 bushels
The hidden key that makes vines homes strat work. imagine the amount of busheldefence vines has with this prov. noone in range can hit him!
Epic off you got there vines...
1030 * 100 = 103000 bushels
1542137 - 103000 = 1439137 extra bushels
1439137 / 1000 * 0.05 = 71.96% hidden mod busheldefence
really guys & gals that is a lot of extra mods
*points to thread*
tttt to even ask such a question. Of course I've got what it takes, vines the biggest noob ever
Hey DHaran, I think vines stole your strat when you kicked his ass last time.
nuh uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
oh... I mean vines came up with that all on his own
The reason I went with this strategy is because the 7 day rule. What he was going to try to do was build up a huge military so I would but up both a high def and high off of the size of army we would have with in 7 days. And if you want to bring up Dharan's Dwarf you can bring up that thread you will see that this dwarf is far better in every way. This dwar would able to double that dwarf.
Blip that land was built up. I razed it for more homes this will make my BE go back to over 130%. And the barracks and ggs are just part of the build. Blip think about how much military I have built up and in training. If I had unbuilt land that mean I would have gc income and that means I would have less army train/training due to lack of funds. However that is not the case. Also keep in mind this is a one on one it is not a stanard game play. In regular play I wouldn't be caught dead using dwarf.
Greenie you have to keep in my that these numbers are misleading because the dwarf has such high mods. And angel seem gave out the wrong number. This province was putting out over 74opa and without the gen bonus it would be around 65opa. As I said before this is a 7 day strategy. He wanted to play a 7 day strategy so this is what I was going to use.
vines... gen is no longer up from what i have seen. so I don't know how you got that. Anyways, when gen is back up, i will 1vs1 with you, with a 2 week grace period after protection ends to be ready by. That is a total of 17 days of getting ready. Neither prov is allowed to grow past 1.5k acres, to make this fun. What say you?
Damn, now i have to wait 3 days to get a reply.
just stop waiting and move on with ur life, Vines the great will never show up
and also i think Vines shoule be laid off of, just because he has weird strategies and is easy to fk around with doesnt mean a post should be specially put up for him, VT2
lol i say vines is deadmeat
I dont have a life... 80yr old man in a retirement home. Nothing better to do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Turtle Man
In response to the title of this thread, a definitive no.
Now there is an honest person!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bored
khedrei I thought he was the guy that wanted to go head to head. Dharan is a chicken-sh*t. I'll still go down with it. But khedrei we all know it don't want to. No one really wants to because person know they have a good chance of losing. And myself I'm putting my efforts in building a kingdom.
Does that mean we should start calling you 'king' vines?
I wonder who will be the 24 followers of Vines.
You guys are boring
some top rank kd should just give vines leadership for a single war and he can run his amazing strat and that kd woud own all other sks.
Vines... since your other opponent hasn't shown up for a while, I will challenge you. We have to wait for the gen age to start(whenever that might be), but it would be a good learning experience for me to 1vs1 you.
You want to know who they will be? Okay I will tell you. They will be the best players in the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Avenger
I will no longer be the best player in the game for we will be equals, with no equals. (Don't you just love the way I have with words)
Elixer any terms you want?
I own vines.
1) the name vines is lame. paper cuts vines, scissors cuts vines, rock crushes vines.
so basically you fail at rock paper scissors and therefore life.
You state that the reason you can not place well in the game is because you can not find good enough players, one of the talents the game requires is being socially adept enough to make friends / have people want to do as you say. Talking to you is like talking to some 14 year old know it all, probably because your a 17 year old know it all. (don't you love my way with words)
lol